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            <title>Comment #1 by Gar Lipow</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:00:07 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I have a bleg on bottled water</strong></p><p>I long since cut out all bottled water with one exception. I buy 5 or 6 1 gallon liter containers, keep them 18 months, then gradually use to them up and replace them with new ones. That way I have an emergency water supply should earthquake or storm cut off the sink and trap me. This is standard emergency advice. &nbsp;Is there an alternative. I don't think putting water into my own containers is a reasonable alternative because I don't think self bottled water keeps as well. (One does not self-bottle in those quantities under aseptic conditions.) A reusable container is fine for day to day use but I don't think so much for long term emergency storage where the water will be left untouched for over a year. Any suggestions? </p>
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				<p><strong>I have a bleg on bottled water</strong></p><p>I long since cut out all bottled water with one exception. I buy 5 or 6 1 gallon liter containers, keep them 18 months, then gradually use to them up and replace them with new ones. That way I have an emergency water supply should earthquake or storm cut off the sink and trap me. This is standard emergency advice. &nbsp;Is there an alternative. I don't think putting water into my own containers is a reasonable alternative because I don't think self bottled water keeps as well. (One does not self-bottle in those quantities under aseptic conditions.) A reusable container is fine for day to day use but I don't think so much for long term emergency storage where the water will be left untouched for over a year. Any suggestions? </p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by kmp</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:15:50 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>A rain barrel...</strong></p><p>...and a good water filter?</p><p>
Personally, I don't think buying half a dozen gallon jugs of water once a year or so is too damaging, from a sustainability standpoint.</p>
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				<p><strong>A rain barrel...</strong></p><p>...and a good water filter?</p><p>
Personally, I don't think buying half a dozen gallon jugs of water once a year or so is too damaging, from a sustainability standpoint.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Werdna</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:25:20 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Same with organic food</strong></p><p>I don't know where I heard it, but I believe that there is a similar slump in the organic market. &nbsp;Unfortunately, people are less willing to spend money on "luxury" items when they can get cheap stuff.

<p>Andrew Eisenberg
<br>The gateway project is wrong---http://www.livableregion.ca</p></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Same with organic food</strong></p><p>I don't know where I heard it, but I believe that there is a similar slump in the organic market. &nbsp;Unfortunately, people are less willing to spend money on "luxury" items when they can get cheap stuff.

<p>Andrew Eisenberg
<br>The gateway project is wrong---http://www.livableregion.ca</p></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Tom Philpott</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:04:31 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>that's a non-problem, Gar...<p>... but, you should check into the kind of plastic you're getting. I don't have my copy of Bottlemania with me now, but I do remember Royte saying that those one-gallon water jugs use a <strong>really nasty kind of plastic -- nastier than the clear plastic used for standard &gt;1 liter bottles. <p>
Andrew, growth in organics is slowing a bit due to factors you mention. But with this water stuff, I think another factor (besides economic pain) is that greenie types are abandoning bottled water fast. At Slow Food Nation in SF last week, organizers tried real hard to -- and generally succeeding in -- banishing bottled water completely. They were really pushing filtered tap water. Brandishing a bottle of water drew reactions about like chowing down an Oscar Meyer wiener -- I don't think that would have been the case as recently as a year ago. 

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				<p><strong>that's a non-problem, Gar...<p>... but, you should check into the kind of plastic you're getting. I don't have my copy of Bottlemania with me now, but I do remember Royte saying that those one-gallon water jugs use a <strong>really nasty kind of plastic -- nastier than the clear plastic used for standard &gt;1 liter bottles. <p>
Andrew, growth in organics is slowing a bit due to factors you mention. But with this water stuff, I think another factor (besides economic pain) is that greenie types are abandoning bottled water fast. At Slow Food Nation in SF last week, organizers tried real hard to -- and generally succeeding in -- banishing bottled water completely. They were really pushing filtered tap water. Brandishing a bottle of water drew reactions about like chowing down an Oscar Meyer wiener -- I don't think that would have been the case as recently as a year ago. 

<p><a href="http://www.grist.org/topic/Victual_Reality" rel="nofollow">Victual Reality</a></p></p></strong></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by mcronheim</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:08:23 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>what about corporate?</strong></p><p>I'm inclined to assert that the massive scale-back in bottled water purchasing by huge companies to stock their break-rooms has a monumental effect here. I do some consulting for a huge IT company in the process of discontinuing bottled water. A few of these huge buyers could have a considerable impact in this market. 

<p>Matthew Cronheim
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				<p><strong>what about corporate?</strong></p><p>I'm inclined to assert that the massive scale-back in bottled water purchasing by huge companies to stock their break-rooms has a monumental effect here. I do some consulting for a huge IT company in the process of discontinuing bottled water. A few of these huge buyers could have a considerable impact in this market. 

<p>Matthew Cronheim
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            <title>Comment #6 by E Royte</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:59:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>. . . but enhanced waters keep on rolling</strong></p><p>While plain old bottled water has taken a hit (thanks to the economy and to the educational campaigns of pressure groups), the enhanced water category has grown enormously: up 18.4 percent during the same period. While it's true that nutrient- or caffeine-enhanced waters don't come from our taps, the production of those bottles (any bottles), and their transportation and disposal still present many of the same environmental problems as un-enhanced waters. </p>
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				<p><strong>. . . but enhanced waters keep on rolling</strong></p><p>While plain old bottled water has taken a hit (thanks to the economy and to the educational campaigns of pressure groups), the enhanced water category has grown enormously: up 18.4 percent during the same period. While it's true that nutrient- or caffeine-enhanced waters don't come from our taps, the production of those bottles (any bottles), and their transportation and disposal still present many of the same environmental problems as un-enhanced waters. </p>
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