<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Obama muses on the connection between energy/climate and our other problems]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by JMG http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/ Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:34:51 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/1 Lion's share

Obama is too smart not to know that, as William (The Voice of Spiro) Safire pointed out years ago, the Lion's Share is all of it.  

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Obama is too smart not to know that, as William (The Voice of Spiro) Safire pointed out years ago, the Lion's Share is all of it.  

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]]> Comment #2 by josullivan58 http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/ Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:39:39 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/2 Obama does in fact get it

Green is the way of the future. We enviros are right, and we'll have a president who agrees.

NY Times has endorsed Obama in an editorial including this line about McCain:

"He surrendered his standing as an independent thinker in his rush to embrace Mr. Bush's misbegotten tax policies and to abandon his leadership position on climate change"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/opinion/24fri1.html?pag ...

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Green is the way of the future. We enviros are right, and we'll have a president who agrees.

NY Times has endorsed Obama in an editorial including this line about McCain:

"He surrendered his standing as an independent thinker in his rush to embrace Mr. Bush's misbegotten tax policies and to abandon his leadership position on climate change"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/opinion/24fri1.html?pag ...

]]> Comment #3 by setb http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/ Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:19:27 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/3 Dividends

"Most of the revenue is better spent directly rewarding emission reductions."

Put away your policy hat for a minute and put on the political hat. The most important story on climate this week was what happened in Canada.

Gas has gone back down, but please try to remember the national freakout over $4 gas and how quickly people shoved aside their concerns about offshore oil drilling.    

20% will cover 20% of the increased costs on consumers and cover 20% of the voting public.

Obama has been campaigning on not raising anyone's taxes who makes under 1/4 million-- do you really think he's going to pass climate legislation in the middle of a recession before 2012 that could be flogged as a tax increase?

The only way this gets done before 2012 is through returning a huge chunk of the auction revenue, the lion's share or even 100%.

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"Most of the revenue is better spent directly rewarding emission reductions."

Put away your policy hat for a minute and put on the political hat. The most important story on climate this week was what happened in Canada.

Gas has gone back down, but please try to remember the national freakout over $4 gas and how quickly people shoved aside their concerns about offshore oil drilling.    

20% will cover 20% of the increased costs on consumers and cover 20% of the voting public.

Obama has been campaigning on not raising anyone's taxes who makes under 1/4 million-- do you really think he's going to pass climate legislation in the middle of a recession before 2012 that could be flogged as a tax increase?

The only way this gets done before 2012 is through returning a huge chunk of the auction revenue, the lion's share or even 100%.

]]> Comment #4 by David Roberts http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/ Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:26:44 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/4 Setb,

the point is, you could prevent everyone's costs from going up with far less than 100% of the revenue. You don't need that much to make it painless for the middle class -- and if reductions turn out to be as cheap as I expect, I'd bet you'll need very little.

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the point is, you could prevent everyone's costs from going up with far less than 100% of the revenue. You don't need that much to make it painless for the middle class -- and if reductions turn out to be as cheap as I expect, I'd bet you'll need very little.

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]]> Comment #5 by PJD http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/ Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:08:20 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/5 broken links

I was interested in reading the Time article, but the link doesn't seem to lead to the content.  Perhaps that could be fixed.

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I was interested in reading the Time article, but the link doesn't seem to lead to the content.  Perhaps that could be fixed.

]]> Comment #6 by David Roberts http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/ Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:29:22 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/6 PJD,

Time's blog servers were down for a while. They're back up now -- try the link again.

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Time's blog servers were down for a while. They're back up now -- try the link again.

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]]> Comment #7 by setb http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/ Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:39:18 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/correct-sir/7 That's just not true

Returning 20% will not cover everyone's increased costs- and certainly won't cover working to middle class costs.

If we go into this downplaying costs to the public, we'll be screwing ourselves.  

 

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Returning 20% will not cover everyone's increased costs- and certainly won't cover working to middle class costs.

If we go into this downplaying costs to the public, we'll be screwing ourselves.  

 

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