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            <title>Comment #1 by amc89</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 06:38:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Hormones and antibiotics<p>Hormones and antibiotics being given to livestock in such large quantities is so incredibly inhumane and unhealthy and state and local governments should definitely be allowed to ban these practices. Ideally the federal government would ban this like some other nations in Europe have but unfortunately the USDA is too beholden to the factory farming industry. &nbsp;<p>
Some good news is that some states like New York are considering bans on live poultry markets. For more news on efforts to combat factory farming visit:<br>
<a href="http://www.HumaneEating.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.HumaneEating.org </a></br></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Hormones and antibiotics<p>Hormones and antibiotics being given to livestock in such large quantities is so incredibly inhumane and unhealthy and state and local governments should definitely be allowed to ban these practices. Ideally the federal government would ban this like some other nations in Europe have but unfortunately the USDA is too beholden to the factory farming industry. &nbsp;<p>
Some good news is that some states like New York are considering bans on live poultry markets. For more news on efforts to combat factory farming visit:<br>
<a href="http://www.HumaneEating.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.HumaneEating.org </a></br></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by JMG</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:41:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>A big city congressman weighs in<p>Earl Blumenauer of the People's Republic of Portland (OR) is blogging on the farm bill this week.<p>
<a href="http://tableforone.tpmcafe.com/blog/tableforone/2007/jun/04/a_food_and_farm_bill_of_rights" rel="nofollow">http://tableforone.tpmcafe.com/blog/tableforone/2007/jun/ ...<p>
I especially appreciate that he calls heavily subsidized corn ethanol a "fools game."<p>
Like the saying about war and generals, food policy is far too important to be left entirely to the rural congresscritters. &nbsp;

<p>Save the world:  Reduce greenhouse gas emissions 5% annually.</p></p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>A big city congressman weighs in<p>Earl Blumenauer of the People's Republic of Portland (OR) is blogging on the farm bill this week.<p>
<a href="http://tableforone.tpmcafe.com/blog/tableforone/2007/jun/04/a_food_and_farm_bill_of_rights" rel="nofollow">http://tableforone.tpmcafe.com/blog/tableforone/2007/jun/ ...<p>
I especially appreciate that he calls heavily subsidized corn ethanol a "fools game."<p>
Like the saying about war and generals, food policy is far too important to be left entirely to the rural congresscritters. &nbsp;

<p>Save the world:  Reduce greenhouse gas emissions 5% annually.</p></p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by meander</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:20:10 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Previous preemptions</strong></p><p>One example that I am sure about is privacy protection for consumers. &nbsp;California (led by State legislator Shelia Kuhl, I think) passed strong protections against privacy theft by banks. &nbsp;The legislation would have required all mailing lists and information sharing to be "opt in" instead of "opt out," for example. &nbsp;The GOP Congress responded by disallowing states from passing their own privacy regulations.</p><p>
There might have been state credit card regulations that have also been preempted, perhaps regulations limiting interest rates to something like 20% per year (which is far too low for credit card companies).<br>
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				<p><strong>Previous preemptions</strong></p><p>One example that I am sure about is privacy protection for consumers. &nbsp;California (led by State legislator Shelia Kuhl, I think) passed strong protections against privacy theft by banks. &nbsp;The legislation would have required all mailing lists and information sharing to be "opt in" instead of "opt out," for example. &nbsp;The GOP Congress responded by disallowing states from passing their own privacy regulations.</p><p>
There might have been state credit card regulations that have also been preempted, perhaps regulations limiting interest rates to something like 20% per year (which is far too low for credit card companies).<br>
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            <title>Comment #4 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:16:07 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>hormones, and live chicken markets</strong></p><p>Thanks, AMC, for adding these examples. &nbsp;They illustrate how crucially important it is for us, as moral agents, to be free to legislate against certain abuses.

<p>Chickens are our cousins!
So are other sensitive animals!
Enough is enough!
No more factory farms!</p></p>
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				<p><strong>hormones, and live chicken markets</strong></p><p>Thanks, AMC, for adding these examples. &nbsp;They illustrate how crucially important it is for us, as moral agents, to be free to legislate against certain abuses.

<p>Chickens are our cousins!
So are other sensitive animals!
Enough is enough!
No more factory farms!</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by GreyFlcn</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/democracy-food-and-the-farm-bill/</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:07:02 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I heard one part of the bill</strong></p><p>I heard one part of the bill would basically remove the states rights to enforce "Organic".</p><p>
Or maybe it was to water it down to meaninglessness.</p><p>
Either way, bad mojo.</p>
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				<p><strong>I heard one part of the bill</strong></p><p>I heard one part of the bill would basically remove the states rights to enforce "Organic".</p><p>
Or maybe it was to water it down to meaninglessness.</p><p>
Either way, bad mojo.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by SustainableGreen</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:13:34 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>&quot;Pre-emptive Preambles&quot;</strong></p><p>Hey, all:</p><p>
First time I heard about this threatening troubling language was either the Federal Medicare Bill (another so-called "REFORM" law), or a law on medical policy for Big Pharma (another egregious bit of cooperation between business, bureaucracy, and politics = Corporate Oligarchy). &nbsp;In this case it states that 'no one has any legal recourse in a case of incompetency or criminal act once this law is passed'; i.e., 'SCREW YOU!' </p><p>
That's your Corporate Oligarchy in action. &nbsp;So it is used to screw states and individuals as they please. &nbsp;<b>How the Hell did we let things get this far?</b></p><p>
David<br>
Sustainability For Life</p><p>
Messages done with sustainable energy, with Wind and Sun!</br></p>
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				<p><strong>&quot;Pre-emptive Preambles&quot;</strong></p><p>Hey, all:</p><p>
First time I heard about this threatening troubling language was either the Federal Medicare Bill (another so-called "REFORM" law), or a law on medical policy for Big Pharma (another egregious bit of cooperation between business, bureaucracy, and politics = Corporate Oligarchy). &nbsp;In this case it states that 'no one has any legal recourse in a case of incompetency or criminal act once this law is passed'; i.e., 'SCREW YOU!' </p><p>
That's your Corporate Oligarchy in action. &nbsp;So it is used to screw states and individuals as they please. &nbsp;<b>How the Hell did we let things get this far?</b></p><p>
David<br>
Sustainability For Life</p><p>
Messages done with sustainable energy, with Wind and Sun!</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by SustainableGreen</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:31:28 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Still part of the problem</strong></p><p>Hey, all:</p><p>
There are several reasons why the way is not yet clear to have democratic (that's a small "d") legislation possessing transparency and accountability. &nbsp;One is simply the margin with which Democrats control Congress, a margin that is quite small, so political wheeling and dealing still prevail to get votes. &nbsp;Another reason is the ridiculous riders that bills are burdened with, the addons and pet projects that are unrelated to the subject of the bill, but from my viewpoint the core problem is elsewhere.</p><p>
Regardless of which party is in control, each of the elected officials has an army of lobbyists representing the Corporate Oligarchy assaulting him/her. &nbsp;And all the lobbyists are tied eventually to the contributors who make it possible for those running for office to pay for campaign ads and activities. &nbsp; Finally, while there are few in office who are clearly there due to fraudulent, unverifiable election results, this potential still looms in the backs of the minds of many people around the country.</p><p>
In order to really have straightforward honest democratic legislation that addresses people's concerns, we have to first address these three things: Campaign Finance, Lobbying, and Election Fairness and Verification. &nbsp;True reform of these laws will help reduce the power of the Corporate Oligarchy, and give us back the legislative process. &nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>
'Pre-emptive' language should be struck from all the legislation, but it seems a favorite of bidness interests, so it will be a struggle. &nbsp;</p><p>
David<br>
Sustainability For Life</p><p>
Messages done with sustainable energy, with Wind and Sun!</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Still part of the problem</strong></p><p>Hey, all:</p><p>
There are several reasons why the way is not yet clear to have democratic (that's a small "d") legislation possessing transparency and accountability. &nbsp;One is simply the margin with which Democrats control Congress, a margin that is quite small, so political wheeling and dealing still prevail to get votes. &nbsp;Another reason is the ridiculous riders that bills are burdened with, the addons and pet projects that are unrelated to the subject of the bill, but from my viewpoint the core problem is elsewhere.</p><p>
Regardless of which party is in control, each of the elected officials has an army of lobbyists representing the Corporate Oligarchy assaulting him/her. &nbsp;And all the lobbyists are tied eventually to the contributors who make it possible for those running for office to pay for campaign ads and activities. &nbsp; Finally, while there are few in office who are clearly there due to fraudulent, unverifiable election results, this potential still looms in the backs of the minds of many people around the country.</p><p>
In order to really have straightforward honest democratic legislation that addresses people's concerns, we have to first address these three things: Campaign Finance, Lobbying, and Election Fairness and Verification. &nbsp;True reform of these laws will help reduce the power of the Corporate Oligarchy, and give us back the legislative process. &nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>
'Pre-emptive' language should be struck from all the legislation, but it seems a favorite of bidness interests, so it will be a struggle. &nbsp;</p><p>
David<br>
Sustainability For Life</p><p>
Messages done with sustainable energy, with Wind and Sun!</br></p>
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