Do you really think that campaign pledges of 100% auction mean anything?

Other than an effort to get primary votes?

Even if sincere, how would a 100% auction bill pass the Congress?

pitiful

do nothing, then.  stay pure

how "weak" is Lieberman bill compared to the alternative

get your head out of . . . the sand

...They've been runnin' ads in the borders of Grist for this.

At this point, I'd say any climate legislation would be hard to get through.  Bush would veto, and we'd need enough votes to override.  And I doubt we'd have enough currently to do such a thing.

With that in mind, if we could somehow manage to pass a piece of legislation, I'd say take it.  Anythin' is better than nothin' at this point.  We can try and strengthen it later with additional fixes/legislation.

Now, if we suddenly find ourselves in a favorable political climate (i.e. we have the pres., and overwhelming majority of Congress), then we can take a little time to try and hamper out the best deal possible.

But we're not in that poltical climate, and we may not be even after the elections, so I say take what we can get now.

But in the end, it's probably all mute, since we probably won't be able to get anything at all just now.

A blank canvas is certainly a lot easier to create form than fiddling with one that's already got something on it.

Considering the gravity of this, I think we can wait 10 months, longer for a bill which will last atleast 10 years.

the point is to have a canvass to build upon

make people declare themselves

get them on record

start the serious process

otherwise, the pols are free to dance, and they will stay free

nothing focuses a pol like a vote, and considering what it will mean in the next election