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            <title>Comment #1 by GreenEngineer</title>
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				<p><strong>So</strong></p><p>If they succeed, the big producers will make worse chocolate, using less cocoa. &nbsp;Thus they will purchase less cut-rate chocolate from exploited farmers, and their product quality will suffer.</p><p>
In the meantime, the premium chocolate companies will probably capture more market share, as the difference between their products and the mass produced crap becomes more obvious, and thus the demand for good quality, carefully grown chocolate will increase.</p><p>
What's the downside here?</p>
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				<p><strong>So</strong></p><p>If they succeed, the big producers will make worse chocolate, using less cocoa. &nbsp;Thus they will purchase less cut-rate chocolate from exploited farmers, and their product quality will suffer.</p><p>
In the meantime, the premium chocolate companies will probably capture more market share, as the difference between their products and the mass produced crap becomes more obvious, and thus the demand for good quality, carefully grown chocolate will increase.</p><p>
What's the downside here?</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Chris Schults</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:09:22 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Theo<p><a href="http://www.theochocolate.com/" rel="nofollow">Theo Chocolate here in Seattle!

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				<p><strong>Theo<p><a href="http://www.theochocolate.com/" rel="nofollow">Theo Chocolate here in Seattle!

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            <title>Comment #3 by David Roberts</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:19:40 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>May I heartily recommend ...<p>... <a href="http://www.theochocolate.com/" rel="nofollow">Theo chocolate.As true chocolate makers, we carefully steward our cacao (cocoa beans) through the process of roasting, blending and conching in order to coax out the distinctive flavor imparted by each unique growing region. We are proud to be the first roaster of Fair Trade CertifiedTM cocoa beans and the only roaster of organic cocoa beans in the United States. Grist staff took a private tour and it was fascinating -- I'll never be able to eat Hershey's again, much less if they start putting partially hydrogenated soybean oil or some such in it. 

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				<p><strong>May I heartily recommend ...<p>... <a href="http://www.theochocolate.com/" rel="nofollow">Theo chocolate.As true chocolate makers, we carefully steward our cacao (cocoa beans) through the process of roasting, blending and conching in order to coax out the distinctive flavor imparted by each unique growing region. We are proud to be the first roaster of Fair Trade CertifiedTM cocoa beans and the only roaster of organic cocoa beans in the United States. Grist staff took a private tour and it was fascinating -- I'll never be able to eat Hershey's again, much less if they start putting partially hydrogenated soybean oil or some such in it. 

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            <title>Comment #4 by David Roberts</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:20:19 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Like Chris said!</strong></p><p>

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				<p><strong>Like Chris said!</strong></p><p>

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            <title>Comment #5 by Mike Breen</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:13:48 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Dagoba Organic Chocolate<p><a href="http://www.dagobachocolate.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dagobachocolate.com/<p>
Dedicated to the Art of Chocolate Alchemy: Transforming exceptional cacao into pure chocolate perfection. &nbsp;We practice<br>
Full Circle Sustainability* that blends quality, ecology, equity &amp; community<br>
into everything we do.</br></br></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Dagoba Organic Chocolate<p><a href="http://www.dagobachocolate.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dagobachocolate.com/<p>
Dedicated to the Art of Chocolate Alchemy: Transforming exceptional cacao into pure chocolate perfection. &nbsp;We practice<br>
Full Circle Sustainability* that blends quality, ecology, equity &amp; community<br>
into everything we do.</br></br></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Tom Philpott</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:40:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Hey Dave,<p>Did you make it to Jacques Torres in Dumbo, Brooklyn? It's pretty amazing. I look forward to trying Theo one of these days. 

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				<p><strong>Hey Dave,<p>Did you make it to Jacques Torres in Dumbo, Brooklyn? It's pretty amazing. I look forward to trying Theo one of these days. 

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            <title>Comment #7 by typetive</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:22:30 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>The FDA Document Contains more than Chocolate</strong></p><p>The FDA is considering MANY things within the docket under consideration. That's why there are so many names on that "citizen's petition". Yes, ADM would benefit in many areas should this pass as they make both chocolate and many of the substitute oils. </p><p>
The curious thing about this docket is that there is an open comment period, but the precise contents of the docket have not been posted on the FDA website for the public to view. (As the originator of the editorial in the LATimes, I tried very hard to get a hold of the text.)</p><p>
The portion about chocolate has come to light because a member of the CMA has dissented from the organization and passed around the proposed changes while we could still voice our opinion.</p><p>
The proposal will simply ALLOW manufacturers to use cheaper, substandard ingredients. It won't insist that they do. There are fine chocolate companies that exceed the minimums right now. But you know, once you open the can of worms...</p><p>
My ultimate suspicion is that this will have less of an impact on our day to day chocolate bars, but more in foods where chocolate is an ingredient, such as baked goods. Mockolate Chip Cookies anyone?</p>
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				<p><strong>The FDA Document Contains more than Chocolate</strong></p><p>The FDA is considering MANY things within the docket under consideration. That's why there are so many names on that "citizen's petition". Yes, ADM would benefit in many areas should this pass as they make both chocolate and many of the substitute oils. </p><p>
The curious thing about this docket is that there is an open comment period, but the precise contents of the docket have not been posted on the FDA website for the public to view. (As the originator of the editorial in the LATimes, I tried very hard to get a hold of the text.)</p><p>
The portion about chocolate has come to light because a member of the CMA has dissented from the organization and passed around the proposed changes while we could still voice our opinion.</p><p>
The proposal will simply ALLOW manufacturers to use cheaper, substandard ingredients. It won't insist that they do. There are fine chocolate companies that exceed the minimums right now. But you know, once you open the can of worms...</p><p>
My ultimate suspicion is that this will have less of an impact on our day to day chocolate bars, but more in foods where chocolate is an ingredient, such as baked goods. Mockolate Chip Cookies anyone?</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by Liara Covert</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:33:16 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Chocolate sabotage campaign?</strong></p><p>If the goal of the described policy campaign is to enable more, cheaper chocolate to flood the market, then increased compeition may evolve to compete with existing low quality chocolate. Theoretically, true connaisseurs will still choose higher quality chocolate, with cocoa butter, if they can afford it, and if new regulations don't ban it. &nbsp;The big question is, what kinds of implications might the change in U.S. policy have for for foreign chocolate imports? What woiuld it take for policy to evolve to favor free-trade chocolate over junk? So much for a society where elected leaders seek to increase awareness of health conscious choices. The curious are still prompted to ask, "what's in this policy for them and us?"

<p>Positive change begins with each of us</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Chocolate sabotage campaign?</strong></p><p>If the goal of the described policy campaign is to enable more, cheaper chocolate to flood the market, then increased compeition may evolve to compete with existing low quality chocolate. Theoretically, true connaisseurs will still choose higher quality chocolate, with cocoa butter, if they can afford it, and if new regulations don't ban it. &nbsp;The big question is, what kinds of implications might the change in U.S. policy have for for foreign chocolate imports? What woiuld it take for policy to evolve to favor free-trade chocolate over junk? So much for a society where elected leaders seek to increase awareness of health conscious choices. The curious are still prompted to ask, "what's in this policy for them and us?"

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            <title>Comment #9 by meander</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:17:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>The FDA docket page<p>If you want to read the petition to see the full proposal, visit <a href="http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dockets/07p0085/07p-0085.htm" rel="nofollow">FDA Docket 2007P-0085. &nbsp;<p>
How often are citizen's petitions like this approved by FDA? &nbsp;Can they approve parts of it and reject other parts? &nbsp;</p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>The FDA docket page<p>If you want to read the petition to see the full proposal, visit <a href="http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dockets/07p0085/07p-0085.htm" rel="nofollow">FDA Docket 2007P-0085. &nbsp;<p>
How often are citizen's petitions like this approved by FDA? &nbsp;Can they approve parts of it and reject other parts? &nbsp;</p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by Gary Gifford</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:54:55 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Let the Market choose</strong></p><p>Seems that the marketplace will decide what it wants. &nbsp;Does the change not prohibit choclatiers from advertising: "chocolate made with pure cocoa butter"?</p><p>
Who cares? &nbsp;Is this the what the FDA is spending their time on? &nbsp;For Christ Sake, there are bigger FDA issues in the the world than this. &nbsp;Maybe the FDA has too much time on its hands and should reallocate some personnel to solving some of the serious issues facing the nation and planet.

<p>Cheers,
Gary Gifford</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Let the Market choose</strong></p><p>Seems that the marketplace will decide what it wants. &nbsp;Does the change not prohibit choclatiers from advertising: "chocolate made with pure cocoa butter"?</p><p>
Who cares? &nbsp;Is this the what the FDA is spending their time on? &nbsp;For Christ Sake, there are bigger FDA issues in the the world than this. &nbsp;Maybe the FDA has too much time on its hands and should reallocate some personnel to solving some of the serious issues facing the nation and planet.

<p>Cheers,
Gary Gifford</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by Jeremy Cherfas</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 22:24:18 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Divine chocolate<p>Have you heard of Divine Chocolate, which is 45% owned by a cocoa cooperative in Ghana? I saw it in an article in the Economist a couple of weeks ago. that's behind a paywall, but <a href="http://divinechocolate.com/" rel="nofollow">the company has lots of information and seems to have US outlets.<p>
As for the crappy chocolate, we've had that in the UK for years, to the point where the EU was rumoured to be considering forcing UK chocs to be labelled "chocolate-flavoured vegetable fat" or something equally apocryphal. People who eat crap continue to eat it. As one commenter said, what's the problem?<br>
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				<p><strong>Divine chocolate<p>Have you heard of Divine Chocolate, which is 45% owned by a cocoa cooperative in Ghana? I saw it in an article in the Economist a couple of weeks ago. that's behind a paywall, but <a href="http://divinechocolate.com/" rel="nofollow">the company has lots of information and seems to have US outlets.<p>
As for the crappy chocolate, we've had that in the UK for years, to the point where the EU was rumoured to be considering forcing UK chocs to be labelled "chocolate-flavoured vegetable fat" or something equally apocryphal. People who eat crap continue to eat it. As one commenter said, what's the problem?<br>
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            <title>Comment #12 by typetive</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:44:45 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Confectioners can already make this product</strong></p><p>The point is that the candy companies are already permitted to make this product that contains substitute vegetable fats. They are just not allowed to call it chocolate.</p><p>
So what they're asking the FDA is to put one over on the consumer. If you read the petition, it says that we've formed no expections. So if we haven't, why don't we buy cheaper quasi chocolate instead? </p><p>
Fake chocolate is also over-modified. There are too many emulsifiers and different sources for the ingredients. The simpler the product, ultimately the better in most cases. Not only nutritionally, but most people prefer it taste-wise. </p><p>
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				<p><strong>Confectioners can already make this product</strong></p><p>The point is that the candy companies are already permitted to make this product that contains substitute vegetable fats. They are just not allowed to call it chocolate.</p><p>
So what they're asking the FDA is to put one over on the consumer. If you read the petition, it says that we've formed no expections. So if we haven't, why don't we buy cheaper quasi chocolate instead? </p><p>
Fake chocolate is also over-modified. There are too many emulsifiers and different sources for the ingredients. The simpler the product, ultimately the better in most cases. Not only nutritionally, but most people prefer it taste-wise. </p><p>
I'm not advocating anything more than leave standards the way they are. </p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by Tom Philpott</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 03:38:03 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Thanks, typetive<p>Sure, let the market decide, but let people make decisions based on good information. Chocolate = &nbsp;cocoa butter +c ocoa liquor/ Replace the first element with veggie oil, and what you have isn't chocolat. 

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				<p><strong>Thanks, typetive<p>Sure, let the market decide, but let people make decisions based on good information. Chocolate = &nbsp;cocoa butter +c ocoa liquor/ Replace the first element with veggie oil, and what you have isn't chocolat. 

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            <title>Comment #14 by natureguru</title>
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				<p><strong>Organic and fair trade are the way to go<p>Like so many products that the FDA has "endorsed", chocolate will be no different. Consumers who care need to educate themselves, as there are companies out there that engage in slave-free, sustainable practices. For a partial list, visit <a href="http://www.organic-nature-news.com/organic-chocolate.html" rel="nofollow">organic &nbsp;chocolate weblink.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Organic and fair trade are the way to go<p>Like so many products that the FDA has "endorsed", chocolate will be no different. Consumers who care need to educate themselves, as there are companies out there that engage in slave-free, sustainable practices. For a partial list, visit <a href="http://www.organic-nature-news.com/organic-chocolate.html" rel="nofollow">organic &nbsp;chocolate weblink.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Fair Trade is not expensive for farmers, who's who</strong></p><p>Two items:<br>
First - Amano was wrong, or at least misleading, when they said "it costs significant amounts of money for the farmers to become fair-trade certified". As a company who imports and sells at least 500,000 pounds of Fair Trade Certified cocoa/chocolate a year we at Equal Exchange can attest that the Fair Trade system delivers real benefits for small-scale farmers. (All told we work with over 30 Fair Trade Certified farmer co-ops in 13 countries, and involving coffee, tea, cocoa, sugar, and rooibos.) While certification does take time (and could admittedly be streamlined) and requires a fee (just as with organic certification, but cheaper) to help cover the costs of the certification process the fee is dwarfed by the higher prices Fair Trade farmer co-ops receive. For example, thanks to the Fair Trade system in just the last 5 years our small company alone has paid farmers $8 million ABOVE the market price for their crops. See in that context the fees are irrelevant. </p><p>
Second - I thought it amusing to see the posting plugging Dagoba, as they are part of Hershey's. Assuming that the staff at Dagoba want to object to the FDA/Chocolate Manufacturer's effort to dilute the integrity of chocolate I wonder how'll they do it without running afoul of the Hersheys executives. Likewise, I wonder if Scharfenberger (also owned by Hersheys) will speak up on this issue.<br>
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				<p><strong>Fair Trade is not expensive for farmers, who's who</strong></p><p>Two items:<br>
First - Amano was wrong, or at least misleading, when they said "it costs significant amounts of money for the farmers to become fair-trade certified". As a company who imports and sells at least 500,000 pounds of Fair Trade Certified cocoa/chocolate a year we at Equal Exchange can attest that the Fair Trade system delivers real benefits for small-scale farmers. (All told we work with over 30 Fair Trade Certified farmer co-ops in 13 countries, and involving coffee, tea, cocoa, sugar, and rooibos.) While certification does take time (and could admittedly be streamlined) and requires a fee (just as with organic certification, but cheaper) to help cover the costs of the certification process the fee is dwarfed by the higher prices Fair Trade farmer co-ops receive. For example, thanks to the Fair Trade system in just the last 5 years our small company alone has paid farmers $8 million ABOVE the market price for their crops. See in that context the fees are irrelevant. </p><p>
Second - I thought it amusing to see the posting plugging Dagoba, as they are part of Hershey's. Assuming that the staff at Dagoba want to object to the FDA/Chocolate Manufacturer's effort to dilute the integrity of chocolate I wonder how'll they do it without running afoul of the Hersheys executives. Likewise, I wonder if Scharfenberger (also owned by Hersheys) will speak up on this issue.<br>
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				<p><strong>Thanks, Rodney<p>I agree about the value of fair trade, especially the way Equal Exchange works with it. Ideally, there would be plenty of room in the market for operations like Equal Exchange as well as specialty businesses like Amano and Durham-based Counter Culture, which can make deals with individual farmers and coops, with and without certification. The goal is to give farmers a fair shake and pay them for quality, &nbsp;sustainability, and labor practices. Certifications can work toward that goal, but aren't the goal in and of themselves. <p>
To the list including Dagoba and Scharfenberger, once proud chocolate names now owned by transnationals, we can add Green &amp; Black, a venerable organic chocolate maker now owned by Cadbury. I doubt that these brands will ever adulterate with veggie oil, but they can be counted on to get by with minimum possible commitment to quality, sustainability, and labor justice. To hell with them, too. <p>
Can someone post a list of independent fair trade, organic, and/or socially conscious chocolate brands? 

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				<p><strong>Thanks, Rodney<p>I agree about the value of fair trade, especially the way Equal Exchange works with it. Ideally, there would be plenty of room in the market for operations like Equal Exchange as well as specialty businesses like Amano and Durham-based Counter Culture, which can make deals with individual farmers and coops, with and without certification. The goal is to give farmers a fair shake and pay them for quality, &nbsp;sustainability, and labor practices. Certifications can work toward that goal, but aren't the goal in and of themselves. <p>
To the list including Dagoba and Scharfenberger, once proud chocolate names now owned by transnationals, we can add Green &amp; Black, a venerable organic chocolate maker now owned by Cadbury. I doubt that these brands will ever adulterate with veggie oil, but they can be counted on to get by with minimum possible commitment to quality, sustainability, and labor justice. To hell with them, too. <p>
Can someone post a list of independent fair trade, organic, and/or socially conscious chocolate brands? 

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            <title>Comment #17 by typetive</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:59:46 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>this is not a complete list</strong></p><p>This is just a list of products I've tried and enjoyed. I'm sure other folks have found other brands and can add to the list. </p><p>
Fair Trade chocolate manufacturers available in the US:</p><p>
Equal Exchange Chocolate - Organic &amp; Fair Trade (made in Switzerland)<br>
Divine Chocolate - Fair Trade (made in the UK)<br>
Endangered Species - some ethically traded products, some organic (made in the US)<br>
Terra Nostra - fair trade and organic (made in Canada &amp; Switzerland)<br>
Theo Chocolate - Fair Trade and organic (made in US)</p><p>
When picking a chocolate product fair trade is usually best, but when choices are limited organic is also a good choice as it is grown more sustainably and the farmers are paid a premium. </br></br></br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>this is not a complete list</strong></p><p>This is just a list of products I've tried and enjoyed. I'm sure other folks have found other brands and can add to the list. </p><p>
Fair Trade chocolate manufacturers available in the US:</p><p>
Equal Exchange Chocolate - Organic &amp; Fair Trade (made in Switzerland)<br>
Divine Chocolate - Fair Trade (made in the UK)<br>
Endangered Species - some ethically traded products, some organic (made in the US)<br>
Terra Nostra - fair trade and organic (made in Canada &amp; Switzerland)<br>
Theo Chocolate - Fair Trade and organic (made in US)</p><p>
When picking a chocolate product fair trade is usually best, but when choices are limited organic is also a good choice as it is grown more sustainably and the farmers are paid a premium. </br></br></br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #18 by Rodney North</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:36:55 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>some more independent/enlightened chocolate brands</strong></p><p>To the list I'd add:</p><p>
Cocoa Camino (a Canadian worker co-op): 100% organic &amp; Fair Trade</p><p>
Art Bar (by Ithaca Fine Chocolates):organic, Fair Trade</p><p>
Sweet Earth Organics (made in California): organic, Fair Trade</p><p>
Shaman Chocolates: some?all? Fair Trade</p><p>
Omanhene Cocoa Bean Company (made in Ghana)- good people, but I don't know the details.</p>
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				<p><strong>some more independent/enlightened chocolate brands</strong></p><p>To the list I'd add:</p><p>
Cocoa Camino (a Canadian worker co-op): 100% organic &amp; Fair Trade</p><p>
Art Bar (by Ithaca Fine Chocolates):organic, Fair Trade</p><p>
Sweet Earth Organics (made in California): organic, Fair Trade</p><p>
Shaman Chocolates: some?all? Fair Trade</p><p>
Omanhene Cocoa Bean Company (made in Ghana)- good people, but I don't know the details.</p>
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            <title>Comment #19 by GreenEngineer</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:15:47 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Guittard leads the charge!<p><a href="http://dontmesswithourchocolate.guittard.com" rel="nofollow">Don't mess with our chocolate.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Guittard leads the charge!<p><a href="http://dontmesswithourchocolate.guittard.com" rel="nofollow">Don't mess with our chocolate.</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #20 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 01:57:01 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Answer: Buy Good Chocolate<p><br>
Even the safeway now features some great imported chocolate bars from Switzerland, and that's all I buy.<p>
I like to have a bit of nice chocolate after dinner, just a few squares.<p>
Also, if there are kids in the house, it would be much better to give them a good $2 bar of imported chocolate than an artificial American candy bar.<br>


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				<p><strong>Answer: Buy Good Chocolate<p><br>
Even the safeway now features some great imported chocolate bars from Switzerland, and that's all I buy.<p>
I like to have a bit of nice chocolate after dinner, just a few squares.<p>
Also, if there are kids in the house, it would be much better to give them a good $2 bar of imported chocolate than an artificial American candy bar.<br>


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            <title>Comment #21 by amc89</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 03:37:10 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Vegan and Organic<p>This is one of my favorites. Its grown in Hawaii and is organic and free of animal products:<p>
<a href="http://www.veganchocolate.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.veganchocolate.com</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Vegan and Organic<p>This is one of my favorites. Its grown in Hawaii and is organic and free of animal products:<p>
<a href="http://www.veganchocolate.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.veganchocolate.com</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #22 by radrerun</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 05:26:48 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Here's a list from Transfair USA<p>Transfair is the fair trade certifier for the US (duh).<p>
<a href="http://www.transfairusa.org/content/certification/licensees2.php#cocoa" rel="nofollow">http://www.transfairusa.org/content/certification/license ...<p>
Scroll down a little over halfways down the page to "Chocolate Licensees"</p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Here's a list from Transfair USA<p>Transfair is the fair trade certifier for the US (duh).<p>
<a href="http://www.transfairusa.org/content/certification/licensees2.php#cocoa" rel="nofollow">http://www.transfairusa.org/content/certification/license ...<p>
Scroll down a little over halfways down the page to "Chocolate Licensees"</p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #23 by dhwert</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 06:55:08 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>To hell with them?<p>Tom, you dismiss Dagoba, Scharffen Berger, and Green &amp; Black's rather easily. &nbsp;I am fully aware of the issue of small, pure, and righteous <strong>independent companies <a href="http://www.msu.edu/~howardp/infographics.html" rel="nofollow"> being purchased  by transnational corporations. &nbsp;But do you really say, "to hell with them" about all of those companies -- which include Ben &amp; Jerry's, Stonyfield, Boca, Walnut Acres, Seeds of Change, Emerald Valley Kitchen, etc.?<p>
Being bought by a transnational corporation may mean going over to the dark side (but I'm not convinced), but what it definitely means is that these businesses are <strong>successful. &nbsp;Is that really such a terrible thing? &nbsp;Would we rather have green businesses that are unsuccessful and unprofitable? &nbsp;How would that help, exactly?<p>
This purist attitude strikes me a little like the "greens-eat-their-own" tendency that David Roberts was critiquing recently. &nbsp;I guess your vehement dismissal surprised me.<p>
Full disclosure: I like Dagoba, a relatively local product here in Oregon, and Green &amp; Black's (not local) quite a lot. &nbsp;I also like Divine and Endangered Species.<p>
Dave</p></p></p></strong></p></a></strong></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>To hell with them?<p>Tom, you dismiss Dagoba, Scharffen Berger, and Green &amp; Black's rather easily. &nbsp;I am fully aware of the issue of small, pure, and righteous <strong>independent companies <a href="http://www.msu.edu/~howardp/infographics.html" rel="nofollow"> being purchased  by transnational corporations. &nbsp;But do you really say, "to hell with them" about all of those companies -- which include Ben &amp; Jerry's, Stonyfield, Boca, Walnut Acres, Seeds of Change, Emerald Valley Kitchen, etc.?<p>
Being bought by a transnational corporation may mean going over to the dark side (but I'm not convinced), but what it definitely means is that these businesses are <strong>successful. &nbsp;Is that really such a terrible thing? &nbsp;Would we rather have green businesses that are unsuccessful and unprofitable? &nbsp;How would that help, exactly?<p>
This purist attitude strikes me a little like the "greens-eat-their-own" tendency that David Roberts was critiquing recently. &nbsp;I guess your vehement dismissal surprised me.<p>
Full disclosure: I like Dagoba, a relatively local product here in Oregon, and Green &amp; Black's (not local) quite a lot. &nbsp;I also like Divine and Endangered Species.<p>
Dave</p></p></p></strong></p></a></strong></p></strong></p>
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