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            <title>Comment #1 by Ineffable</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:51:52 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Lighter than 20 years ago</strong></p><p>I finally learned to drive and bought a car around 20 years ago when I sheared off a toe clip in the middle of a busy (and steeply banked) intersection while towing my 2 kids from the park. &nbsp;The trailer was made out of plywood and had a little seat in it that was not nearly as comfy looking as the modern kind. &nbsp;Until the toe clip incident I biked them to day care and back every day and sometimes loaded groceries in there too. &nbsp;I still have that old trailer and its still heavy. I use it for cargo because I have reverted to the bicycle way of life and no longer need the drivers license much. &nbsp;The kids, now 21 and 23 also bike as much as they can. &nbsp;The four of us at three addresses have been sharing one prius for about a year.</p>
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				<p><strong>Lighter than 20 years ago</strong></p><p>I finally learned to drive and bought a car around 20 years ago when I sheared off a toe clip in the middle of a busy (and steeply banked) intersection while towing my 2 kids from the park. &nbsp;The trailer was made out of plywood and had a little seat in it that was not nearly as comfy looking as the modern kind. &nbsp;Until the toe clip incident I biked them to day care and back every day and sometimes loaded groceries in there too. &nbsp;I still have that old trailer and its still heavy. I use it for cargo because I have reverted to the bicycle way of life and no longer need the drivers license much. &nbsp;The kids, now 21 and 23 also bike as much as they can. &nbsp;The four of us at three addresses have been sharing one prius for about a year.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by lgrayum</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:04:37 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Sidecar !</strong></p><p>In the past 2 years my husband &amp; I have become more and more dependent on our bikes to get around town and do things. Thus, when I got pregnant we started researching our options to haul our precious load along, without having to rely on a car. We came across the Chariot Sidecar. Once our little boy was old enough to safely take along we found one used on Craigslist and just love it. &nbsp;It seemed to be better to have our kid next to us, so we could talk to him, make sure he was ok, give him food/drink/pacifier. He loves being in there, riding around, seeing everything. <br>
I would highly recomend it. We love it!</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Sidecar !</strong></p><p>In the past 2 years my husband &amp; I have become more and more dependent on our bikes to get around town and do things. Thus, when I got pregnant we started researching our options to haul our precious load along, without having to rely on a car. We came across the Chariot Sidecar. Once our little boy was old enough to safely take along we found one used on Craigslist and just love it. &nbsp;It seemed to be better to have our kid next to us, so we could talk to him, make sure he was ok, give him food/drink/pacifier. He loves being in there, riding around, seeing everything. <br>
I would highly recomend it. We love it!</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by redambrosia99</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:22:18 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>oh umbra...</strong></p><p>we never get tired of you gushing about bikes. &nbsp;We're all bike nerds too ^.^</p><p>
What brand is the tandem bike pictured at the top, with the kid in the front? &nbsp;I've never seen those before.</p>
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				<p><strong>oh umbra...</strong></p><p>we never get tired of you gushing about bikes. &nbsp;We're all bike nerds too ^.^</p><p>
What brand is the tandem bike pictured at the top, with the kid in the front? &nbsp;I've never seen those before.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by carfreedays</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:30:58 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>KidzTandem<p>it's a KidzTandem made by Brown Cycles in Grand Junction, CO.<p>
<a href="http://www.browncycles.com/tandems.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.browncycles.com/tandems.htm</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>KidzTandem<p>it's a KidzTandem made by Brown Cycles in Grand Junction, CO.<p>
<a href="http://www.browncycles.com/tandems.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.browncycles.com/tandems.htm</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by redambrosia99</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:33:15 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>sweet</strong></p><p>thanks ^.^ &lt;3</p>
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				<p><strong>sweet</strong></p><p>thanks ^.^ &lt;3</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by human power</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:44:33 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Kids belong in front</strong></p><p>I am uncomfortable with people putting kids on the back of bikes or in trailers (I have seen some nasty outcomes), particularly in this age of cell phone distracted operators of two-ton motorized wheelchairs. If one does not mind a bit of extra weight, Peter Wagner of Whymcycle fame makes rear-steer tandems and triples with children's cranks from reclaimed Schwinns. I think he charges less than $300 plus shipping (they are completely recycled, so don't expect glossy finishes and new components). As the child gets older, it is fun to watch people react to a tandem rolling down the road with the five-year-old "captain" crossing his arms across his chest.</p>
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				<p><strong>Kids belong in front</strong></p><p>I am uncomfortable with people putting kids on the back of bikes or in trailers (I have seen some nasty outcomes), particularly in this age of cell phone distracted operators of two-ton motorized wheelchairs. If one does not mind a bit of extra weight, Peter Wagner of Whymcycle fame makes rear-steer tandems and triples with children's cranks from reclaimed Schwinns. I think he charges less than $300 plus shipping (they are completely recycled, so don't expect glossy finishes and new components). As the child gets older, it is fun to watch people react to a tandem rolling down the road with the five-year-old "captain" crossing his arms across his chest.</p>
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