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            <title>Comment #1 by bookerly</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:57:17 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>War is also a diversion</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;If we want to stop global warming, we need to look not only at what individuals need to do, but also at what institutions need to do. &nbsp;One of the biggest polluters world wide is the US military. &nbsp;And does anything think that they are concerned about global warming?</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;The money we have spent on destroying one country, Iraq (and we should say so far, since neither the destruction nor the spending shows any sign of abating) could have converted the US to sustainable energy (by the estimates of those opposed to the idea) AND helped a lot of the developing countries make the conversion as well.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Folly. &nbsp;Folly.</p><p>
patrick</br></p>
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				<p><strong>War is also a diversion</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;If we want to stop global warming, we need to look not only at what individuals need to do, but also at what institutions need to do. &nbsp;One of the biggest polluters world wide is the US military. &nbsp;And does anything think that they are concerned about global warming?</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;The money we have spent on destroying one country, Iraq (and we should say so far, since neither the destruction nor the spending shows any sign of abating) could have converted the US to sustainable energy (by the estimates of those opposed to the idea) AND helped a lot of the developing countries make the conversion as well.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Folly. &nbsp;Folly.</p><p>
patrick</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by caniscandida</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/an-environmental-toll-to-war/</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:48:34 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Mediterranean wildlife</strong></p><p>Well, at least the NYTimes quoted an environmentalist, and the environmentalist made mention of the local population of green sea turtles (like Florida's Little Crush!), who it seems were laying their eggs on the beaches of Lebanon and Syria in July, and whose nesting sites are now seriously polluted.</p><p>
My professional life is basically in the Mediterranean -- in liberal-arts stuff, true, not in science -- and it amazes me how vulnerable, and apparently doomed, the marine life is, on the one hand, but clearly doing their best to show themselves to be resilient, on the other. &nbsp;They need all the help they can get.</p><p>
And it would be helpful if people would stop fighting wars in their neighborhood.</p><p>
(And it goes without saying, that would be helpful for the people too.)</p><p>
Dicit Patricius: "Folly. &nbsp;Folly." &nbsp;No truer Chinese fortune cookie have I ever read.</p><p>
Historical note: The Phoenicians, i.e. the ancient Lebanese, made the richest, most luxurious dye for textiles known to the ancient world, i.e. purple, from a small bunch of gastropods, Muraena spp., &nbsp;found off their coast. &nbsp;One wonders if any of those little conches are still left.</p>
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				<p><strong>Mediterranean wildlife</strong></p><p>Well, at least the NYTimes quoted an environmentalist, and the environmentalist made mention of the local population of green sea turtles (like Florida's Little Crush!), who it seems were laying their eggs on the beaches of Lebanon and Syria in July, and whose nesting sites are now seriously polluted.</p><p>
My professional life is basically in the Mediterranean -- in liberal-arts stuff, true, not in science -- and it amazes me how vulnerable, and apparently doomed, the marine life is, on the one hand, but clearly doing their best to show themselves to be resilient, on the other. &nbsp;They need all the help they can get.</p><p>
And it would be helpful if people would stop fighting wars in their neighborhood.</p><p>
(And it goes without saying, that would be helpful for the people too.)</p><p>
Dicit Patricius: "Folly. &nbsp;Folly." &nbsp;No truer Chinese fortune cookie have I ever read.</p><p>
Historical note: The Phoenicians, i.e. the ancient Lebanese, made the richest, most luxurious dye for textiles known to the ancient world, i.e. purple, from a small bunch of gastropods, Muraena spp., &nbsp;found off their coast. &nbsp;One wonders if any of those little conches are still left.</p>
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