<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Read his cranky email to a consumer]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by caniscandida http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/ Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:33:13 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/1 testy, testy!

It is good to have evidence that those already-written e-mail messages do indeed get under the skin of a recipient sometimes.

I generally try to "personalize" the Subject heading and a bit of the body, in the belief that that makes the message more likely to be read.  But who knows?

Chickens are our cousins! So are other sensitive animals! Enough is enough! No more factory farms!

]]> testy, testy!

It is good to have evidence that those already-written e-mail messages do indeed get under the skin of a recipient sometimes.

I generally try to "personalize" the Subject heading and a bit of the body, in the belief that that makes the message more likely to be read.  But who knows?

Chickens are our cousins! So are other sensitive animals! Enough is enough! No more factory farms!

]]> Comment #2 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/ Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:26:10 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/2 The Do's And The Say's

Bob Lutz should be cranky.  It seems in this debate over global warming, there are the "Dos" and the "Says".

The "Says" are Al Gore, Bono and Richard Branson.  These guys go around preaching without having any knowledge or clues about science or engineering.   These are the Luddites who think that the 18th Century Little Ice Age was the peak of civilization.

Then there are the leaders of industry, engineers and real scientists (not the poli-scientists of the IPCC) who have been quietly working on fuel cells, sonofusion, hydrogen producing algae and so on.  These are the Bob Lutzes of the world, the "Do's" the people who "do" things and are trying to bring the world kicking and screaming into the 21st Century.

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]]> The Do's And The Say's

Bob Lutz should be cranky.  It seems in this debate over global warming, there are the "Dos" and the "Says".

The "Says" are Al Gore, Bono and Richard Branson.  These guys go around preaching without having any knowledge or clues about science or engineering.   These are the Luddites who think that the 18th Century Little Ice Age was the peak of civilization.

Then there are the leaders of industry, engineers and real scientists (not the poli-scientists of the IPCC) who have been quietly working on fuel cells, sonofusion, hydrogen producing algae and so on.  These are the Bob Lutzes of the world, the "Do's" the people who "do" things and are trying to bring the world kicking and screaming into the 21st Century.

The Texeme Construct offers international text memetics construction and textcasting services. http://www.you-read-it-here-first.com

]]> Comment #3 by GonzoDon http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/ Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:58:28 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/3 The Haves and the Haves-not

Thanks jabailo.  Thank goodness, eh, that we have leaders like GW Bush pushing 'Intelligent Design' onto unwilling biology teachers, and pushing real (but inconvenient) scientific data out of reports issued by the CDC, the EPA, and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.  

Dude.  Talk about 'preaching without having any knowledge or clues about science' ...

Science, technology, and industry can and no doubt will contribute much toward helping wean us off of dwindling fossil fuels.  But, unfortunately, with the global population skyrocketing past 6.5 billion on its way to 9 billion, and energy consumption habits globally showing a similar trend, man will not be saved by technology alone.  Call me crazy, but I'm not gonna hold my breath that Bob Lutz will save me through the wisdom and compassion of his capitalistic little heart.

Ultimately, we have no choice but to reduce our numbers and scale down our consumptive habits.  If we don't do it ourselves, believe me, nature will do it for us.  The difference being that, in the latter case, the forcing will come on nature's own timetable, and in whatever nasty, brutish, and unsympathetic manner she chooses.

On the bright side, due to GW's ill-conceived and poorly-executed war in Iraq, I heard today that Baghdad citizens are getting only about 2 hours of electricity per day.  Wow.  Think of all the energy savings!  Perhaps that is Bush's secret plan to slow global warming.  Always thinking ahead, that George!

]]> The Haves and the Haves-not

Thanks jabailo.  Thank goodness, eh, that we have leaders like GW Bush pushing 'Intelligent Design' onto unwilling biology teachers, and pushing real (but inconvenient) scientific data out of reports issued by the CDC, the EPA, and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.  

Dude.  Talk about 'preaching without having any knowledge or clues about science' ...

Science, technology, and industry can and no doubt will contribute much toward helping wean us off of dwindling fossil fuels.  But, unfortunately, with the global population skyrocketing past 6.5 billion on its way to 9 billion, and energy consumption habits globally showing a similar trend, man will not be saved by technology alone.  Call me crazy, but I'm not gonna hold my breath that Bob Lutz will save me through the wisdom and compassion of his capitalistic little heart.

Ultimately, we have no choice but to reduce our numbers and scale down our consumptive habits.  If we don't do it ourselves, believe me, nature will do it for us.  The difference being that, in the latter case, the forcing will come on nature's own timetable, and in whatever nasty, brutish, and unsympathetic manner she chooses.

On the bright side, due to GW's ill-conceived and poorly-executed war in Iraq, I heard today that Baghdad citizens are getting only about 2 hours of electricity per day.  Wow.  Think of all the energy savings!  Perhaps that is Bush's secret plan to slow global warming.  Always thinking ahead, that George!

]]> Comment #4 by Steven T http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/ Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:08:38 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/4 Lutz and the dirty hippies

Lutz is GM's version of Spiro Agnew -- the tough-talking guy they send out to beat up on dirty hippies.  Lutz is always good for a colorful quote, but he's also remarkably neanderthal in his views.  And, of course GM's P.R. department will invariably insist that Lutz emphasize coming attractions rather than explain away past sins. (You don't think Lutz wrote that email without "assistance," do you?)

All that said, Lutz is right about one thing:  The auto industry has gone through quite a bit of change since GM pulled the plug on the EV1.  I don't say that to endorse any of GM's promised "green" offerings, which strike me as too little, too late.  However, it's too bad enviros don't spend more time reading up on auto industry news before unleashing their letter-writing campaigns, because a more carefully crafted message might have a greater impact.

]]> Lutz and the dirty hippies

Lutz is GM's version of Spiro Agnew -- the tough-talking guy they send out to beat up on dirty hippies.  Lutz is always good for a colorful quote, but he's also remarkably neanderthal in his views.  And, of course GM's P.R. department will invariably insist that Lutz emphasize coming attractions rather than explain away past sins. (You don't think Lutz wrote that email without "assistance," do you?)

All that said, Lutz is right about one thing:  The auto industry has gone through quite a bit of change since GM pulled the plug on the EV1.  I don't say that to endorse any of GM's promised "green" offerings, which strike me as too little, too late.  However, it's too bad enviros don't spend more time reading up on auto industry news before unleashing their letter-writing campaigns, because a more carefully crafted message might have a greater impact.

]]> Comment #5 by GreyFlcn http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/ Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:26:32 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/5 Heh

"and are trying to bring the world kicking and screaming into the 21st Century."

Everyone wants progress, but nobody wants change.

:P

]]> Heh

"and are trying to bring the world kicking and screaming into the 21st Century."

Everyone wants progress, but nobody wants change.

:P

]]> Comment #6 by EliRabett http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/ Sun, 01 Apr 2007 03:20:20 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/6 You might remember

Gore was the driving force behind the Partnership for New Generation Vehicles.  GM took the research money and did bupkis with the design that was developed (it was a diesel hybrid).  Gore did GM talked.

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Gore was the driving force behind the Partnership for New Generation Vehicles.  GM took the research money and did bupkis with the design that was developed (it was a diesel hybrid).  Gore did GM talked.

]]> Comment #7 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/ Sun, 01 Apr 2007 03:40:24 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bob-lutz-needs-a-vacation/7 Bob

Bob has been bobbin' his head up and down gas guzzlin' for his homies in the oil biz for decades.  Coulda had that EV1 be a serial plugin hybrid.  Stead o' trashin' it.

Toyota took over number one.

So now he's frustrated?  Guess the Saudis ain't coming to his parties OR bushy's lately.  No you dihint!  Snap.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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Bob has been bobbin' his head up and down gas guzzlin' for his homies in the oil biz for decades.  Coulda had that EV1 be a serial plugin hybrid.  Stead o' trashin' it.

Toyota took over number one.

So now he's frustrated?  Guess the Saudis ain't coming to his parties OR bushy's lately.  No you dihint!  Snap.

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog

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