<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Not exactly]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/ Mon, 14 May 2007 01:59:12 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/1 Easier Done, Than Said

Bush set a goal of reducing gas consumption by 20 percent over 10 years.

GM's Volt gets 150 mpg.

That will reduce gas consumption by 80 percent.

And it will be available in 2010.

Bush achieves his goal.

John Bailo, The "Denier Guy"
You Read It Here First


]]> Easier Done, Than Said

Bush set a goal of reducing gas consumption by 20 percent over 10 years.

GM's Volt gets 150 mpg.

That will reduce gas consumption by 80 percent.

And it will be available in 2010.

Bush achieves his goal.

John Bailo, The "Denier Guy"
You Read It Here First


]]> Comment #2 by GreyFlcn http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/ Mon, 14 May 2007 02:04:58 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/2 Heh

Well, I actually agree with that part Bailo.

Except the follow-through is also to get off Coal.

]]> Heh

Well, I actually agree with that part Bailo.

Except the follow-through is also to get off Coal.

]]> Comment #3 by JMG http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/ Mon, 14 May 2007 03:18:50 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/3 So you're saying put CAFE at 150 mpg in 10 years?

Just checking--are you saying that we need CAFE standards to be set at 150 mpg in 10 years?  Not that there's anything wrong with that--I'm just trying to clarify your position.  

"An optimist is someone who thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist is someone who is afraid that the optimist is right."

]]> So you're saying put CAFE at 150 mpg in 10 years?

Just checking--are you saying that we need CAFE standards to be set at 150 mpg in 10 years?  Not that there's anything wrong with that--I'm just trying to clarify your position.  

"An optimist is someone who thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist is someone who is afraid that the optimist is right."

]]> Comment #4 by GreyFlcn http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/ Mon, 14 May 2007 03:48:21 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/4 No

He's just saying that the Chevy Volt doesn't use much gas.

Theoretically it gets infinite gasoline mileage since it's an electric hybrid.

]]> No

He's just saying that the Chevy Volt doesn't use much gas.

Theoretically it gets infinite gasoline mileage since it's an electric hybrid.

]]> Comment #5 by GreyFlcn http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/ Mon, 14 May 2007 04:20:33 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/5 That said

I don't trust GM ;D
And the Volt doesn't look all that practical.

However I do like their naming of the category of vehicle the Volt represents.

Unlike a PHEV (Plugin Hybrid Electric Vehicle) which has the conitation of a "Prius with a bigger battery"

I would call it an EREV (Extended Range Electric Vehicle)
Technically GM called their's a "car" instead of a "vehicle", but "E Rev" sounds pretty cool, and denotes a difference.

Essentially an EREV is a fully electric vehicle (EV), with the Extended Range and flexibility of a backup electric generator.

_

Good part about an EREV over a PHEV is that it doesn't have all the unneccisary parts of a gasoline drivetrain.

Which cuts down the cost and weight a lot.

A couple EV manufacturers are already looking at optional EREV capability :)

]]> That said

I don't trust GM ;D
And the Volt doesn't look all that practical.

However I do like their naming of the category of vehicle the Volt represents.

Unlike a PHEV (Plugin Hybrid Electric Vehicle) which has the conitation of a "Prius with a bigger battery"

I would call it an EREV (Extended Range Electric Vehicle)
Technically GM called their's a "car" instead of a "vehicle", but "E Rev" sounds pretty cool, and denotes a difference.

Essentially an EREV is a fully electric vehicle (EV), with the Extended Range and flexibility of a backup electric generator.

_

Good part about an EREV over a PHEV is that it doesn't have all the unneccisary parts of a gasoline drivetrain.

Which cuts down the cost and weight a lot.

A couple EV manufacturers are already looking at optional EREV capability :)

]]> Comment #6 by GreyFlcn http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/ Mon, 14 May 2007 04:24:13 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/6 Heh

Could even call it an "Extra Range Electric Vehicle"

To denote that the generator is for backup purposes.

]]> Heh

Could even call it an "Extra Range Electric Vehicle"

To denote that the generator is for backup purposes.

]]> Comment #7 by meander http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/ Mon, 14 May 2007 15:42:32 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/7 20% lower than what?

Wasn't one of the unreported loopholes in Bush's 20 in 10 plan that the goal was to be 20% below the expected 2017 consumption rate?  That's a lot easier than 20% below today's consumption rate.

]]> 20% lower than what?

Wasn't one of the unreported loopholes in Bush's 20 in 10 plan that the goal was to be 20% below the expected 2017 consumption rate?  That's a lot easier than 20% below today's consumption rate.

]]> Comment #8 by Stump http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/ Thu, 24 May 2007 09:46:09 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bush-responding-to-supreme-court/8 Bush is a joke

I find it hard to listen to anything Premiere Bush and the rest of our Comrades in Moscow DC. have to say concerning fuel economy and/or environmental change. Where would we be if he had not brought the federal government into the lawsuit to force California to abandon its clean air program in the 90's. Had the oil companies,Big three automakers, and the Federal Government been as concerned with improving the environment problems we face, as they are with the corporate profits that fund their campaigns, we would see large fleets of EV 1s on the road today. The government is only worried about stuffing the pockets of large corporations. They could care less about the environment or the American people in general.  

The light at the end of the tunnel has ben turned off due to budget cuts...

]]> Bush is a joke

I find it hard to listen to anything Premiere Bush and the rest of our Comrades in Moscow DC. have to say concerning fuel economy and/or environmental change. Where would we be if he had not brought the federal government into the lawsuit to force California to abandon its clean air program in the 90's. Had the oil companies,Big three automakers, and the Federal Government been as concerned with improving the environment problems we face, as they are with the corporate profits that fund their campaigns, we would see large fleets of EV 1s on the road today. The government is only worried about stuffing the pockets of large corporations. They could care less about the environment or the American people in general.  

The light at the end of the tunnel has ben turned off due to budget cuts...

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