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            <title>Comment #1 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:46:09 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>High Costs</strong></p><p><br>
Amtrak is very expensive -- as is all rail travel commuter and inter city. &nbsp; People who live in the Metro area of New York spend hundreds of dollars per month on rail -- even with subsidies!</p><p>
It's a much better architecture to continue sprawl and to move jobs to where people want to live rather than snake high cost, high maintenance rail around the county.</br></p>
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				<p><strong>High Costs</strong></p><p><br>
Amtrak is very expensive -- as is all rail travel commuter and inter city. &nbsp; People who live in the Metro area of New York spend hundreds of dollars per month on rail -- even with subsidies!</p><p>
It's a much better architecture to continue sprawl and to move jobs to where people want to live rather than snake high cost, high maintenance rail around the county.</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Caroline</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:18:48 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Interesting comment, jbailo.</strong></p><p>"It's a much better architecture to continue sprawl and to move jobs to where people want to live rather than snake high cost, high maintenance rail around the county."</p><p>
Just how would you go about persuading big business (especially resource and raw-materials based Big Bisiness)to move into places where people want to live? It's my experience of &nbsp;that where people live is irrelevant to big business most of the time- they have other concerns such as the cost of extracting and shipping raw materials, finished goods, etc.</p><p>
Rail has always suffered in comparison to other modes of transport. If you look at moving people, a road network is far more flexible for short trips. For long trips, air is faster. North America has relatively slow-moving trains, which doesn't help Amtrak. High-speed trains in areas like Europe and Asia fare far better as people-movers becasue distances are shorter and travel times much reduced. For moving anything other than people, however, rail is relatively cheap. It's also a heck of a lot "greener" than air. &nbsp;It's only real competitor is water transport. Seen any canal barges lately? The horse-drawn kind, I mean.</p>
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				<p><strong>Interesting comment, jbailo.</strong></p><p>"It's a much better architecture to continue sprawl and to move jobs to where people want to live rather than snake high cost, high maintenance rail around the county."</p><p>
Just how would you go about persuading big business (especially resource and raw-materials based Big Bisiness)to move into places where people want to live? It's my experience of &nbsp;that where people live is irrelevant to big business most of the time- they have other concerns such as the cost of extracting and shipping raw materials, finished goods, etc.</p><p>
Rail has always suffered in comparison to other modes of transport. If you look at moving people, a road network is far more flexible for short trips. For long trips, air is faster. North America has relatively slow-moving trains, which doesn't help Amtrak. High-speed trains in areas like Europe and Asia fare far better as people-movers becasue distances are shorter and travel times much reduced. For moving anything other than people, however, rail is relatively cheap. It's also a heck of a lot "greener" than air. &nbsp;It's only real competitor is water transport. Seen any canal barges lately? The horse-drawn kind, I mean.</p>
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