<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for At least one member of Congress realizes the size of the problem.]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by MikeCapone http://www.grist.org/article/bartlett-on-peak-oil/ Tue, 03 May 2005 07:08:22 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bartlett-on-peak-oil/1 Green Car Congress

Glad you guys interviewed Mike Milkin. I'm the one who suggested his name (or maybe others did too?) and I've been a big fan of his website for a while.

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SUVs are squared-out minivans.

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Glad you guys interviewed Mike Milkin. I'm the one who suggested his name (or maybe others did too?) and I've been a big fan of his website for a while.

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SUVs are squared-out minivans.

]]> Comment #2 by ronniehoresh http://www.grist.org/article/bartlett-on-peak-oil/ Tue, 03 May 2005 19:15:42 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bartlett-on-peak-oil/2 Subsidies for big oil

If we're going to get through this crisis period without an awful lot of pain, we're going to have to have the equivalent of a Manhattan-like Project.

Yes well it's you guys, the politicians, who have subsidised oil extraction and oil consumption. It's you who've brought about this crisis. And your response? Another top-down, governnment-led, think big programme. Yeah, that's bound to work.

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If we're going to get through this crisis period without an awful lot of pain, we're going to have to have the equivalent of a Manhattan-like Project.

Yes well it's you guys, the politicians, who have subsidised oil extraction and oil consumption. It's you who've brought about this crisis. And your response? Another top-down, governnment-led, think big programme. Yeah, that's bound to work.

]]> Comment #3 by Thomas Palm http://www.grist.org/article/bartlett-on-peak-oil/ Tue, 03 May 2005 20:19:16 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bartlett-on-peak-oil/3 Voting Record

The interview was interesting, but as a foreigner I know nothing about Bartlett so I did a little search:
http://www.issues2000.org/House/Roscoe_Bartlett_Energy_+_Oil.htm

Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels.
Voted NO on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol

Seems odd, doesn't it, if he really worries about running out of oil.



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The interview was interesting, but as a foreigner I know nothing about Bartlett so I did a little search:
http://www.issues2000.org/House/Roscoe_Bartlett_Energy_+_Oil.htm

Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels.
Voted NO on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol

Seems odd, doesn't it, if he really worries about running out of oil.



]]> Comment #4 by dgreene369 http://www.grist.org/article/bartlett-on-peak-oil/ Wed, 04 May 2005 02:15:32 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bartlett-on-peak-oil/4 Remember the 70s and 80s

President Carter took more of an active-government approach and his administration was marked by energy disruption.

Reagan let the markets do their thing (the opposite of a Manhattan project), and things calmed down nicely.

I'm curious what you all think of Peter Huber's book "Bottomless Well". I haven't read it yet, but was impressed when I saw him on C-SPAN.

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President Carter took more of an active-government approach and his administration was marked by energy disruption.

Reagan let the markets do their thing (the opposite of a Manhattan project), and things calmed down nicely.

I'm curious what you all think of Peter Huber's book "Bottomless Well". I haven't read it yet, but was impressed when I saw him on C-SPAN.

]]> Comment #5 by Thomas Palm http://www.grist.org/article/bartlett-on-peak-oil/ Wed, 04 May 2005 05:05:04 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bartlett-on-peak-oil/5 Oil prices

dgreene369, USA may be important, but it doesn't control oil totally. The oil crisis of the 70s was caused by OPEC decisions, not whether or not USA used a market approach.

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dgreene369, USA may be important, but it doesn't control oil totally. The oil crisis of the 70s was caused by OPEC decisions, not whether or not USA used a market approach.

]]> Comment #6 by jdhlax http://www.grist.org/article/bartlett-on-peak-oil/ Thu, 05 May 2005 12:46:57 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/bartlett-on-peak-oil/6 The Real Crisis & Real Pain

"If we're going to get through this crisis period without an awful lot of pain, we're going to have to have the equivalent of a Manhattan-like Project."

Excuse me, but the crisis here is that humans are extracting, transporting, refining, and burning oil, not that it might run out or be hard to extract some day.  Significant pain has been felt by the Earth, air, water, plants, and non-human animals since oil extraction began.  Human crybabies complaining about the possibility of oil running out make me either laugh or angry, depending on what mood I'm in.

Jeff Hoffman

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"If we're going to get through this crisis period without an awful lot of pain, we're going to have to have the equivalent of a Manhattan-like Project."

Excuse me, but the crisis here is that humans are extracting, transporting, refining, and burning oil, not that it might run out or be hard to extract some day.  Significant pain has been felt by the Earth, air, water, plants, and non-human animals since oil extraction began.  Human crybabies complaining about the possibility of oil running out make me either laugh or angry, depending on what mood I'm in.

Jeff Hoffman

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