<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for When will the conscientious burrito giant pay up for less exploitative tomatoes?]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/chipotle-grilled/ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:08:23 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/chipotle-grilled/1 Viva la liberta`!

Excellent post, Tom, on a very important issue regarding peace, justice and humanity in this republic.

"Who picked YOUR food?," asks the sign of a demonstrator shown in the Immokalee site.  We might go on to ask, "Who killed your food?," "Who brought your food to you?," "Who prepared your food for you?"  Also: "Who built your house?"  "Who made your furniture?"  "Who is sending you electric power?"  Etc.

Our decadence can be measured to be increasing, the more our ignorance of such things regarding the basic circumstances of our lives also increases.  Taking those things for granted is not a good sign.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

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Excellent post, Tom, on a very important issue regarding peace, justice and humanity in this republic.

"Who picked YOUR food?," asks the sign of a demonstrator shown in the Immokalee site.  We might go on to ask, "Who killed your food?," "Who brought your food to you?," "Who prepared your food for you?"  Also: "Who built your house?"  "Who made your furniture?"  "Who is sending you electric power?"  Etc.

Our decadence can be measured to be increasing, the more our ignorance of such things regarding the basic circumstances of our lives also increases.  Taking those things for granted is not a good sign.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> Comment #2 by Wolverine http://www.grist.org/article/chipotle-grilled/ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:23:07 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/chipotle-grilled/2 Prioritizing Issues

I fully support the farm workers to get an extra penny per pound for their tomatoes.  However, if you're implying we should patronize evil pigs like McDonald's or Burger King, you've got to be kidding!  The evils these companies cause go far beyond low pay to farm workers, and include massive environmental harms.

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I fully support the farm workers to get an extra penny per pound for their tomatoes.  However, if you're implying we should patronize evil pigs like McDonald's or Burger King, you've got to be kidding!  The evils these companies cause go far beyond low pay to farm workers, and include massive environmental harms.

]]> Comment #3 by latenac http://www.grist.org/article/chipotle-grilled/ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:16:50 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/chipotle-grilled/3 critical mistake in summary

McDonalds owns a majority stake in Chipotle. Chipotle already has a better image than McDonalds so it probably feels it can get away without paying the extra penny while the McDonald's brand needs to look like it's being a good corporate citizen. Corporations could theoretically affect big change but consistency would be the key here.

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McDonalds owns a majority stake in Chipotle. Chipotle already has a better image than McDonalds so it probably feels it can get away without paying the extra penny while the McDonald's brand needs to look like it's being a good corporate citizen. Corporations could theoretically affect big change but consistency would be the key here.

]]> Comment #4 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/chipotle-grilled/ Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:20:20 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/chipotle-grilled/4 the gay-rights complication

Another social-justice issue: A socially conservative, bigoted, rightwing group has called for a boycott of McDonald's, on the grounds that McDonald's is promoting the "homosexual agenda" by participating in the Gay Chamber of Commerce:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/03/mcdonalds-boycott/.

The boycott surely will not amount to much.  On the other hand, we may wonder whether gay people will now rush to patronize McDonald's, as a sign of grateful support.  I hope not.  Promoting gay rights in this day and age is a fine and noble thing, for which we should indeed thank McDonald's.  But they are at the same time unapologetically involved in a number of other grave injustices, against human beings and animals, so they have hardly done enough to make themselves quite lovable.

If in fact McDonald's receives an upsurge in custom from the LGBT crowd, it would only go to show how deeply boringly and depressingly "normal," in the worst sense of the word, gay people really are -- which might come as a surprise to many.  Enlightenment is a rare flickering flame indeed.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> the gay-rights complication

Another social-justice issue: A socially conservative, bigoted, rightwing group has called for a boycott of McDonald's, on the grounds that McDonald's is promoting the "homosexual agenda" by participating in the Gay Chamber of Commerce:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/03/mcdonalds-boycott/.

The boycott surely will not amount to much.  On the other hand, we may wonder whether gay people will now rush to patronize McDonald's, as a sign of grateful support.  I hope not.  Promoting gay rights in this day and age is a fine and noble thing, for which we should indeed thank McDonald's.  But they are at the same time unapologetically involved in a number of other grave injustices, against human beings and animals, so they have hardly done enough to make themselves quite lovable.

If in fact McDonald's receives an upsurge in custom from the LGBT crowd, it would only go to show how deeply boringly and depressingly "normal," in the worst sense of the word, gay people really are -- which might come as a surprise to many.  Enlightenment is a rare flickering flame indeed.

Chickens deserve our true friendship! So do fish! So do other sentient beings! Let us learn to be kind.

]]> Comment #5 by Tom Philpott http://www.grist.org/article/chipotle-grilled/ Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:58:50 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/chipotle-grilled/5 McDonald's/Chipotle

LateNC,
McDonald's used to own a stake in Chipotle, but no longer does. The two parted ways in 2006.

Victual Reality


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LateNC,
McDonald's used to own a stake in Chipotle, but no longer does. The two parted ways in 2006.

Victual Reality


]]> Comment #6 by PermieWriter http://www.grist.org/article/chipotle-grilled/ Mon, 07 Jul 2008 03:30:45 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/chipotle-grilled/6 The economics

Chipotle could make the extra $.01 for tomatoes pencil out by cutting their salt use by two-thirds. I'll be eating my burritos at Cactus until Chipotle figures out that salt is a seasoning, not a major ingredient.

Hell, if they cut their salt use by 75 percent they could kick in an extra penny for the tomato-pickers, who undoubtedly deserve the compensation.

Eat what you grow, grow what you eat

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Chipotle could make the extra $.01 for tomatoes pencil out by cutting their salt use by two-thirds. I'll be eating my burritos at Cactus until Chipotle figures out that salt is a seasoning, not a major ingredient.

Hell, if they cut their salt use by 75 percent they could kick in an extra penny for the tomato-pickers, who undoubtedly deserve the compensation.

Eat what you grow, grow what you eat

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