<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for It’s also the road to ‘energy security’]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by David Roberts http://www.grist.org/article/coal-is-the-enemy-of-the-human-race1/ Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:43:17 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/coal-is-the-enemy-of-the-human-race1/1 However

Reason for hope:In an abrupt about-face, Burbank and several other Southern California cities are joining with the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power in abandoning plans to renew long-term contracts for coal-fired electricity from a Utah power plant.

In forsaking their largest power source, the cities will be gambling on the availability of adequate alternative energy from cleaner sources by 2027, after their current contracts with the Utah facility expire.

www.grist.org

]]> However

Reason for hope:In an abrupt about-face, Burbank and several other Southern California cities are joining with the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power in abandoning plans to renew long-term contracts for coal-fired electricity from a Utah power plant.

In forsaking their largest power source, the cities will be gambling on the availability of adequate alternative energy from cleaner sources by 2027, after their current contracts with the Utah facility expire.

www.grist.org

]]> Comment #2 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/coal-is-the-enemy-of-the-human-race1/ Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:09:22 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/coal-is-the-enemy-of-the-human-race1/2 "beautiful downtown Burbank"

"In an abrupt about-face" is one of my favorite journalistic cliche's.  You just know that blood is in the water.  How many styles of doing an about-face are there, actually?  Has anyone timed how long each of them takes?  Has any journalist ever started off with, "In a cagey about-face," or, "In a fooling-no-one about-face," or, "In a sultry, smouldering, high-heeled, strapless about-face," or, "In a lightly toe-tapping about-face that resembled nothing so much as a Strauss waltz through a Viennese ballroom"?

So anyway, substantively, have the people of Germany, Britain and even France, in an abrupt about-face, decided to go anti-green and pro-coal?  Mais, c'est incroyable!

Also, in reference to a couple of the references, I think the late-1950s term, used by President Eisenhower, "military-industrial complex," needs to be re-interpreted.  This is serious: times have changed, obviously, and we now need to know what Jerome a` Paris and others are talking about, exactly.

On Burbank, and the Southwest in general: They are an environmental catastrophe waiting to happen any day now.  We would be better off just dropping them out of the Union (Sorry, FFletcher), if it were not that we Democrats rely so heavily on the good wishes of the LA crowd.

E.g., last night on PBS here in NYC, there was a pleasant multi-artist concert honoring James Taylor, in LA.  The Dixie Chicks (whom I love, especially "Home") started off; and who of all people should have been half-time entertainment but Bill Clinton!

Chickens are our cousins! So are other sensitive animals! Enough is enough! No more factory farms!

]]> "beautiful downtown Burbank"

"In an abrupt about-face" is one of my favorite journalistic cliche's.  You just know that blood is in the water.  How many styles of doing an about-face are there, actually?  Has anyone timed how long each of them takes?  Has any journalist ever started off with, "In a cagey about-face," or, "In a fooling-no-one about-face," or, "In a sultry, smouldering, high-heeled, strapless about-face," or, "In a lightly toe-tapping about-face that resembled nothing so much as a Strauss waltz through a Viennese ballroom"?

So anyway, substantively, have the people of Germany, Britain and even France, in an abrupt about-face, decided to go anti-green and pro-coal?  Mais, c'est incroyable!

Also, in reference to a couple of the references, I think the late-1950s term, used by President Eisenhower, "military-industrial complex," needs to be re-interpreted.  This is serious: times have changed, obviously, and we now need to know what Jerome a` Paris and others are talking about, exactly.

On Burbank, and the Southwest in general: They are an environmental catastrophe waiting to happen any day now.  We would be better off just dropping them out of the Union (Sorry, FFletcher), if it were not that we Democrats rely so heavily on the good wishes of the LA crowd.

E.g., last night on PBS here in NYC, there was a pleasant multi-artist concert honoring James Taylor, in LA.  The Dixie Chicks (whom I love, especially "Home") started off; and who of all people should have been half-time entertainment but Bill Clinton!

Chickens are our cousins! So are other sensitive animals! Enough is enough! No more factory farms!

]]> Comment #3 by ffletcher http://www.grist.org/article/coal-is-the-enemy-of-the-human-race1/ Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:26:45 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/coal-is-the-enemy-of-the-human-race1/3 Perserve the Site Not the CO2

The point that we have sought in Burbank is to reduce the CO2 and other emissions at the Intermountain Power Project site while maintaining the site.  For us the project's transmission brings wind energy from Wyoming that we currently have under contract and over which we intend to bring more such energy.  Replacing coal energy with wind energy is another strategy that we believe can be incorporated as we bring on more wind energy.

The big about face that recently occurred is the alignment of all of the Intermoutain Power Project participants to conduct a significant study of how the current 2000 pounds of CO2 per megawatthour can be reduced to less than 1100 pound of CO2 per megawatthour.  Burbank called for such reduction in 2003, however, that was viewed as too expensive and unnecessary at that time.  We are very happy that we are now considering that approach.  I thank our good friends at NRDC for their efforts.

]]> Perserve the Site Not the CO2

The point that we have sought in Burbank is to reduce the CO2 and other emissions at the Intermountain Power Project site while maintaining the site.  For us the project's transmission brings wind energy from Wyoming that we currently have under contract and over which we intend to bring more such energy.  Replacing coal energy with wind energy is another strategy that we believe can be incorporated as we bring on more wind energy.

The big about face that recently occurred is the alignment of all of the Intermoutain Power Project participants to conduct a significant study of how the current 2000 pounds of CO2 per megawatthour can be reduced to less than 1100 pound of CO2 per megawatthour.  Burbank called for such reduction in 2003, however, that was viewed as too expensive and unnecessary at that time.  We are very happy that we are now considering that approach.  I thank our good friends at NRDC for their efforts.

]]>