<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Only cyclists and walkers remain calm]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by plum http://www.grist.org/article/as-flooding-cripples-new-york-city-transit-system/ Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:16:30 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/as-flooding-cripples-new-york-city-transit-system/1 Yes, but did Mike...

... have a wet line up his bum?

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... have a wet line up his bum?

]]> Comment #2 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/as-flooding-cripples-new-york-city-transit-system/ Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:03:29 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/as-flooding-cripples-new-york-city-transit-system/2 Washed Up Siblings


My sister Carole was starting a new job on Wednesday and had to travel from L.I. to Hunt's Point...couldn't make it and had to turn back.

My brother Paul was stuck commuting from CT to Manhattan on the the trains and it took him -- 7 hours!

If you want to know why the subways flood, check out this vid on Fora TV:

"Alan Weisman on The World Without Us"
http://fora.tv/fora/showthread.php?t=1413

Manhattan was originally hilly, but they were all plowed down.  But their were about 20 rivers that were buried...and they still flow, underground.   Which is why the subway has to maintain pumps to eliminate the water.   If they were switched off, the whole thing would flood (or if they get overwhelmed by additional water from rain).

Guess the hurricanes are lessening though:

"Forecasters see less active 2007 hurricane season"
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSWAT007989 ...

This is to be expected as temperatures increase but also normalize across different zones.

John Bailo
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My sister Carole was starting a new job on Wednesday and had to travel from L.I. to Hunt's Point...couldn't make it and had to turn back.

My brother Paul was stuck commuting from CT to Manhattan on the the trains and it took him -- 7 hours!

If you want to know why the subways flood, check out this vid on Fora TV:

"Alan Weisman on The World Without Us"
http://fora.tv/fora/showthread.php?t=1413

Manhattan was originally hilly, but they were all plowed down.  But their were about 20 rivers that were buried...and they still flow, underground.   Which is why the subway has to maintain pumps to eliminate the water.   If they were switched off, the whole thing would flood (or if they get overwhelmed by additional water from rain).

Guess the hurricanes are lessening though:

"Forecasters see less active 2007 hurricane season"
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSWAT007989 ...

This is to be expected as temperatures increase but also normalize across different zones.

John Bailo
Supratext:





]]> Comment #3 by wiscidea http://www.grist.org/article/as-flooding-cripples-new-york-city-transit-system/ Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:14:31 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/as-flooding-cripples-new-york-city-transit-system/3 one disadvantage of mass transit

Elected officials not willing to spend enough money  to make a system sufficiently robust that it can handle unusual events... or even usual events. Saving tax dollars by building minimal infrastructure. Someone has to eventually pay for it. Why don't they do it right the first time. I hate Republicans.

That said... this is a clear demonstration of one of the advantages of not relying on public transportation. One glitch and everyone suffers. Better to have efficient and reliable personal transport. Far more flexible, able to adapt to changing conditions over decades.

Why would anyone think it is a good idea to build a system that's default value is to be filled with water??!!! Requires a constant input of energy to maintain it, even when it isn't moving people!

Forward!

]]> one disadvantage of mass transit

Elected officials not willing to spend enough money  to make a system sufficiently robust that it can handle unusual events... or even usual events. Saving tax dollars by building minimal infrastructure. Someone has to eventually pay for it. Why don't they do it right the first time. I hate Republicans.

That said... this is a clear demonstration of one of the advantages of not relying on public transportation. One glitch and everyone suffers. Better to have efficient and reliable personal transport. Far more flexible, able to adapt to changing conditions over decades.

Why would anyone think it is a good idea to build a system that's default value is to be filled with water??!!! Requires a constant input of energy to maintain it, even when it isn't moving people!

Forward!

]]> Comment #4 by Nucbuddy http://www.grist.org/article/as-flooding-cripples-new-york-city-transit-system/ Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:19:35 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/as-flooding-cripples-new-york-city-transit-system/4 Virtual presence vs. the $20,000/year commute

I would imagine that these commuters did not experience any commute problems.

Approximately 34 percent of CIOs whose companies allow telecommuting cited improved retention and morale through enhanced work-life balance as the greatest benefit. Increased productivity due to reduced commute time was cited by 28 percent of respondents.

]]> Virtual presence vs. the $20,000/year commute

I would imagine that these commuters did not experience any commute problems.

Approximately 34 percent of CIOs whose companies allow telecommuting cited improved retention and morale through enhanced work-life balance as the greatest benefit. Increased productivity due to reduced commute time was cited by 28 percent of respondents.

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