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            <title>Comment #1 by Lindsay</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 07:03:49 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Oh, my.</strong></p><p>Jeez, Grist: dissolving corpses and coffin couches in one day? Kind of morbid for a Friday.</p><p>
Alkaline hydrolysis grosses me out, but I'd consider it if I knew it was environmentally sound. </p><p>
My biggest question concerns what happens when this human reduction is poured down the drain in large quantities. First of all, how much liquid would an average-sized human corpse generate? </p><p>
Oh yeah, and somehow, I don't believe that a "coffee-colored liquid [with] the consistency of motor oil and a strong ammonia smell" can be "safely poured down the drain."</p><p>
Research, please.</p>
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				<p><strong>Oh, my.</strong></p><p>Jeez, Grist: dissolving corpses and coffin couches in one day? Kind of morbid for a Friday.</p><p>
Alkaline hydrolysis grosses me out, but I'd consider it if I knew it was environmentally sound. </p><p>
My biggest question concerns what happens when this human reduction is poured down the drain in large quantities. First of all, how much liquid would an average-sized human corpse generate? </p><p>
Oh yeah, and somehow, I don't believe that a "coffee-colored liquid [with] the consistency of motor oil and a strong ammonia smell" can be "safely poured down the drain."</p><p>
Research, please.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Pangolin</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 08:08:23 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Waste not, want not...</strong></p><p>Using the thermal depolymerization process your body could be converted into several gallons of bio-diesel, some nitrate rich liquid fertilizer and bone meal. </p><p>
Just think, instead of polluting a chunk of ground you could fuel a tractor and provide fertilizer for a small bed of greens. You could even be a few rose bushes and a drive to your local museum. </p><p>
Why waste it? </p>
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				<p><strong>Waste not, want not...</strong></p><p>Using the thermal depolymerization process your body could be converted into several gallons of bio-diesel, some nitrate rich liquid fertilizer and bone meal. </p><p>
Just think, instead of polluting a chunk of ground you could fuel a tractor and provide fertilizer for a small bed of greens. You could even be a few rose bushes and a drive to your local museum. </p><p>
Why waste it? </p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by TheSSG</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 08:52:56 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Green Cemetery</strong></p><p>Why not just get buried at a Green Cemetery where you are wrapped in canvas and buried with a piece of wood over you (to keep animals out)?</p><p>
There was one where a sapling was planted over your corpse, and the decomposition would help fuel its growth.</p><p>
Many of these cemeteries are also reforesting projects, or conservation projects.<br>
No heat, no "coffee like" ooze...seems easier...and better for the planet...</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Green Cemetery</strong></p><p>Why not just get buried at a Green Cemetery where you are wrapped in canvas and buried with a piece of wood over you (to keep animals out)?</p><p>
There was one where a sapling was planted over your corpse, and the decomposition would help fuel its growth.</p><p>
Many of these cemeteries are also reforesting projects, or conservation projects.<br>
No heat, no "coffee like" ooze...seems easier...and better for the planet...</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 15:49:11 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>&quot;What would the dear departed ...</strong></p><p>... have greenly wished?"</p><p>
This subject has in fact been discussed before.</p><p>
The involvement of chemicals and high heat, and all the other effort, should not strike anyone as being particularly enviro-friendly, however much of an improvement it may be over a steel casket.</p><p>
I like very much the ideas of Pangolin, and TheSSG; though I have metaphysical objections to the latter's phrasing, "YOU are wrapped," and "over YOU." &nbsp;But, let us be clear, YOU are no longer contained in that bit of primate hide any longer.</p><p>
I myself would like to be got rid of by disposal on a beach at low tide, one with lots of crabs, mollusks, echinoderms, pecking birds and strong-beaked fishies. &nbsp;But my executors would have to be cagey, to avoid all kinds of legal complications ...</p>
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				<p><strong>&quot;What would the dear departed ...</strong></p><p>... have greenly wished?"</p><p>
This subject has in fact been discussed before.</p><p>
The involvement of chemicals and high heat, and all the other effort, should not strike anyone as being particularly enviro-friendly, however much of an improvement it may be over a steel casket.</p><p>
I like very much the ideas of Pangolin, and TheSSG; though I have metaphysical objections to the latter's phrasing, "YOU are wrapped," and "over YOU." &nbsp;But, let us be clear, YOU are no longer contained in that bit of primate hide any longer.</p><p>
I myself would like to be got rid of by disposal on a beach at low tide, one with lots of crabs, mollusks, echinoderms, pecking birds and strong-beaked fishies. &nbsp;But my executors would have to be cagey, to avoid all kinds of legal complications ...</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by bravedeer</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 22:23:34 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Where are the editors?</strong></p><p>This is a ridiculous article and anyone with half a brain should be able to see how a process that requires chemicals and heat is not environmental.</p><p>
The environmental choice is to be buried, not in a coffin of course.</p>
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				<p><strong>Where are the editors?</strong></p><p>This is a ridiculous article and anyone with half a brain should be able to see how a process that requires chemicals and heat is not environmental.</p><p>
The environmental choice is to be buried, not in a coffin of course.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by javaearth</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 00:31:35 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I am truely green.</strong></p><p>I am 31, and this is my death plan. </p><p>
When I all old and bitter (well, actually I am bitter now, but anyway). I want to have party. Eat all the foods I love, play my fav. music, and just have a laugh. Dance a bit, laugh at all the be left in some remote mountain place, pop a few pills and die. My body will be eaten by animals. Now you can't be greener than that! </p><p>
Now if I am off'd in some accident, I want to be cermated. - But I am really hoping for the mountain theme! </p>
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				<p><strong>I am truely green.</strong></p><p>I am 31, and this is my death plan. </p><p>
When I all old and bitter (well, actually I am bitter now, but anyway). I want to have party. Eat all the foods I love, play my fav. music, and just have a laugh. Dance a bit, laugh at all the be left in some remote mountain place, pop a few pills and die. My body will be eaten by animals. Now you can't be greener than that! </p><p>
Now if I am off'd in some accident, I want to be cermated. - But I am really hoping for the mountain theme! </p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by jennann429</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 01:32:42 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Maybe because it was Friday...</strong></p><p>...the editors overlooked the blatant oxymoron that is this article. &nbsp;Thoughts of a lovely Mother's Day weekend distracted them from their duties of posting articles to guide the rest of us on our green journeys. &nbsp;I can only hope that's the reasoning behind this one... every now &amp; then they just aren't paying attention to what they're doing.<br>
I'm with TheSSG on this one, let your wordly body feed the earth from which it came! &nbsp;Why add chemicals to turn it into goo when it'll do that all on its own with a little help from Mother Nature?</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Maybe because it was Friday...</strong></p><p>...the editors overlooked the blatant oxymoron that is this article. &nbsp;Thoughts of a lovely Mother's Day weekend distracted them from their duties of posting articles to guide the rest of us on our green journeys. &nbsp;I can only hope that's the reasoning behind this one... every now &amp; then they just aren't paying attention to what they're doing.<br>
I'm with TheSSG on this one, let your wordly body feed the earth from which it came! &nbsp;Why add chemicals to turn it into goo when it'll do that all on its own with a little help from Mother Nature?</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by earlysnows</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 04:46:38 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>green burial</strong></p><p>how about placing the corpse on a raised platform in a green space open to the sun? &nbsp;birds are very efficient at recycling and it somehow seems honourable to face nature after death instead of being preserved and put in a hole.</p>
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				<p><strong>green burial</strong></p><p>how about placing the corpse on a raised platform in a green space open to the sun? &nbsp;birds are very efficient at recycling and it somehow seems honourable to face nature after death instead of being preserved and put in a hole.</p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by Tasermons Partner</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 05:01:43 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Reef death...</strong></p><p>...they just opened an underwater cemetary off the coast of Florida. &nbsp;The mix ashen remains in with cement headstones, all uniquely shaped to mimc natural rock formations. &nbsp;In a short amount of time, coral begins to grow over the headstones, enhancing the reef system.</p><p>
Innovative, I think. &nbsp;It also makes for a good dive spot.</p>
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				<p><strong>Reef death...</strong></p><p>...they just opened an underwater cemetary off the coast of Florida. &nbsp;The mix ashen remains in with cement headstones, all uniquely shaped to mimc natural rock formations. &nbsp;In a short amount of time, coral begins to grow over the headstones, enhancing the reef system.</p><p>
Innovative, I think. &nbsp;It also makes for a good dive spot.</p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by jeanh</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 06:52:40 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>my goodness!</strong></p><p>This method sounds neither respectful to the deceased nor environmentally friendly. &nbsp;</p><p>
Natural decomposition has been the age old way to complete the cycle of life -- this returns nutrients to the environment and in my opinion is much more peaceful way to be remembered by your loved ones than being dissolved in caustic liquid.</p><p>
I have doubts as to how environmentally friendly this process really is. &nbsp;It would take significant amts of energy to heat large volumes of lye with a person in it and the sheer volumes of lye dumped down the drain would be damaging for the environment in itself. &nbsp;I work in a biology laboratory, and we are not allowed to dump any &nbsp;volume (not to mention gallons and gallons) of extremely basic or acidic compounds down the drain without neutralizing the liquid first. &nbsp;</p><p>
Isn't it just easier and more humane to just let nature take its course?<br>
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				<p><strong>my goodness!</strong></p><p>This method sounds neither respectful to the deceased nor environmentally friendly. &nbsp;</p><p>
Natural decomposition has been the age old way to complete the cycle of life -- this returns nutrients to the environment and in my opinion is much more peaceful way to be remembered by your loved ones than being dissolved in caustic liquid.</p><p>
I have doubts as to how environmentally friendly this process really is. &nbsp;It would take significant amts of energy to heat large volumes of lye with a person in it and the sheer volumes of lye dumped down the drain would be damaging for the environment in itself. &nbsp;I work in a biology laboratory, and we are not allowed to dump any &nbsp;volume (not to mention gallons and gallons) of extremely basic or acidic compounds down the drain without neutralizing the liquid first. &nbsp;</p><p>
Isn't it just easier and more humane to just let nature take its course?<br>
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            <title>Comment #11 by turanga leela</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 07:33:34 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>feeding animals</strong></p><p>with my remains. i have always liked this idea.</p>
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				<p><strong>feeding animals</strong></p><p>with my remains. i have always liked this idea.</p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by Tasermons Partner</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 08:28:26 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Feeding animals...</strong></p><p>...good idea, but probably not feasible, due to health concerns.</p><p>
May work with worms, maggots, and other decomposers, though.</p>
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				<p><strong>Feeding animals...</strong></p><p>...good idea, but probably not feasible, due to health concerns.</p><p>
May work with worms, maggots, and other decomposers, though.</p>
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