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            <title>Comment #1 by raphsperry</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:02:53 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Corporate shilling in your wallet</strong></p><p>My main impression from this scorecard is a picture of how narrow some "environmental" projects can be. This scorecard obviously leaves out such basic issues as corporate responsibility to workers and communities. &nbsp;Take a look at you will see Nike leading the pack in Apparel/accessories, Starbucks leading Food Services, and General Electric leading Media (through their ownership of NBC, I assume). &nbsp;Anyone concerned about Nike's union busting and race-to-the bottom sweatshop labor practices, Starbucks's destruction of local culture and small-business competitors, or GE's role as a major weapons manufacturer will see this emanation of the environmental movement discounting those concerns 100%. &nbsp;</p><p>
By their own admission, "Climate Counts" only ranked major corporations and used limited criteria based on whether these corporations measured their climate footprint, reduced it, disclosed their efforts, and supported/opposed climate change legislation. &nbsp;But that's just too narrow a criterion to put on a wallet-sized card. &nbsp;If you can only carry a few square inches of information, it shouldn't be that Starbucks is better than Wendy's -- it's far more "green" to support a local business than choose among the world's greediest corporations. &nbsp;This scorecard fails deeply, in my mind, by failing to include non-corporate, local-scaled businesses, even while putting out the slogan "how you shop and invest changes the world." &nbsp;Environmentalists should be fighting the invisibility of local business which gives mega-corporations a huge edge, even while some of us try to teach large corporations about their responsibility to protect the environment we all share. &nbsp;Honestly, this level of work would be better spent promoting coalitions of local businesses rather than even the best practices of the best transnationals.</p><p>
I'm going with a Van Jones-esque idea here that so see real environmental progress we need to see mainstream environmental groups build a joint constituency with other progressive causes, working people's issues, and the struggle against racism because the forces of authority and corporate power will never act in the best interests of a defenseless planet, so this scorecard seems counter-productive from that perspective. &nbsp;Just by chance, I am doing some reasearch today on Transport for London, where they use the term "sustainability" consistently to refer to environmental, social and economic concerns. &nbsp;It's impressive, the way they make caring about equal opportunity and respect for workers on a par with protecting the environment and running the business. From that perspective, this scorecard is not even 1/3 of the way there.<br>


<p>Raphael Sperry</p></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Corporate shilling in your wallet</strong></p><p>My main impression from this scorecard is a picture of how narrow some "environmental" projects can be. This scorecard obviously leaves out such basic issues as corporate responsibility to workers and communities. &nbsp;Take a look at you will see Nike leading the pack in Apparel/accessories, Starbucks leading Food Services, and General Electric leading Media (through their ownership of NBC, I assume). &nbsp;Anyone concerned about Nike's union busting and race-to-the bottom sweatshop labor practices, Starbucks's destruction of local culture and small-business competitors, or GE's role as a major weapons manufacturer will see this emanation of the environmental movement discounting those concerns 100%. &nbsp;</p><p>
By their own admission, "Climate Counts" only ranked major corporations and used limited criteria based on whether these corporations measured their climate footprint, reduced it, disclosed their efforts, and supported/opposed climate change legislation. &nbsp;But that's just too narrow a criterion to put on a wallet-sized card. &nbsp;If you can only carry a few square inches of information, it shouldn't be that Starbucks is better than Wendy's -- it's far more "green" to support a local business than choose among the world's greediest corporations. &nbsp;This scorecard fails deeply, in my mind, by failing to include non-corporate, local-scaled businesses, even while putting out the slogan "how you shop and invest changes the world." &nbsp;Environmentalists should be fighting the invisibility of local business which gives mega-corporations a huge edge, even while some of us try to teach large corporations about their responsibility to protect the environment we all share. &nbsp;Honestly, this level of work would be better spent promoting coalitions of local businesses rather than even the best practices of the best transnationals.</p><p>
I'm going with a Van Jones-esque idea here that so see real environmental progress we need to see mainstream environmental groups build a joint constituency with other progressive causes, working people's issues, and the struggle against racism because the forces of authority and corporate power will never act in the best interests of a defenseless planet, so this scorecard seems counter-productive from that perspective. &nbsp;Just by chance, I am doing some reasearch today on Transport for London, where they use the term "sustainability" consistently to refer to environmental, social and economic concerns. &nbsp;It's impressive, the way they make caring about equal opportunity and respect for workers on a par with protecting the environment and running the business. From that perspective, this scorecard is not even 1/3 of the way there.<br>


<p>Raphael Sperry</p></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:45:28 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Joel makes a good point,<p>How do citizens find the chameleon hinding in all the greenwashing?<p>
"...they're kind of cynical about what companies are doing or what they say they are doing because there are no standards and there's never been an official way to measure that."

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Joel makes a good point,<p>How do citizens find the chameleon hinding in all the greenwashing?<p>
"...they're kind of cynical about what companies are doing or what they say they are doing because there are no standards and there's never been an official way to measure that."

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by mtvyfan</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/corporations-ranked-on-climate-action/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:38:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Corporate Cliimate Change</strong></p><p>I think this new idea is awesome! I really thank Climate Counts for providing this valuable information to people whether they use it or not. With all of the food security scares finally making it to the public, we are going to see a shift in the public's out look on some of the crap that is going into conventional food choice now a days. I am really hoping that GMOs are going to get really big press now on how dangerous they are and why we need to have them labeled and avoided. The mass experiment must end! I also thank Morgan Spurlock for both his book "Don't Eat This Book" and his wonderfully revealing movie "Super Size Me" This man has been the pioneer and put his own health on the line to point out how unhealthy and down right dangerous fast food is to your health. Thanks again Climate Counts and Grist for spreading the word! </p>
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				<p><strong>Corporate Cliimate Change</strong></p><p>I think this new idea is awesome! I really thank Climate Counts for providing this valuable information to people whether they use it or not. With all of the food security scares finally making it to the public, we are going to see a shift in the public's out look on some of the crap that is going into conventional food choice now a days. I am really hoping that GMOs are going to get really big press now on how dangerous they are and why we need to have them labeled and avoided. The mass experiment must end! I also thank Morgan Spurlock for both his book "Don't Eat This Book" and his wonderfully revealing movie "Super Size Me" This man has been the pioneer and put his own health on the line to point out how unhealthy and down right dangerous fast food is to your health. Thanks again Climate Counts and Grist for spreading the word! </p>
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