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            <title>Comment #1 by Erik Hoffner</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 07:22:06 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>activism<p>Rebecca Solnit hits it pretty square with this. It echoes a lot of what we're seeing in the grassroots activism world of late: unexpected and unconventional alliances between enviros and those formerly perceived as having no stake in a green world are not only effective, they can be fun, and even when such collaborations don't work, the least they do is build community and understanding. Which is a pretty great outome.<p>
James McMurtry is one quasi-country singer I think Gristmillers ought to check out if unfamiliar. True, he's a liberal from Austin and does write occasional songs like one, but most of his tunes hove to a rare middle america point of view. 'No more Buffalo' '60 Acres' and 'Choctaw Bingo' come to mind: <p>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMd04FVyVRg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMd04FVyVRg<p>
Erik

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				<p><strong>activism<p>Rebecca Solnit hits it pretty square with this. It echoes a lot of what we're seeing in the grassroots activism world of late: unexpected and unconventional alliances between enviros and those formerly perceived as having no stake in a green world are not only effective, they can be fun, and even when such collaborations don't work, the least they do is build community and understanding. Which is a pretty great outome.<p>
James McMurtry is one quasi-country singer I think Gristmillers ought to check out if unfamiliar. True, he's a liberal from Austin and does write occasional songs like one, but most of his tunes hove to a rare middle america point of view. 'No more Buffalo' '60 Acres' and 'Choctaw Bingo' come to mind: <p>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMd04FVyVRg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMd04FVyVRg<p>
Erik

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            <title>Comment #2 by willa</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:48:37 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Americana</strong></p><p>Y'all, somebody beat you to the punch on this one. &nbsp;There's a whole genre of music that sounds like country but isn't populated by Republican climate-change deniers: &nbsp;Americana. &nbsp;Most of the country music put out by the overpackaged "big stars" is written by Americana folks. &nbsp;</p><p>
It's just the "front of the house" part of the industry that's on the other side, and I think they are largely responsible for the fact that so many country music lovers think we are against everything they stand for. &nbsp;When it comes right down to it, the Americana singers and songwriters are obviously plugged into the needs of the country audience (or they couldn't keep writing well-received songs for them), but the audience is being sold a very different (and unnecessary) spin.</p><p>
It just isn't true that you can't be a green redneck. &nbsp;And I say all this as someone who won a big ol' belt buckle with my name (and my horse's name) engraved on it as a kid in 4-H. &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>Americana</strong></p><p>Y'all, somebody beat you to the punch on this one. &nbsp;There's a whole genre of music that sounds like country but isn't populated by Republican climate-change deniers: &nbsp;Americana. &nbsp;Most of the country music put out by the overpackaged "big stars" is written by Americana folks. &nbsp;</p><p>
It's just the "front of the house" part of the industry that's on the other side, and I think they are largely responsible for the fact that so many country music lovers think we are against everything they stand for. &nbsp;When it comes right down to it, the Americana singers and songwriters are obviously plugged into the needs of the country audience (or they couldn't keep writing well-received songs for them), but the audience is being sold a very different (and unnecessary) spin.</p><p>
It just isn't true that you can't be a green redneck. &nbsp;And I say all this as someone who won a big ol' belt buckle with my name (and my horse's name) engraved on it as a kid in 4-H. &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:21:34 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Culture war</strong></p><p>One word: &nbsp;Merle (Hagard)</p><p>
Real country music. &nbsp;No culture war. &nbsp;He's anti-bushwar. Just check out Merle's politics. &nbsp;Then call him a "dirty hippy", to his face. &nbsp;Hehey.

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				<p><strong>Culture war</strong></p><p>One word: &nbsp;Merle (Hagard)</p><p>
Real country music. &nbsp;No culture war. &nbsp;He's anti-bushwar. Just check out Merle's politics. &nbsp;Then call him a "dirty hippy", to his face. &nbsp;Hehey.

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            <title>Comment #4 by Pompey Road</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:19:55 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Gone Country</strong></p><p>Mountain Top Removal Song</p><p>
Well just blow up a mountain<br>
Blow up a hill<br>
Do a big ol valley fill<br>
Don't do no tally<br>
Don't figure up the cost<br>
Don't take no heed<br>
Of what we just lost</p><p>
Fire on the mountain<br>
Fire in the hole<br>
Blow up a mountain<br>
Got to get that coal<br>
Don't look back<br>
Don't look closer<br>
&nbsp;Push it over the hill<br>
With a big ol Dozer</p><p>
Well just blow up a mountain<br>
Then we'll rally<br>
Take a big ol Dozer<br>
And push it in a valley<br>
We ain't foolish<br>
We ain't mean<br>
Just kinda selfish<br>
And we don't like green</p><p>
Flat land, flat land we can't stop<br>
Got to blow off a mountain top<br>
Take a big ol dozer push it over the hill<br>
That's what we call a valley fill<br>
We'll keep pushin till we run out of steam<br>
Cover up a valley cover up a stream<br>
We don't care about our young un's<br>
Lite the fuse, keep the dozer runnin<br>
Who needs a mountain, who needs a hill<br>
All we need is the dollar bill</p><p>
We blow up a mountain just to get that coal<br>
We sold our mineral and we sold our soul<br>
Grab green back dollars till we get our fill<br>
Don't need a mountain don't need a hill.<br>
Well go tell uncle Bill and old aunt Sally<br>
Got to move were gonna fill your valley</p><p>
Well I guess you think it's all insane<br>
Why we blow up your domain<br>
You think its silly, you think its sad<br>
But the money's all good if the water's all bad<br>
We just don't need your approval<br>
To do a mountain top removal<br>
We'll keep fill'n till the valley's all gone<br>
Blow up the mountains then we'll move on<br>
We'll it don't take no concentration<br>
That's what we do, a coal corporation

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				<p><strong>Gone Country</strong></p><p>Mountain Top Removal Song</p><p>
Well just blow up a mountain<br>
Blow up a hill<br>
Do a big ol valley fill<br>
Don't do no tally<br>
Don't figure up the cost<br>
Don't take no heed<br>
Of what we just lost</p><p>
Fire on the mountain<br>
Fire in the hole<br>
Blow up a mountain<br>
Got to get that coal<br>
Don't look back<br>
Don't look closer<br>
&nbsp;Push it over the hill<br>
With a big ol Dozer</p><p>
Well just blow up a mountain<br>
Then we'll rally<br>
Take a big ol Dozer<br>
And push it in a valley<br>
We ain't foolish<br>
We ain't mean<br>
Just kinda selfish<br>
And we don't like green</p><p>
Flat land, flat land we can't stop<br>
Got to blow off a mountain top<br>
Take a big ol dozer push it over the hill<br>
That's what we call a valley fill<br>
We'll keep pushin till we run out of steam<br>
Cover up a valley cover up a stream<br>
We don't care about our young un's<br>
Lite the fuse, keep the dozer runnin<br>
Who needs a mountain, who needs a hill<br>
All we need is the dollar bill</p><p>
We blow up a mountain just to get that coal<br>
We sold our mineral and we sold our soul<br>
Grab green back dollars till we get our fill<br>
Don't need a mountain don't need a hill.<br>
Well go tell uncle Bill and old aunt Sally<br>
Got to move were gonna fill your valley</p><p>
Well I guess you think it's all insane<br>
Why we blow up your domain<br>
You think its silly, you think its sad<br>
But the money's all good if the water's all bad<br>
We just don't need your approval<br>
To do a mountain top removal<br>
We'll keep fill'n till the valley's all gone<br>
Blow up the mountains then we'll move on<br>
We'll it don't take no concentration<br>
That's what we do, a coal corporation

<p>The eons of time and nature was good to us down here. It was not until we become civilized that destroying our habitat become fathomable or fashionable.</p></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by redwing</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:25:10 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>what we need</strong></p><p>What the good ole boys really need is an electric/ solar / hydrogen powered 4 wheeler. Just think how easy it would be to get to deer camp without having to worry bout gass. The electric moter would be nice for hunting, not nearly as loud as the gasoline motors. Just make sure it comes in real tree camo, with a Dale Earnheart licence plate. If it had a built in solar beer cooler that would be even better. Do they make c02 friendly bullets? I guess those are called arrows...</p>
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				<p><strong>what we need</strong></p><p>What the good ole boys really need is an electric/ solar / hydrogen powered 4 wheeler. Just think how easy it would be to get to deer camp without having to worry bout gass. The electric moter would be nice for hunting, not nearly as loud as the gasoline motors. Just make sure it comes in real tree camo, with a Dale Earnheart licence plate. If it had a built in solar beer cooler that would be even better. Do they make c02 friendly bullets? I guess those are called arrows...</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:36:52 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Got 'em already Red<p>The army's hybrid hummer. &nbsp;Built some 10 years ago now?<p>
Here's the latest 600 hp version, neeehaaaww!! &nbsp;<p>
<a href="http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/10/20/biodiesel-turbine-super-capacitor-series-hybrid-hummer-60/" rel="nofollow">http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/10/20/biodiesel-turbine ...

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				<p><strong>Got 'em already Red<p>The army's hybrid hummer. &nbsp;Built some 10 years ago now?<p>
Here's the latest 600 hp version, neeehaaaww!! &nbsp;<p>
<a href="http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/10/20/biodiesel-turbine-super-capacitor-series-hybrid-hummer-60/" rel="nofollow">http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/10/20/biodiesel-turbine ...

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:45:26 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>The original<p><a href="http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,14632,Soldiertech_Shadow,,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,14632,Soldiertech_S ...<p>
Look for a "Sqidbillies" green episode real soon featuring this vehicle. &nbsp;<p>
<a href="http://www.adultswim.com/shows/squidbillies/" rel="nofollow">http://www.adultswim.com/shows/squidbillies/

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				<p><strong>The original<p><a href="http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,14632,Soldiertech_Shadow,,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,14632,Soldiertech_S ...<p>
Look for a "Sqidbillies" green episode real soon featuring this vehicle. &nbsp;<p>
<a href="http://www.adultswim.com/shows/squidbillies/" rel="nofollow">http://www.adultswim.com/shows/squidbillies/

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></a></p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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