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            <title>Comment #1 by Andrew Dessler</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:03:42 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Update<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/11/the-sky-is-falling/" rel="nofollow">Realclimate has a related entry on this. &nbsp;They point out that the observed cooling of the stratosphere is inconsistent with increased solar output --- but is consistent with increased greenhouse gases. &nbsp;Take a look.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Update<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/11/the-sky-is-falling/" rel="nofollow">Realclimate has a related entry on this. &nbsp;They point out that the observed cooling of the stratosphere is inconsistent with increased solar output --- but is consistent with increased greenhouse gases. &nbsp;Take a look.</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Schoneveld</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 11:53:12 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>If it was the sun indeed</strong></p><p>Ok, now a question that burdens my environmental conscience. Let's assume that after a number of years there is irrefutable scientific proof - or scientific consensus, if you like - that global warming is not caused by humans but a natural phenomenon, should we try to interfere with nature or manipulate our climate in order to "save" humanity and those ecosystems that are now said to be in grave danger?</p>
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				<p><strong>If it was the sun indeed</strong></p><p>Ok, now a question that burdens my environmental conscience. Let's assume that after a number of years there is irrefutable scientific proof - or scientific consensus, if you like - that global warming is not caused by humans but a natural phenomenon, should we try to interfere with nature or manipulate our climate in order to "save" humanity and those ecosystems that are now said to be in grave danger?</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Andrew Dessler</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:37:36 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>A last resort</strong></p><p>If we ever get to the point where the climate is out of control, either because it's the Sun or because mitigation efforts have failed, then I think geoengineering (e.g., manipulating the climate) is the last page of the play book. &nbsp;In other words, we should turn to it after everything else fails.</p>
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				<p><strong>A last resort</strong></p><p>If we ever get to the point where the climate is out of control, either because it's the Sun or because mitigation efforts have failed, then I think geoengineering (e.g., manipulating the climate) is the last page of the play book. &nbsp;In other words, we should turn to it after everything else fails.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by AarinX</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:18:16 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>different view</strong></p><p>Okay, the biggest problem in the scientific world is that when two ideas are presented as the possible reason for a problem only one can be correct. If we to look at this as a combination of many things then the answer can be revealed. Combine the increase of green house gasses, the slight rise in solar ouput, and earths natural history of climate change we can presume that this "global warming" is something that has happened before. In general it is something that the inhabitants of this planet have delt with and survived before.<br>
Also I do like the idea of geoengineering but many questions are raised about the potential danger it could also cause. As humans we are flawed and messing with something that has been around for millions of years can lead to catastrophic events.</br></p>
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				<p><strong>different view</strong></p><p>Okay, the biggest problem in the scientific world is that when two ideas are presented as the possible reason for a problem only one can be correct. If we to look at this as a combination of many things then the answer can be revealed. Combine the increase of green house gasses, the slight rise in solar ouput, and earths natural history of climate change we can presume that this "global warming" is something that has happened before. In general it is something that the inhabitants of this planet have delt with and survived before.<br>
Also I do like the idea of geoengineering but many questions are raised about the potential danger it could also cause. As humans we are flawed and messing with something that has been around for millions of years can lead to catastrophic events.</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by GRLCowan</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:45:07 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>One geoengineering approach clearly excels ...<p>over others, and that is the one that simply and fairly economically <a href="http://www.lanl.gov/news/releases/archive/02-028.shtml" rel="nofollow">undoes the geoengineering we already are involuntarily doing.<p>
--- G. R. L. Cowan, former hydrogen fan<br>
<a href="http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/Paper_for_11th_CHC.html" rel="nofollow">Oxygen expands around B fire, car goes</a></br></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>One geoengineering approach clearly excels ...<p>over others, and that is the one that simply and fairly economically <a href="http://www.lanl.gov/news/releases/archive/02-028.shtml" rel="nofollow">undoes the geoengineering we already are involuntarily doing.<p>
--- G. R. L. Cowan, former hydrogen fan<br>
<a href="http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/Paper_for_11th_CHC.html" rel="nofollow">Oxygen expands around B fire, car goes</a></br></p></a></p></strong></p>
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