Great rundown on the latest regarding the enemy of the human race.

One thing this calls to mind is, what does the skyrocketing costs of coal plant construction do to the average price/kilowatt-hour of new coal fired electricity? I believe the conventional wisdom puts it at $.05-$.10 to the consumer. Doesn't this need upward revision?

Co2 got em on the ropes,tell them how they get that coal in Appalachia. Better yet you need to get some national spots showing mountian top removal.

The eons of time and nature was good to us down here. It was not until we become civilized that destroying our habitat become fathomable or fashionable.

While we won't see the unilateral shutdown of existing plants, if no one will fund new ones, energy companies will be forced to build more renewable power plants... or go out of business.

I love it when people catch on to the fact that they have the power to change things with their wallets!

If you continue to do what you've always done you'll continue to get what you've always got. - Yogi Berra

coal is FAR from dead and gone in the rest of the world - literally thousands of prospecting permits have been granted in South Africa in the last six months to help 'ease the electricity crisis', and Mozambique is opening giant new mines in the Zambezi valley etc.

Whiskerfish in Africa

Cleveland City Council went through the motions of reconsidering its approval of the AMP deal, but in truth it was just a smokescreen to hide behind. Council, the mayor, and Cleveland Public Power (CPP) were determined to ram it through. I was part of an effort to derail it, but we would've spent our time more effectively talking to Lake Erie.

Behind the scenes were fears that if the city did not join the deal, CPP would be driven out of business by cost per kilowatt hours, because it does not enjoy a monopoly in the city of cleveland, but must compete with its old foes in the private power industry.

Cleveland is so battered and beseiged that it reminds you of a third world country that thinks that it cannot risk anything but the same old, same old it has depended on in the past. Call it the conservatism of the oppressed.  

In the end, Cleveland will get taken to the cleaners by this deal, and the environmental reputation of the Jackson administration and individual councilpeople who like to portray themselves as environmentalists, has been reduced to rubble.

This says nothing of what will happen to the beseiged residents of Meigs County, Ohio who are having to watch as their country becomes what used to be called in the 1970s, a "sacrifice zone." Good luck to Elisa Young founder of Meigs Citizen Action Now, who should be nominated for a Goldman prize. (David Roberts you should get Grist to do an interview of her (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) //= 0; i=i-1){ if (l[i].substring(0, 1) == ' ') output += "&#"+unescape(l[i].substring(1))+";"; else output += unescape(l[i]); } document.getElementById('eeEncEmail_nWDxwiXLQ7').innerHTML = output; //]]> or 740-949-2175)

Sorry we could not stop it, but it is kind of hard to have a conversation with people who have already made up their minds before the conversation even starts. What was the last time any of you conversed with a brick wall?

Randy Cunningham

Randy Cunningham

Coal may have a hard time for a few years, but it knows that the demand will build up while the supply will increase only slightly.    Then the coal plants will be built, but quickly when we have elec. supply problems.