<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for The dirty secret behind D.C.‘s high-tech Virginia suburbs]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Borzio http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/ Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:42:54 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/1 Natural variation

Here is something interesting. From 2006 to 2007 we had a very large drop in Arctic sea ice coverage. For the current date, that difference is shown here.

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu...

This change had the warmers calling for the end of the world "even sooner than expected".

Now we have had another change in the opposite direction. Again taking the same day (today) in 2007 and comparing it to 2008 we have:

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu...

So going from 2006 to 2008 we have hardly any change at all:

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu...

Now while the drop from 2006 to 2007 was trumpeted all over the left wing media and the ecological media, the recovery from 2007 to 2008 is not mentioned at all. No agenda there, right?

]]> Natural variation

Here is something interesting. From 2006 to 2007 we had a very large drop in Arctic sea ice coverage. For the current date, that difference is shown here.

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu...

This change had the warmers calling for the end of the world "even sooner than expected".

Now we have had another change in the opposite direction. Again taking the same day (today) in 2007 and comparing it to 2008 we have:

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu...

So going from 2006 to 2008 we have hardly any change at all:

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu...

Now while the drop from 2006 to 2007 was trumpeted all over the left wing media and the ecological media, the recovery from 2007 to 2008 is not mentioned at all. No agenda there, right?

]]> Comment #2 by dirthippy http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/ Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:16:05 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/2 Dominion Wind Power

I live in Frederick, Md. While I am usually not on the side of the power companies because I am a dirty hippy at heart, I have to disagree with Mike on this one. Yes, the mid-Atlantic area is polluted, you shouldn't eat the fish from the rivers, and we are quite overcrowded. However, Dominion has been making efforts to add more wind power to its quiver. They have built bunches of wind turbines on Mount Storm, W.Va., adjacent to their power plant. They are also partnering with BP to build more wind turbines in Virginia. You can read more about their new agreement at http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS163478+21 ...

You can read more about their plans for the power from Mt. Storm on the Dominion website at http://www.poweringvirginia.com/wind.jsp.

I know that most of our power still comes from dirty coal, but at least they are working toward wind power, even if it is for their own bottom line.

]]> Dominion Wind Power

I live in Frederick, Md. While I am usually not on the side of the power companies because I am a dirty hippy at heart, I have to disagree with Mike on this one. Yes, the mid-Atlantic area is polluted, you shouldn't eat the fish from the rivers, and we are quite overcrowded. However, Dominion has been making efforts to add more wind power to its quiver. They have built bunches of wind turbines on Mount Storm, W.Va., adjacent to their power plant. They are also partnering with BP to build more wind turbines in Virginia. You can read more about their new agreement at http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS163478+21 ...

You can read more about their plans for the power from Mt. Storm on the Dominion website at http://www.poweringvirginia.com/wind.jsp.

I know that most of our power still comes from dirty coal, but at least they are working toward wind power, even if it is for their own bottom line.

]]> Comment #3 by stinkycheese http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/ Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:58:03 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/3 Re: natural variation

Borzio, this article talks about mercury poisoning and job loss and energy inefficiency in Virginia. I assume that you agree that these are all bad things. Global warming is mentioned only in passing and is not the salient point of the article. If you're going to complain about the ecological left wing media again, then you could at least answer the concerns voiced in this article along with your canned anti-AGW argument (and non-functioning links) which confuses weather with climate.

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Borzio, this article talks about mercury poisoning and job loss and energy inefficiency in Virginia. I assume that you agree that these are all bad things. Global warming is mentioned only in passing and is not the salient point of the article. If you're going to complain about the ecological left wing media again, then you could at least answer the concerns voiced in this article along with your canned anti-AGW argument (and non-functioning links) which confuses weather with climate.

]]> Comment #4 by TheGreenMiles http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/ Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:51:04 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/4 And the trolls come out to play

Wow, the first two comments are from a global warming denier and a power company apologist. Mike must be doing something right!

Join the discussion on global warming, recycling, and organic beer at The Green Miles!

]]> And the trolls come out to play

Wow, the first two comments are from a global warming denier and a power company apologist. Mike must be doing something right!

Join the discussion on global warming, recycling, and organic beer at The Green Miles!

]]> Comment #5 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/ Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:15:45 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/5 Offshore

Yes Virginia, there is plenty of fuel-free, clean energy offshore.  

The gulf stream underwater, a steady source, wind and wave above the water.  Put those high tech industrial workers on the job, they'll make a whole new revenue source for your region.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

]]> Offshore

Yes Virginia, there is plenty of fuel-free, clean energy offshore.  

The gulf stream underwater, a steady source, wind and wave above the water.  Put those high tech industrial workers on the job, they'll make a whole new revenue source for your region.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

]]> Comment #6 by evabella http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/ Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:50:26 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/6 So, NoVa voters:

How will you get this message across?

]]> So, NoVa voters:

How will you get this message across?

]]> Comment #7 by rwhiten1 http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/ Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:40:10 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/can-you-spell-c-o-a-l/7 That solar plant in Frederick....

"the outer-D.C. suburb of Frederick County, Maryland, is expanding a major solar-panel plant (owned by British Petroleum)"

A class mate of mine in my MBA program works for BP Solar and indicated, a few months back, that BP had pulled the plug on that plant in Frederick to open it somewhere else (I think China, but not certain).

It may be they have changed their mind and decided to reopen it, but I don't think so.  I will check with my class mate.

]]> That solar plant in Frederick....

"the outer-D.C. suburb of Frederick County, Maryland, is expanding a major solar-panel plant (owned by British Petroleum)"

A class mate of mine in my MBA program works for BP Solar and indicated, a few months back, that BP had pulled the plug on that plant in Frederick to open it somewhere else (I think China, but not certain).

It may be they have changed their mind and decided to reopen it, but I don't think so.  I will check with my class mate.

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