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            <title>Comment #1 by Matt G</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:30:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Maybe</strong></p><p>We should also plant more shade trees.</p>
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				<p><strong>Maybe</strong></p><p>We should also plant more shade trees.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by tomrobey</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:24:01 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Sunroof</strong></p><p>Sunroofs work very well at reducing the need for A/C. &nbsp;The heat rises when parked. &nbsp;When moving the sunroof increases circulation. &nbsp;I have never turned on the A/C in my present vehicle.</p>
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				<p><strong>Sunroof</strong></p><p>Sunroofs work very well at reducing the need for A/C. &nbsp;The heat rises when parked. &nbsp;When moving the sunroof increases circulation. &nbsp;I have never turned on the A/C in my present vehicle.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:25:54 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Convertibles</strong></p><p><br>
We blast the A/C in enclosed cars.</p><p>
Yet, a convertible is a status symbol.</p><p>
Doesn't make sense...

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				<p><strong>Convertibles</strong></p><p><br>
We blast the A/C in enclosed cars.</p><p>
Yet, a convertible is a status symbol.</p><p>
Doesn't make sense...

<p>J. Bailo
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            <title>Comment #4 by racc</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:38:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Painting the Titanic</strong></p><p>This is a bit like painting the Titanic. </p><p>
Far better to spend time and effort on creating transportation choices for people so they are not forces to drive everywhere.</p>
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				<p><strong>Painting the Titanic</strong></p><p>This is a bit like painting the Titanic. </p><p>
Far better to spend time and effort on creating transportation choices for people so they are not forces to drive everywhere.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by LGT</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:57:09 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Don't be surprised ...<p>"[Don't be surprised, though, if the auto industry experts suggested that all car rooftops should be silvered, and that it'd be a great service to the planet to buy more cars!]"<p>
<a href="http://feww.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/only-zero-emissions-would-do/#comment-639" rel="nofollow">http://feww.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/only-zero-emissions- ...</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Don't be surprised ...<p>"[Don't be surprised, though, if the auto industry experts suggested that all car rooftops should be silvered, and that it'd be a great service to the planet to buy more cars!]"<p>
<a href="http://feww.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/only-zero-emissions-would-do/#comment-639" rel="nofollow">http://feww.wordpress.com/2007/10/15/only-zero-emissions- ...</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by human power</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:06:03 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Driven to Extinction</strong></p><p>If we want to have any chance of leaving a living planet for the 22nd century, Americans must reduce their emissions by 80-90% in the next fifteen years. Cars just can't fit into the picture here, except as executioner. We must choose between the apparent comfort of driving or life itself. The message of this article is that we will not choose life. </p><p>
By the way, when one is on a bike it does not feel nearly as hot as it does in a car, at least at 115F (typical hot summer day in Sacramento).</p>
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				<p><strong>Driven to Extinction</strong></p><p>If we want to have any chance of leaving a living planet for the 22nd century, Americans must reduce their emissions by 80-90% in the next fifteen years. Cars just can't fit into the picture here, except as executioner. We must choose between the apparent comfort of driving or life itself. The message of this article is that we will not choose life. </p><p>
By the way, when one is on a bike it does not feel nearly as hot as it does in a car, at least at 115F (typical hot summer day in Sacramento).</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by bigTom</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:42:53 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I don't see compliance.</strong></p><p>&nbsp; Similar things can be accomplished by color choice, those portable reflectors, leaving windows cracked, or using the PV powered window blowers. I can't get the other two drivers in my family to do any of that. I don't know what it will take to get more than a few percent of the population to take such nearly painless steps.</p>
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				<p><strong>I don't see compliance.</strong></p><p>&nbsp; Similar things can be accomplished by color choice, those portable reflectors, leaving windows cracked, or using the PV powered window blowers. I can't get the other two drivers in my family to do any of that. I don't know what it will take to get more than a few percent of the population to take such nearly painless steps.</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by racc</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:12:54 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>They Already Are</strong></p><p>Most of the people on the planet don't drive and never will. It is just that not many of the most of people are Americans.</p>
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				<p><strong>They Already Are</strong></p><p>Most of the people on the planet don't drive and never will. It is just that not many of the most of people are Americans.</p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by Sephyrave</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:10:01 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>That's ingenuinity, but will it be affordable?<p>In a developing country where tinted glasses are already considered a luxury for a car, will these special paints have their place in these countries? Developing countries are emitting more CO2 than developed countries, so even though this technology is technically feasible, it will be impractical for residents in impoverished countries to buy a car with such specially coated paintings.<p>
<a href="http://environe.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://environe.blogspot.com</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>That's ingenuinity, but will it be affordable?<p>In a developing country where tinted glasses are already considered a luxury for a car, will these special paints have their place in these countries? Developing countries are emitting more CO2 than developed countries, so even though this technology is technically feasible, it will be impractical for residents in impoverished countries to buy a car with such specially coated paintings.<p>
<a href="http://environe.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://environe.blogspot.com</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by Pangolin</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:28:29 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Hot weather habits<p>Here in the Northern Sacramento Valley one circles the block looking for shaded parking from May 1st to November 1st. Front window sunshades are de rigeur and a few fanatics put tyvek covers on thier cars during the day. <p>
I'm seeing increased use of solar panels to cover parking areas but there are millions of acres still available. HINT, HINT. Paradoxically one of the PV shaded parking lots is at the brewery; you can park there but you might not be able to drive home. (it's actually staff parking)<p>
As far as biking in the heat it works far better than biking in the cold. The rider has to be very carefull to allow for a cool down immediately upon stopping because all that heat seems to catch up to you. <p>
Also we freeze out water bottle solid. Two, one-liter bottles are enough for mixed interior/exterior work and four are needed for &nbsp;a full day outside. <p>
I'm starting to see parasols used in the summer. An elegant habit I'd like to encourage. <p>
The bus is always air conditioned.

<p><a href="http://putcarbonback.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Put  the Carbon Back</a></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Hot weather habits<p>Here in the Northern Sacramento Valley one circles the block looking for shaded parking from May 1st to November 1st. Front window sunshades are de rigeur and a few fanatics put tyvek covers on thier cars during the day. <p>
I'm seeing increased use of solar panels to cover parking areas but there are millions of acres still available. HINT, HINT. Paradoxically one of the PV shaded parking lots is at the brewery; you can park there but you might not be able to drive home. (it's actually staff parking)<p>
As far as biking in the heat it works far better than biking in the cold. The rider has to be very carefull to allow for a cool down immediately upon stopping because all that heat seems to catch up to you. <p>
Also we freeze out water bottle solid. Two, one-liter bottles are enough for mixed interior/exterior work and four are needed for &nbsp;a full day outside. <p>
I'm starting to see parasols used in the summer. An elegant habit I'd like to encourage. <p>
The bus is always air conditioned.

<p><a href="http://putcarbonback.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Put  the Carbon Back</a></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by caniscandida</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:50:55 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Planting shade trees</strong></p><p>and planting mushrooms with psilocybin, are both to be recommended.</p><p>
Those hubcaps are glowing, man. &nbsp;And butterflies are emerging from the one in front; but earthworms, from the one in the rear ...

<p>Chickens deserve our true friendship!  So do fish!  So do other sentient beings!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Planting shade trees</strong></p><p>and planting mushrooms with psilocybin, are both to be recommended.</p><p>
Those hubcaps are glowing, man. &nbsp;And butterflies are emerging from the one in front; but earthworms, from the one in the rear ...

<p>Chickens deserve our true friendship!  So do fish!  So do other sentient beings!  Let us learn to be kind.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by racc</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:31:16 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Per Capita Emissions</strong></p><p>Don't get stuck on the "Developing countries are emitting more CO2 than developed countries" &nbsp;line. Of course they are. There are far more people in these countries. What really matters is per capita emissions and people in developed countries are emitting far more ghg gases than people in developing countries. </p><p>
Impoverished people are not buying cars. It is only a small percentage of people in these countries that will ever be able to have a car. Do something about what is happen in your backyard before worrying about somewhere else. Its called leadership. </p>
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				<p><strong>Per Capita Emissions</strong></p><p>Don't get stuck on the "Developing countries are emitting more CO2 than developed countries" &nbsp;line. Of course they are. There are far more people in these countries. What really matters is per capita emissions and people in developed countries are emitting far more ghg gases than people in developing countries. </p><p>
Impoverished people are not buying cars. It is only a small percentage of people in these countries that will ever be able to have a car. Do something about what is happen in your backyard before worrying about somewhere else. Its called leadership. </p>
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