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            <title>Comment #1 by 2wheeler</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/beyond-the-bail/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:20:33 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Tell it, Joe</strong></p><p>Detroit's Medium Two (as exemplified by Dingle, their beholden intervenor) have been so retrograde and ostrich-like for so long that they are as morally bankrupt as the now departing W administration. &nbsp;Their actions have been directly counter to the short and long term interests of their workers and of the American People who would love to buy domestic built sustainable vehicles-- as well as to the interests of the health of our planet. &nbsp; </p><p>
Case in point, remember the Focus Hybrid (1999)-- never produced for sale while Honda and Toyota sold hundreds of thousands of their awesome hybrids. &nbsp;A green roof on a pickup truck factory does not a sustainable corporation make (Ford). &nbsp;So much potential during the 90's was squandered by GM and Ford in the last decade.</p><p>
For their pure ineptitude, fiddling and resisting, the management of these corporations needs a wholesale ticket to the door. &nbsp;Any "bailout" must 1.) rescue the workers and 2.) convert the assets into a new automaking enterprise based solidly on a green, forward looking business model of R&amp;D and decisionmaking for eco-sustainability. &nbsp;The Volt concept must be translated into a fleet of hybrids like Toyota's coming offerings. &nbsp;These companies painted themselves into the corner they now find themselves in.</p><p>
My family has bought only hybrids since 2000, because it's no time to sit and wait any longer. &nbsp;

<p>Moving toward sustainability with hopefulness, one revolution at a time.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Tell it, Joe</strong></p><p>Detroit's Medium Two (as exemplified by Dingle, their beholden intervenor) have been so retrograde and ostrich-like for so long that they are as morally bankrupt as the now departing W administration. &nbsp;Their actions have been directly counter to the short and long term interests of their workers and of the American People who would love to buy domestic built sustainable vehicles-- as well as to the interests of the health of our planet. &nbsp; </p><p>
Case in point, remember the Focus Hybrid (1999)-- never produced for sale while Honda and Toyota sold hundreds of thousands of their awesome hybrids. &nbsp;A green roof on a pickup truck factory does not a sustainable corporation make (Ford). &nbsp;So much potential during the 90's was squandered by GM and Ford in the last decade.</p><p>
For their pure ineptitude, fiddling and resisting, the management of these corporations needs a wholesale ticket to the door. &nbsp;Any "bailout" must 1.) rescue the workers and 2.) convert the assets into a new automaking enterprise based solidly on a green, forward looking business model of R&amp;D and decisionmaking for eco-sustainability. &nbsp;The Volt concept must be translated into a fleet of hybrids like Toyota's coming offerings. &nbsp;These companies painted themselves into the corner they now find themselves in.</p><p>
My family has bought only hybrids since 2000, because it's no time to sit and wait any longer. &nbsp;

<p>Moving toward sustainability with hopefulness, one revolution at a time.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by nplab</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/beyond-the-bail/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:22:52 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>two birds</strong></p><p>Why not use the bail-out to accomplish our energy independence, transportation and green jobs goals? &nbsp;Turn them into transportation companies, not car companies. &nbsp;They're great at mass producing things. &nbsp;Start with plug-in hybrids and high mileage vehicles, but transition to passenger train cars and engines, light rail cars, bullet train systems, etc. &nbsp;They all have wheels, suspension and traction systems. Why limit their product base?</p><p>
nplab</p>
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				<p><strong>two birds</strong></p><p>Why not use the bail-out to accomplish our energy independence, transportation and green jobs goals? &nbsp;Turn them into transportation companies, not car companies. &nbsp;They're great at mass producing things. &nbsp;Start with plug-in hybrids and high mileage vehicles, but transition to passenger train cars and engines, light rail cars, bullet train systems, etc. &nbsp;They all have wheels, suspension and traction systems. Why limit their product base?</p><p>
nplab</p>
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