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            <title>Comment #1 by sindark</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:35:09 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Subsidies<p>"Is there not something shameful in the role that the protectionist makes society play?<p>
He says to society:<p>
"You must give me work, and, what is more, lucrative work. I have foolishly chosen an industry that leaves me with a loss of ten per cent. If you slap a tax of twenty francs on my fellow citizens and excuse me from paying it, my loss will be converted into a profit. Now, profit is a right; you owe it to me."<p>
The society that listens to this sophist, that will levy taxes on itself to satisfy him, that does not perceive that the loss wiped out in one industry is no less a loss because others are forced to shoulder it -- this society, I say, deserves the burden placed upon it.<p>
Thus, we see, from the many subjects I have dealt with, that not to know political economy is to allow oneself to be dazzled by the immediate effect of a phenomenon; to know political economy is to take into account the sum total of all effects, both immediate and future."<p>
-<a href="http://www.econlib.org/library/Bastiat/BasEss1.html" rel="nofollow">Fr&#233;d&#233;ric Bastiat, 1850

<p><a href="http://www.sindark.com/wiki/index.php?title=Major_climate_change_issues" rel="nofollow">a sibilant intake of breath</a></p></a></p></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Subsidies<p>"Is there not something shameful in the role that the protectionist makes society play?<p>
He says to society:<p>
"You must give me work, and, what is more, lucrative work. I have foolishly chosen an industry that leaves me with a loss of ten per cent. If you slap a tax of twenty francs on my fellow citizens and excuse me from paying it, my loss will be converted into a profit. Now, profit is a right; you owe it to me."<p>
The society that listens to this sophist, that will levy taxes on itself to satisfy him, that does not perceive that the loss wiped out in one industry is no less a loss because others are forced to shoulder it -- this society, I say, deserves the burden placed upon it.<p>
Thus, we see, from the many subjects I have dealt with, that not to know political economy is to allow oneself to be dazzled by the immediate effect of a phenomenon; to know political economy is to take into account the sum total of all effects, both immediate and future."<p>
-<a href="http://www.econlib.org/library/Bastiat/BasEss1.html" rel="nofollow">Fr&#233;d&#233;ric Bastiat, 1850

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            <title>Comment #2 by Tasermons Partner</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:31:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Bring it on...</strong></p><p>...they're spendin' 40 million to advertise for coal.</p><p>
We've (Gore) got 300 million to advertise against it.</p><p>
Bring it on!</p>
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				<p><strong>Bring it on...</strong></p><p>...they're spendin' 40 million to advertise for coal.</p><p>
We've (Gore) got 300 million to advertise against it.</p><p>
Bring it on!</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Jo2</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:41:03 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>ACCCE really stands for ...</strong></p><p>American Corporations for a Climate Crisis Emergency</p>
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				<p><strong>ACCCE really stands for ...</strong></p><p>American Corporations for a Climate Crisis Emergency</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by farnishk</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:10:40 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>No Shit<p>Blimey, that was quick. I guess we freaked them out:<p>
<a href="http://thesietch.org/mysietch/keith/2008/03/21/americans-for-balanced-energy-choices-belching-lies-about-coal/" rel="nofollow">http://thesietch.org/mysietch/keith/2008/03/21/americans- ...<p>
<a href="http://www.americascoalpower.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.americascoalpower.org/<p>
But it's ok for the coal industry, the <a href="http://www.nature.org/joinanddonate/corporatepartnerships/about/" rel="nofollow">Nature Conservancy has partnered with American Electric Power who are 73% coal-fired, so coal must be ok (or maybe the Nature Conservacy are also a bunch of hypocrites).

<p>Keith Farnish
<a href="http://www.theearthblog.org" rel="nofollow">www.theearthblog.org</a></p></a></p></a></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>No Shit<p>Blimey, that was quick. I guess we freaked them out:<p>
<a href="http://thesietch.org/mysietch/keith/2008/03/21/americans-for-balanced-energy-choices-belching-lies-about-coal/" rel="nofollow">http://thesietch.org/mysietch/keith/2008/03/21/americans- ...<p>
<a href="http://www.americascoalpower.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.americascoalpower.org/<p>
But it's ok for the coal industry, the <a href="http://www.nature.org/joinanddonate/corporatepartnerships/about/" rel="nofollow">Nature Conservancy has partnered with American Electric Power who are 73% coal-fired, so coal must be ok (or maybe the Nature Conservacy are also a bunch of hypocrites).

<p>Keith Farnish
<a href="http://www.theearthblog.org" rel="nofollow">www.theearthblog.org</a></p></a></p></a></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by davdABEC</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:00:55 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Not just a name change<p>Why are you trying to deceive people?<p>
Concentrating on the name change, as you do, glosses over the REAL news about the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity: <p>
For the first time, we have over 40 coal-related companies agreeing to federal regulation of carbon dioxide, provided our 12 principles are met. <p>
And for the cynical among you, those principles are available for anyone to see. <p>
(See the PDF link on this page: <a href="http://www.cleancoalusa.org/docs/beyond/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cleancoalusa.org/docs/beyond/ )</a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Not just a name change<p>Why are you trying to deceive people?<p>
Concentrating on the name change, as you do, glosses over the REAL news about the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity: <p>
For the first time, we have over 40 coal-related companies agreeing to federal regulation of carbon dioxide, provided our 12 principles are met. <p>
And for the cynical among you, those principles are available for anyone to see. <p>
(See the PDF link on this page: <a href="http://www.cleancoalusa.org/docs/beyond/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cleancoalusa.org/docs/beyond/ )</a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by RFKactionfront</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:07:37 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>A great development!<p>I think it's a good sign that the coal lobby had to change the name of their front group. &nbsp;It tells us that the environmental movement has so completely damaged the coal industry's brand, that they had to run and hide their identity again. Which is pretty incredible when you remember that ABEC spent $35 million a year promoting their brand.<p>
The coal lobby's new video is so ripe for parody that I can't wait to get started on remaking it. Here's the video I did in response to the coal lobby's previous ad:<p>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PPxYCDKVec" rel="nofollow">Solar Kicks Coal's Ass #2, Funny</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>A great development!<p>I think it's a good sign that the coal lobby had to change the name of their front group. &nbsp;It tells us that the environmental movement has so completely damaged the coal industry's brand, that they had to run and hide their identity again. Which is pretty incredible when you remember that ABEC spent $35 million a year promoting their brand.<p>
The coal lobby's new video is so ripe for parody that I can't wait to get started on remaking it. Here's the video I did in response to the coal lobby's previous ad:<p>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PPxYCDKVec" rel="nofollow">Solar Kicks Coal's Ass #2, Funny</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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