<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for California plans to cut 169 million metric tons of CO2 equivalent by 2020]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/ Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:49:25 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/1 No Coal Plants To Convert?

Other states such a Virginia are taking the smartest, faster and cheapest route -- replacing one or two old coal plants with cleaner more modern ones.

In a single stroke, they can, percentagewise, do everything that California government uses draconian measures to do.

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Other states such a Virginia are taking the smartest, faster and cheapest route -- replacing one or two old coal plants with cleaner more modern ones.

In a single stroke, they can, percentagewise, do everything that California government uses draconian measures to do.

]]> Comment #2 by Bob Wallace http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/ Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:31:34 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/2 Huh?

"-- replacing one or two old coal plants with cleaner more modern ones.

In a single stroke, they can, percentagewise, do everything that California government uses draconian measures to do."

How about showing us the math?

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"-- replacing one or two old coal plants with cleaner more modern ones.

In a single stroke, they can, percentagewise, do everything that California government uses draconian measures to do."

How about showing us the math?

]]> Comment #3 by christophersj http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/ Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:01:40 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/3 I tell you what Jabailo

I tell you what Jabailo, lets look at the economy of California and that of Virginia in ten years, and the percentage of growth in each, and then you tell me about evil draconian measures.

And you know what Mr. Libertarian?  You will find that government will do OK setting the boundaries of the new playing field (carbon regulation), and in turn, private individual entrepreneurs will kick ass competing within that field.  With freedom and creativity.

And you will have the freedom to choose what color your solar panels or wind turbine will be, so they match your house.  See?  Lots of freedom.  After all, do you whine about having to buy a catalytic converter and seat belts on your car today?

Your portrayal of a Big Brother doesn't wash.

Oh, I forgot to tell you:  In small letters stamped on the side of your panels and turbines will be written, "Made In California"

]]> I tell you what Jabailo

I tell you what Jabailo, lets look at the economy of California and that of Virginia in ten years, and the percentage of growth in each, and then you tell me about evil draconian measures.

And you know what Mr. Libertarian?  You will find that government will do OK setting the boundaries of the new playing field (carbon regulation), and in turn, private individual entrepreneurs will kick ass competing within that field.  With freedom and creativity.

And you will have the freedom to choose what color your solar panels or wind turbine will be, so they match your house.  See?  Lots of freedom.  After all, do you whine about having to buy a catalytic converter and seat belts on your car today?

Your portrayal of a Big Brother doesn't wash.

Oh, I forgot to tell you:  In small letters stamped on the side of your panels and turbines will be written, "Made In California"

]]> Comment #4 by Backcut http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/ Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:57:24 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/4 Just in 3 days

... California wildfires have put out more than 2.5 million tons (estimated) in GHG's from wildfires. Overall, fires nationwide have spewed out 20 million tons and it's still June. Last year, fires produced nearly 100 million tons of GHG's.

Just thought I'd give you folks some badly needed perspective.

Scenic pics at http://Lhfotoware.blogspot.com

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... California wildfires have put out more than 2.5 million tons (estimated) in GHG's from wildfires. Overall, fires nationwide have spewed out 20 million tons and it's still June. Last year, fires produced nearly 100 million tons of GHG's.

Just thought I'd give you folks some badly needed perspective.

Scenic pics at http://Lhfotoware.blogspot.com

]]> Comment #5 by Rico http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/ Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:25:13 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/5 California already did.

California got rid of their "old coal plants" long ago. However, CA currently does import a substantial portion of their utility power from coal-fired plants in neighboring states. But they're working to eliminate that as well.

]]> California already did.

California got rid of their "old coal plants" long ago. However, CA currently does import a substantial portion of their utility power from coal-fired plants in neighboring states. But they're working to eliminate that as well.

]]> Comment #6 by Tasermons Partner http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/ Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:38:52 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/6 Rico is right...

...California doesn't have many coal plants to begin with, jabailo.  Most of their energy comes from renewables, natural gas, and nukes.

While this plan is very good, one wonders what steps they will take to make sure it happens?

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...California doesn't have many coal plants to begin with, jabailo.  Most of their energy comes from renewables, natural gas, and nukes.

While this plan is very good, one wonders what steps they will take to make sure it happens?

]]> Comment #7 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/ Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:19:19 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/californication1/7 Good plan

Notice the items on methane control.  Should that read 20 tons CO2 GHG equivalent, or has the 21x (methane GHG effect/CO2 effect) factor already been taken into account?

California is way ahead as usual.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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Notice the items on methane control.  Should that read 20 tons CO2 GHG equivalent, or has the 21x (methane GHG effect/CO2 effect) factor already been taken into account?

California is way ahead as usual.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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