In January, a grand jury indicted a Missouri businessman in the discharge [of glycerin], which killed at least 25,000 fish and wiped out the population of fat pocketbook mussels, an endangered species.

Oh my God. Wiped out an "entire population" of an endangered species. Go biodiesel!

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From the NYT:
Glycerin, an alcohol that is normally nontoxic, can be sold for secondary uses, but it must be cleaned first, a process that is expensive and complicated. Expanded production of biodiesel has flooded the market with excess glycerin, making it less cost-effective to clean and sell.

And as Biod points out above, glycerin kills fish.

Ms. Tippett Mosby did not have to wait long to see the problem. In October, an anonymous caller reported that a tanker truck was dumping milky white goop into Belle Fountain Ditch, one of the many man-made channels that drain Missouri's Bootheel region. That substance turned out to be glycerin from a biodiesel plant.

In January, a grand jury indicted a Missouri businessman in the discharge, which killed at least 25,000 fish and wiped out the population of fat pocketbook mussels, an endangered species.

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Paint the whole industry with malfeasance for the bad habits of some, if you like, but there's no excuse for dumping this stuff. Glycerin has those noted secondary uses and can be probably be burned for power, too, or digested to capture fuel-worthy gas.

These cases likely represent poor decisions on the part of middle managers that are now looking for alternative employment.

Erik

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"Paint the whole industry with malfeasance for the bad habits of some, if you like ..."

Are you talking about just the biodiesel industry, or the entire liquid fuel industry?

When a captain runs his oil tanker aground and damages miles of coastline with crude oil, it gets reported by the press and his company gets fined. That captain is just a middle manager.

I don't see why one producer of a liquid fuel that is destroying the environment should be treated differently from another.

If we are going to treat the oil industry with malfeasance just because one of its middle managers runs a tanker aground, we are obligated to do the same for biodiesel. If not, then we should also be defending the oil industry, blaming its transgressions on the bad decisions of middle managers as well.

We all know that glycerin has other uses. But when the value of a byproduct drops so low that it's cheaper to dump it than sell it, given the chance, some refiners will dump it. The only thing stopping them are laws and the enforcement of those laws.

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"I don't see why one producer of a liquid fuel that is destroying the environment should be treated differently from another."

That's cuz it doesn't fit your agenda to acknowledge that some biofuel producers just might be more responsible than others. Your biofuel arguments just seek to demonize. Reminds me of the war on terror.

Erik

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are also more responsible than others. How often do you see a contributor on Grist take the time, energy, and print space to point out something that obvious while critiquing the fossil fuel industry?

Malfeasance and demonic are strong choices of words. Nobody else has chosen to use such strong language to describe the actions of these refiners. But now that you mention it, they may be appropriate when you consider that this refiner wiped out an entire population of an endangered species. No big deal, bunch of stupid clams.

The two guys who popped in on previous posts who spent so much time and energy trying to defend the biofuel ethanol used that word "agenda" dozens of times. The most common use of the word is per this definiton:

program of things to be done; specif., a list of things to be dealt with at a meeting

But they were using it in an attempt to paint their debate partners as being deceptive and dishonest, biased, as per this less common use of the word:

an underlying personal viewpoint or bias
an underlying often ideological plan or program

They meant "hidden agenda" but dropped the word hidden knowing that it was still implied. Bias is inherent in any debate position. Both of these guys have ethanol websites and were profiting, or hoping to profit from ethanol.

I've never attempted to paint a debate partner as being dishonest with that word. I already know that we all have subconcious bias. I emphasize the strength of argument over accusations of hidden agendas.

Let me turn it around on you for a minute. What's your agenda? To sugarcoat the destruction of the biosphere by biofuels? And to what end? So you can keep that biodiesel sticker on your bumper?

Tom's post sheds light on two common biofuel misconceptions:

Biofuel spills are harmless.
Biofuel refiners are defenders of nature

and links to a study about the dead zone--about to get worse thanks to biofuels.

I understand that you are trying to use biodiesel made from waste grease, and I support your use of that fuel, but here you continue to defend biofuels in general. I don't really think you are dishonest, you are simply biased, like every other human being. Accusing a debate partner of bias is always case of a pot calling a kettle black.

Your war on terror analogy went over my head. You're suggesting terrorists should not be demonized or were you somehow trying to tie my critique of biofuels to Bush, who, by the way, has become a big supporter of biofuels?

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