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            <title>Comment #1 by David Roberts</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/biofuelwatch-is-not-happy-with-what-it-sees/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:20:22 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Looks like Europe ...<p>... is catching the <a href="/story/2007/1/12/151559/034" rel="nofollow">URGE2!<p>
(Sorry, I'm new at this sloganeering business.)

<p>www.grist.org</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Looks like Europe ...<p>... is catching the <a href="/story/2007/1/12/151559/034" rel="nofollow">URGE2!<p>
(Sorry, I'm new at this sloganeering business.)

<p>www.grist.org</p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Benny Big Eye</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/biofuelwatch-is-not-happy-with-what-it-sees/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:29:41 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Biofuels are the new hype...for a couple of years</strong></p><p>Then people will realize that they still release greenhouse gases (although the other pollutants are probably lower) and they will drive up the prices of food commodities.</p><p>
Then we'll get serious about alternative energy and conservation.

<p>Benny Big Eye</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Biofuels are the new hype...for a couple of years</strong></p><p>Then people will realize that they still release greenhouse gases (although the other pollutants are probably lower) and they will drive up the prices of food commodities.</p><p>
Then we'll get serious about alternative energy and conservation.

<p>Benny Big Eye</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:50:45 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Plugin hybrids</strong></p><p>Let's hope plugin hybrids accelerate that realization Benny. &nbsp;It looks like the plugin war is heating up. &nbsp;Even GM and bonnie prince duuhbya are making noises about plugins.</p><p>
Can Toyota and Honda be held back from mass production of plugins much longer? &nbsp;I doubt it, because other smaller companies are threatening to produce them.</p><p>
Plugins will drop oil prices precipitously, and with the main oPEC members caught in a new middle east regional conflict they will need to maximize production. &nbsp;</p><p>
If US forces are withdrawn from Iraq, the sunnis will commence wide scale war over the region with the shiia. &nbsp;that means Saudis and Iran will be more desperate than ever for cash to fund their war efforts.</p><p>
This drop in oil will surely kill fuel farming. But I doubt it would kill plugins. &nbsp;</p><p>
Why? Because consumers do not trust that low oil prices will continue and plugins will pay there own way in gas savings even at 2 bucks a gallon. Also it will be very patriotic to buy plugins in order to get the US off of it's oil and resulting oil war addiction. </p><p>
Fuel farmed gas will be the same price as oil derived gas saving no money for consumers.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Plugin hybrids</strong></p><p>Let's hope plugin hybrids accelerate that realization Benny. &nbsp;It looks like the plugin war is heating up. &nbsp;Even GM and bonnie prince duuhbya are making noises about plugins.</p><p>
Can Toyota and Honda be held back from mass production of plugins much longer? &nbsp;I doubt it, because other smaller companies are threatening to produce them.</p><p>
Plugins will drop oil prices precipitously, and with the main oPEC members caught in a new middle east regional conflict they will need to maximize production. &nbsp;</p><p>
If US forces are withdrawn from Iraq, the sunnis will commence wide scale war over the region with the shiia. &nbsp;that means Saudis and Iran will be more desperate than ever for cash to fund their war efforts.</p><p>
This drop in oil will surely kill fuel farming. But I doubt it would kill plugins. &nbsp;</p><p>
Why? Because consumers do not trust that low oil prices will continue and plugins will pay there own way in gas savings even at 2 bucks a gallon. Also it will be very patriotic to buy plugins in order to get the US off of it's oil and resulting oil war addiction. </p><p>
Fuel farmed gas will be the same price as oil derived gas saving no money for consumers.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by andrewboswell</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/biofuelwatch-is-not-happy-with-what-it-sees/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:31:28 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Update from biofuelwatch - now over 150 NGOs have<p>Over 150 NGOs have now signed the biofuelwatch letter indicating that they are not happy either with the EU biofuels directive. <p>
See: <a href="http://www.biofuelwatch.org.uk/2007Jan31-signatures.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.biofuelwatch.org.uk/2007Jan31-signatures.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">http://www.biofuelwatch.org.uk/2007Jan31-signatures.html< ...<p>
The EU Biofuels directive puts 20 Million hectares of rainforest in Indonesia at extreme risk. &nbsp;If destroyed, and its associated peat land is drained, this could release 50 Billion tonnes of carbon - the equivalent of 6 years of current levels of carbon emissions. &nbsp;When added to current extremely high levels of global fossil fuel emissions, it could take the planet over a climate tipping point. <p>
Andrew Boswell, biofuelwatch</p></p></a></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Update from biofuelwatch - now over 150 NGOs have<p>Over 150 NGOs have now signed the biofuelwatch letter indicating that they are not happy either with the EU biofuels directive. <p>
See: <a href="http://www.biofuelwatch.org.uk/2007Jan31-signatures.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.biofuelwatch.org.uk/2007Jan31-signatures.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">http://www.biofuelwatch.org.uk/2007Jan31-signatures.html< ...<p>
The EU Biofuels directive puts 20 Million hectares of rainforest in Indonesia at extreme risk. &nbsp;If destroyed, and its associated peat land is drained, this could release 50 Billion tonnes of carbon - the equivalent of 6 years of current levels of carbon emissions. &nbsp;When added to current extremely high levels of global fossil fuel emissions, it could take the planet over a climate tipping point. <p>
Andrew Boswell, biofuelwatch</p></p></a></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by Biodiversivist</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/biofuelwatch-is-not-happy-with-what-it-sees/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:34:05 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Maybe Grist should consider<p>adding its name to that list?

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Maybe Grist should consider<p>adding its name to that list?

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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