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            <title>Comment #1 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:37:19 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Can't Tell You Much About Porsche</strong></p><p><br>
I was just duct taping a few holes in the trunk of my newly purchased 1988 Mazda 626. &nbsp; Seems like the rain was kicking up and getting into the side well and the passenger side carpet was pooling water. &nbsp; Might have to go get some Scotch Auto Body Repair tape at Schucks later.</p><p>
Anyway, I was looking at mileage on my 626 and it's quite amazing. &nbsp;24 average is listed and that's what I get exactly but I do all stop and go driving. &nbsp;I haven't road tripped it on the highway yet. </p><p>
Still, it's quite amazing as a 20 year old car is still competitive (and it's a big small car...almost luxury in its day).</p><p>
What was that about Porsches?</p><p>
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				<p><strong>Can't Tell You Much About Porsche</strong></p><p><br>
I was just duct taping a few holes in the trunk of my newly purchased 1988 Mazda 626. &nbsp; Seems like the rain was kicking up and getting into the side well and the passenger side carpet was pooling water. &nbsp; Might have to go get some Scotch Auto Body Repair tape at Schucks later.</p><p>
Anyway, I was looking at mileage on my 626 and it's quite amazing. &nbsp;24 average is listed and that's what I get exactly but I do all stop and go driving. &nbsp;I haven't road tripped it on the highway yet. </p><p>
Still, it's quite amazing as a 20 year old car is still competitive (and it's a big small car...almost luxury in its day).</p><p>
What was that about Porsches?</p><p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by morganmghee</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:51:03 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Not all about Mileage<p>I think it has more to do with the efficiency of the thing, not just the mileage. &nbsp;A lot has been achieved since your car was put together in 1988. I followed the link to find out how much you would be paying, they didn't have an exact match as you might imagine, I suppose they don't have a big vintage asian car market. Anyhoo, by using a combination of the model and your stated mileage of about 24 they say your co2 number is 284 and according to the chart you would be paying.<p>
Pre-2001 with engine over 3,000cc &#163;25 per day<br>
<a href="http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes/roadsandpublicspaces/7411.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes/roadsa ...<p>
Now imagine it's tripled. &nbsp;Pretty effective, but only as long as the proceeds go towards pulic transport right away, otherwise most of them won't be able to afford to drive into town and the existing public transit will be smashed full!<p>
But that's short term, long term is high demand for low c02 cars. Manufacturers don't even have to look outside the box for this one... Get On It!</p></p></a></br></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Not all about Mileage<p>I think it has more to do with the efficiency of the thing, not just the mileage. &nbsp;A lot has been achieved since your car was put together in 1988. I followed the link to find out how much you would be paying, they didn't have an exact match as you might imagine, I suppose they don't have a big vintage asian car market. Anyhoo, by using a combination of the model and your stated mileage of about 24 they say your co2 number is 284 and according to the chart you would be paying.<p>
Pre-2001 with engine over 3,000cc &#163;25 per day<br>
<a href="http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes/roadsandpublicspaces/7411.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes/roadsa ...<p>
Now imagine it's tripled. &nbsp;Pretty effective, but only as long as the proceeds go towards pulic transport right away, otherwise most of them won't be able to afford to drive into town and the existing public transit will be smashed full!<p>
But that's short term, long term is high demand for low c02 cars. Manufacturers don't even have to look outside the box for this one... Get On It!</p></p></a></br></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by usandthem</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:34:59 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Bye bye</strong></p><p>Maybe it is time for Porche to go bye bye if it can't get it's act together and work for a safer environment.Maybe alot of other autos should smell the pollution and go bye bye.<br>
&nbsp;I am so ready for mass transit to emerge as a(pun intended)moving force of people and goods.I like the idea of pedestrian city centers and even neighborhoods,when possible.My country's use of mass transit(U.S.)is incredibly sloppy,excepting the cities.The cities could use some major upgrades and that is happening,slowly.Our railroad system is a bloody mess.When a railroad company acquires another line.The first thing that they do is tear out one of the two tracks,if that is the case,so that they can charge higher rates to other railroads who want to use their lines.Wasteful!!It's all about the benjamins! </br></p>
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				<p><strong>Bye bye</strong></p><p>Maybe it is time for Porche to go bye bye if it can't get it's act together and work for a safer environment.Maybe alot of other autos should smell the pollution and go bye bye.<br>
&nbsp;I am so ready for mass transit to emerge as a(pun intended)moving force of people and goods.I like the idea of pedestrian city centers and even neighborhoods,when possible.My country's use of mass transit(U.S.)is incredibly sloppy,excepting the cities.The cities could use some major upgrades and that is happening,slowly.Our railroad system is a bloody mess.When a railroad company acquires another line.The first thing that they do is tear out one of the two tracks,if that is the case,so that they can charge higher rates to other railroads who want to use their lines.Wasteful!!It's all about the benjamins! </br></p>
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