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            <title>Comment #1 by radrerun</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:33:45 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>You forgot something...</strong></p><p>Good sleuthing, Umbra, but there's a glaring omission from this post and the one on sippy cups: GLASS!</p><p>
People could just use glass containers that they've bought drinks in that have the screw-on cap. &nbsp;I don't know how harmful the cap is, but the glass obviously doesn't leach.</p><p>
I've used Fuze and Bionaturae bottles for my water, before my roommates accidentally recycled them.</p><p>
Give glass a try and that way you're not only NOT getting bisphenol-A, but you're also doing one of the 3 Rs: reusing!</p>
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				<p><strong>You forgot something...</strong></p><p>Good sleuthing, Umbra, but there's a glaring omission from this post and the one on sippy cups: GLASS!</p><p>
People could just use glass containers that they've bought drinks in that have the screw-on cap. &nbsp;I don't know how harmful the cap is, but the glass obviously doesn't leach.</p><p>
I've used Fuze and Bionaturae bottles for my water, before my roommates accidentally recycled them.</p><p>
Give glass a try and that way you're not only NOT getting bisphenol-A, but you're also doing one of the 3 Rs: reusing!</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by bryano</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 07:11:15 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Prevalent Perplexing Plastics</strong></p><p>I'm generally happy to see any clarification within this whole category of myths we live by. After today's article, though, I was less sure of some things I've learned in the not-so-distant past. </p><p>
First, I was thrown by the parenthetical, "I should note that Nalgene makes bottles from other, less-yucky types of plastic." &nbsp;I, and I'm sure many other daily Grist readers, read this to mean that ubiquitous brightly colored bottles aren't bisphenol-A leaching afterall. Only when I followed the link did it appear that they are. I have an ancient #2 Nalgene bottle, but haven't seen one like it in a store for years. </p><p>
2nd, "The only thing we know for sure about your particular polycarbonate bottle is that you are going to chuck it into the recycling bin and find a new water-carrying device." &nbsp;This confuses me since as far as I know polycarbonate plastic isn't generally recycled--or more precisely, "downcycled," as nicely clarified in the Nalgene-related link.</p><p>
In that column, "Nalgene Therapy" 1/10/05, you noted, "I wouldn't seek out #1 for those plastic-necessitating moments -- #2, #4, and #5 are better." &nbsp;I'm not clear on why this is so. The little "recycling" symbol is deceptive since it classifies type and not recyclability. Many products with a #2, for example yogurt containers, aren't "recyclable" like their milk bottle cousins because hardening agents and/or dyes have been added.</p><p>
So, here's the question for you, coming from someone who no longer feels so secure in his knowledge of recycling (beyond that it comes in third, after reduce and reuse): &nbsp;What actually becomes of the millions of tons of #s 1, 2, 4, and 5 we dutifully chuck into "recycle" bins everyday?<br>
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				<p><strong>Prevalent Perplexing Plastics</strong></p><p>I'm generally happy to see any clarification within this whole category of myths we live by. After today's article, though, I was less sure of some things I've learned in the not-so-distant past. </p><p>
First, I was thrown by the parenthetical, "I should note that Nalgene makes bottles from other, less-yucky types of plastic." &nbsp;I, and I'm sure many other daily Grist readers, read this to mean that ubiquitous brightly colored bottles aren't bisphenol-A leaching afterall. Only when I followed the link did it appear that they are. I have an ancient #2 Nalgene bottle, but haven't seen one like it in a store for years. </p><p>
2nd, "The only thing we know for sure about your particular polycarbonate bottle is that you are going to chuck it into the recycling bin and find a new water-carrying device." &nbsp;This confuses me since as far as I know polycarbonate plastic isn't generally recycled--or more precisely, "downcycled," as nicely clarified in the Nalgene-related link.</p><p>
In that column, "Nalgene Therapy" 1/10/05, you noted, "I wouldn't seek out #1 for those plastic-necessitating moments -- #2, #4, and #5 are better." &nbsp;I'm not clear on why this is so. The little "recycling" symbol is deceptive since it classifies type and not recyclability. Many products with a #2, for example yogurt containers, aren't "recyclable" like their milk bottle cousins because hardening agents and/or dyes have been added.</p><p>
So, here's the question for you, coming from someone who no longer feels so secure in his knowledge of recycling (beyond that it comes in third, after reduce and reuse): &nbsp;What actually becomes of the millions of tons of #s 1, 2, 4, and 5 we dutifully chuck into "recycle" bins everyday?<br>
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            <title>Comment #3 by TheSSG</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:54:53 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Glass Bottles</strong></p><p>I give Glass another Thumbs up.<br>
That's what I use.</p><p>
But what I think is even more pressing than containers (Cause glass bottles are easy to come by) is the matter of Filters for water.</p><p>
Do they make ones that aren't platic?</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Glass Bottles</strong></p><p>I give Glass another Thumbs up.<br>
That's what I use.</p><p>
But what I think is even more pressing than containers (Cause glass bottles are easy to come by) is the matter of Filters for water.</p><p>
Do they make ones that aren't platic?</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Anita Knight</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:26:22 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Aluminum or plastic?</strong></p><p>The reason aluminum cans are lined is because the water used in processing usually is fluoridated and will leach aluminum from the can and form aluminum-fluoride complexes. The EPA nominated Aluminum-fluoride to be studied for neurotoxicity and other effects, and in the references for the nomination it was noted about the leaching and forming complexes. <br>
&nbsp;I use glass as much as possible and enamel or steel is good, but as far as filters go, they will not remove fluorides, only reverse osmosis will and is expensive. I buy Zephyrhills Spring Water that is high in calcium and magnesium that will, in high levels form insoluble complexes with the fluorides. Calcium gluconate is the antidote for fluoride poisoning. </br></p>
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				<p><strong>Aluminum or plastic?</strong></p><p>The reason aluminum cans are lined is because the water used in processing usually is fluoridated and will leach aluminum from the can and form aluminum-fluoride complexes. The EPA nominated Aluminum-fluoride to be studied for neurotoxicity and other effects, and in the references for the nomination it was noted about the leaching and forming complexes. <br>
&nbsp;I use glass as much as possible and enamel or steel is good, but as far as filters go, they will not remove fluorides, only reverse osmosis will and is expensive. I buy Zephyrhills Spring Water that is high in calcium and magnesium that will, in high levels form insoluble complexes with the fluorides. Calcium gluconate is the antidote for fluoride poisoning. </br></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by radrerun</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/bottle_battle/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 04:33:28 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Filters and questions...</strong></p><p>Holy crap, good point TheSSG. &nbsp;I was actually thinking of buying a new showerhead when I find a new place to live that both adds air to the water (uses less water) as well as filters. &nbsp;I guess that's something to think about since when was the last time anyone saw any filters for drinking water or shower water that utilizes anything but plastic?</p><p>
Yikes. I'm gonna Goodsearch and check that out.</p><p>
If I find anything or not, I'll post again.</p><p>
Kim</p>
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				<p><strong>Filters and questions...</strong></p><p>Holy crap, good point TheSSG. &nbsp;I was actually thinking of buying a new showerhead when I find a new place to live that both adds air to the water (uses less water) as well as filters. &nbsp;I guess that's something to think about since when was the last time anyone saw any filters for drinking water or shower water that utilizes anything but plastic?</p><p>
Yikes. I'm gonna Goodsearch and check that out.</p><p>
If I find anything or not, I'll post again.</p><p>
Kim</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by radrerun</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 06:49:36 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Haven't found anything...</strong></p><p>...in regards to non-plastic water filters.</p>
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				<p><strong>Haven't found anything...</strong></p><p>...in regards to non-plastic water filters.</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by BPAfree</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:27:17 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>non plastic water filters<p>found 2<p>
<a href="http://www.watersavers.com/docs/waterfilter_ep_filtercooler_ss2piece.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.watersavers.com/docs/waterfilter_ep_filtercool ...<p>
<a href="http://www.watersavers.com/docs/waterfilter_ep_filter_ceramic.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.watersavers.com/docs/waterfilter_ep_filter_cer ...</a></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>non plastic water filters<p>found 2<p>
<a href="http://www.watersavers.com/docs/waterfilter_ep_filtercooler_ss2piece.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.watersavers.com/docs/waterfilter_ep_filtercool ...<p>
<a href="http://www.watersavers.com/docs/waterfilter_ep_filter_ceramic.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.watersavers.com/docs/waterfilter_ep_filter_cer ...</a></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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