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            <title>Comment #1 by Biodiversivist</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/adm-high-fructose-corn-syrup-and-ethanol/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 04:54:19 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>That is some good writing there.<p>"If the tariff ends, Brazilian ethanol swamps the U.S. market.."<p>
Some politicians and car manufacturers are claiming that we need biofuel to lead us to oil independence, while others are calling for an end to tariffs on biofuels. What is the diff between petroleum based oil and vegetable oil in that respect? Not all South American countries love us, and those that do, may not for long, especially if we decide to protect our supply of sugarcane-based ethanol by "stabilizing" the region.<p>
And if the tariffs don't come down, we will all pay more for that fuel as a result through our taxes (subsidies) and at the pump. The government is getting itself into a bind with subsidy after subsidy and tariff after tariff. The free market is being turned on its ear to everyone's eventual detriment. I just hope they don't slap tariffs on Japanese cars to help our sagging car industry because the American made one I drive and the one I rented on my recent trip are both pieces of shit. Sorry to digress so.<br>


<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Help acquire and protect ecological hotspots, give to a conservation organization: <a href="http://www.saveourbiodiversity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.saveourbiodiversity.com</a></p></br></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>That is some good writing there.<p>"If the tariff ends, Brazilian ethanol swamps the U.S. market.."<p>
Some politicians and car manufacturers are claiming that we need biofuel to lead us to oil independence, while others are calling for an end to tariffs on biofuels. What is the diff between petroleum based oil and vegetable oil in that respect? Not all South American countries love us, and those that do, may not for long, especially if we decide to protect our supply of sugarcane-based ethanol by "stabilizing" the region.<p>
And if the tariffs don't come down, we will all pay more for that fuel as a result through our taxes (subsidies) and at the pump. The government is getting itself into a bind with subsidy after subsidy and tariff after tariff. The free market is being turned on its ear to everyone's eventual detriment. I just hope they don't slap tariffs on Japanese cars to help our sagging car industry because the American made one I drive and the one I rented on my recent trip are both pieces of shit. Sorry to digress so.<br>


<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. Help acquire and protect ecological hotspots, give to a conservation organization: <a href="http://www.saveourbiodiversity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.saveourbiodiversity.com</a></p></br></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by CowsEatGrass</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/adm-high-fructose-corn-syrup-and-ethanol/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 03:25:53 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Genius...</strong></p><p>Besides being a great piece of reporting and putting together some disparate pieces to create new understanding, this post reinforces something I've been noting more and more.</p><p>
I'm fascinated and filled with hope by the increasing discussions of 1) Agriculture, 2) (truly) Free Markets, 3) Human Health and, 4) Environmental Protection all at the same time.</p><p>
While these have always been tied up with each other, it seems that a number of current issues, including biofuels, agricultural subsidies, and the organic food boom, have crystallized these to some extent for a wider audience.</p>
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				<p><strong>Genius...</strong></p><p>Besides being a great piece of reporting and putting together some disparate pieces to create new understanding, this post reinforces something I've been noting more and more.</p><p>
I'm fascinated and filled with hope by the increasing discussions of 1) Agriculture, 2) (truly) Free Markets, 3) Human Health and, 4) Environmental Protection all at the same time.</p><p>
While these have always been tied up with each other, it seems that a number of current issues, including biofuels, agricultural subsidies, and the organic food boom, have crystallized these to some extent for a wider audience.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by fructose</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/adm-high-fructose-corn-syrup-and-ethanol/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:13:54 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>fructose<p>Check out this introduction article on Fructose:<br>
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				<p><strong>fructose<p>Check out this introduction article on Fructose:<br>
<a href="http://www.articleworld.org/index.php/Fructose" rel="nofollow">Fructose</a></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Michael</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:07:14 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>More Market Factors</strong></p><p>Thou hast no right but to do thy Will.</p><p>
It's worth adding that, of course, the cost to ADM (and, from them, to HFCS users) is also being driven up by the surge in corn prices, driven by the irresponsible (corn) ethanol mandate, the aforementioned tarif on the more sustainable Brazilian sugar-cane ethanol, and the high price of a barrel of oil, which is actually enough to move Brazilian (and other) drivers with flex-fuel vehicles to switch from petrol to ethanol on pure cost considerations ...</p><p>
Love is the law, love under will.</p>
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				<p><strong>More Market Factors</strong></p><p>Thou hast no right but to do thy Will.</p><p>
It's worth adding that, of course, the cost to ADM (and, from them, to HFCS users) is also being driven up by the surge in corn prices, driven by the irresponsible (corn) ethanol mandate, the aforementioned tarif on the more sustainable Brazilian sugar-cane ethanol, and the high price of a barrel of oil, which is actually enough to move Brazilian (and other) drivers with flex-fuel vehicles to switch from petrol to ethanol on pure cost considerations ...</p><p>
Love is the law, love under will.</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by naturescene</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/adm-high-fructose-corn-syrup-and-ethanol/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:53:40 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Strange</strong></p><p>The history of America and sugar is long and troubled. &nbsp;Your thesis is very interesting and this story is a great example of how government restrictions on trade have actually created the conditions for ADM to gain monopolistic power.</p><p>
In the search for oil substitutes, the debate over "independence" and protectionism as opposed to trade is renewing itself.<br>
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				<p><strong>Strange</strong></p><p>The history of America and sugar is long and troubled. &nbsp;Your thesis is very interesting and this story is a great example of how government restrictions on trade have actually created the conditions for ADM to gain monopolistic power.</p><p>
In the search for oil substitutes, the debate over "independence" and protectionism as opposed to trade is renewing itself.<br>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Ron Steenblik</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:30:24 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Graph of sugar prices<p>Click <a href="http://www.fao.org/es/esc/prices/CIWPQueryServlet" rel="nofollow">here to see a graph of the average weekly international (i.e., pre-tariff) price of sugar (I.S.A.), in U.S. cents per pound, over the past two years. Once at the site, click on "sugar" and then "summary" to see a graph.<p>
Having risen sharply at the end of 2005, and peaking at around 18.4&#162;/lb in early February 2006 (not shown on the current graph), it fell over the following year and stayed at around 10&#162;/lb throughout most of 2007. Lately it has been rising, and during the last week of February averaged 14.4&#162;/lb.<p>
A trend is a trend is a trend. <br>
The question is where will it bend?

<p>These are only my personal opinions.</p></br></p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Graph of sugar prices<p>Click <a href="http://www.fao.org/es/esc/prices/CIWPQueryServlet" rel="nofollow">here to see a graph of the average weekly international (i.e., pre-tariff) price of sugar (I.S.A.), in U.S. cents per pound, over the past two years. Once at the site, click on "sugar" and then "summary" to see a graph.<p>
Having risen sharply at the end of 2005, and peaking at around 18.4&#162;/lb in early February 2006 (not shown on the current graph), it fell over the following year and stayed at around 10&#162;/lb throughout most of 2007. Lately it has been rising, and during the last week of February averaged 14.4&#162;/lb.<p>
A trend is a trend is a trend. <br>
The question is where will it bend?

<p>These are only my personal opinions.</p></br></p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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