<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for NRO’s media critic waxes moronic about my Salon piece]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by georgia http://www.grist.org/article/are-all-national-review-bloggers-libelous-incapable-of-rational-discourse/ Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:24:46 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/are-all-national-review-bloggers-libelous-incapable-of-rational-discourse/1 Worthless chatter

Mr Romm, in your article you stated: "Indeed, failure to replace the Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012, would put the entire world back on the path of unrestricted greenhouse gas emissions, which will lead to a warming of up to 6 degrees centigrade, a rapid rise in sea level, widespread desertification and countless other devastating impacts."

Maybe you could refer to some scientific studies that back up your claims, because recent observations do not support your statement.  Sea level has actually fallen since 2005 as ocean temperatures have slightly declined, temperature peaked in 1998 and is falling as predicted by many climate scientists studying the sun, and where are the devastating impacts that can be pinned to higher CO2 levels.

I would suggest you read chapter 5 of the latest IPC report on sea level rise.  Any objective reading of this chapter easily reveals that there are so many uncertainties stated in the report that their conclusions are not supported by their own report.  And still, each IPCC report has smaller SLR predictions than the previous report.

Your side keeps referring to a tipping point as the rationale for immediate action.  However, the current economic downturn will do more to reduce CO2 emissions (not that they are harmful in any way) than any ridiculous cap and trade or carbon tax system, until they lead to a more severe economic downturn of course.

Look at the results of other cap and trade systems.  Europe's system is doing nothing but hurting their citizens.  Investments into wind with massive government subsodies have failed.  Their CO2 emissions have grown faster than in the US since Kyoto.

Maybe you could produce for me a list of climate scientists that agree with your premise.  It probably wouldn't be longer than 100 names.  Sorry -  you can't include politicians and social scientists!  Did you know more than 83% of meteorologists think AGW is bunk?  Did you know that no survey of scientists has never shown a majority share your view.  Yet you and others spout a consensus when clearly none exists.  

Why should the public support your economy-killing policies without at least knowing which scientists to blame down the road?  

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Mr Romm, in your article you stated: "Indeed, failure to replace the Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012, would put the entire world back on the path of unrestricted greenhouse gas emissions, which will lead to a warming of up to 6 degrees centigrade, a rapid rise in sea level, widespread desertification and countless other devastating impacts."

Maybe you could refer to some scientific studies that back up your claims, because recent observations do not support your statement.  Sea level has actually fallen since 2005 as ocean temperatures have slightly declined, temperature peaked in 1998 and is falling as predicted by many climate scientists studying the sun, and where are the devastating impacts that can be pinned to higher CO2 levels.

I would suggest you read chapter 5 of the latest IPC report on sea level rise.  Any objective reading of this chapter easily reveals that there are so many uncertainties stated in the report that their conclusions are not supported by their own report.  And still, each IPCC report has smaller SLR predictions than the previous report.

Your side keeps referring to a tipping point as the rationale for immediate action.  However, the current economic downturn will do more to reduce CO2 emissions (not that they are harmful in any way) than any ridiculous cap and trade or carbon tax system, until they lead to a more severe economic downturn of course.

Look at the results of other cap and trade systems.  Europe's system is doing nothing but hurting their citizens.  Investments into wind with massive government subsodies have failed.  Their CO2 emissions have grown faster than in the US since Kyoto.

Maybe you could produce for me a list of climate scientists that agree with your premise.  It probably wouldn't be longer than 100 names.  Sorry -  you can't include politicians and social scientists!  Did you know more than 83% of meteorologists think AGW is bunk?  Did you know that no survey of scientists has never shown a majority share your view.  Yet you and others spout a consensus when clearly none exists.  

Why should the public support your economy-killing policies without at least knowing which scientists to blame down the road?  

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