<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Bogs, not oceans, may have been the source of an increase in atmospheric methane]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Sam Wells http://www.grist.org/article/a-methane-feedback-from-the-past-strikes-again/ Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:58:30 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/a-methane-feedback-from-the-past-strikes-again/1 bogs, please explain

I'm a swamp Yankee growed up in Connecticut and whew, the methane and sulfide was intense at low tide.  Sometimes the methane would glow at night, the stuff of ghost stories.  

I know bogs on the East Coast, and fooled with some that was mud you could dry and cook like cheap sucky charcoal, like bricks. Heck man, there's even "quaking bogs." I think you're talking about some arctic permafrost, which might be totally different.  Maybe I need some more education here.

Love to hear more on the subject. Seems different.

Onward through the fog

]]> bogs, please explain

I'm a swamp Yankee growed up in Connecticut and whew, the methane and sulfide was intense at low tide.  Sometimes the methane would glow at night, the stuff of ghost stories.  

I know bogs on the East Coast, and fooled with some that was mud you could dry and cook like cheap sucky charcoal, like bricks. Heck man, there's even "quaking bogs." I think you're talking about some arctic permafrost, which might be totally different.  Maybe I need some more education here.

Love to hear more on the subject. Seems different.

Onward through the fog

]]> Comment #2 by Pangolin http://www.grist.org/article/a-methane-feedback-from-the-past-strikes-again/ Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:22:12 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/a-methane-feedback-from-the-past-strikes-again/2 Muskeg, Peat, Permafrost......

There are huge areas of cold climate bogs that are heating up.


Peat bogs harbour carbon time bomb- New Scientist.

Peat bogs are a vast natural reservoir of organic carbon. By one estimate, the bogs of Europe, Siberia and North America hold the equivalent of 70 years of global industrial emissions. But concern is growing that such bogs are releasing ever more of their carbon into rivers in the form of dissolved organic carbon (DOC).

Think of it as a massive compost pile that's just waiting to release all of it's stored, wet, frozen carbon as methane just as soon as it gets one really warm, dry, summer.

If that 70 years of industrial emissions figure isn't giving you an "oh shit moment" right now you are deluded or on serious medication. If those bogs warm up a good portion of the human race could just as well call in dead for all the good curly light bulbs are going to do them.

Put the Carbon Back


]]> Muskeg, Peat, Permafrost......

There are huge areas of cold climate bogs that are heating up.


Peat bogs harbour carbon time bomb- New Scientist.

Peat bogs are a vast natural reservoir of organic carbon. By one estimate, the bogs of Europe, Siberia and North America hold the equivalent of 70 years of global industrial emissions. But concern is growing that such bogs are releasing ever more of their carbon into rivers in the form of dissolved organic carbon (DOC).

Think of it as a massive compost pile that's just waiting to release all of it's stored, wet, frozen carbon as methane just as soon as it gets one really warm, dry, summer.

If that 70 years of industrial emissions figure isn't giving you an "oh shit moment" right now you are deluded or on serious medication. If those bogs warm up a good portion of the human race could just as well call in dead for all the good curly light bulbs are going to do them.

Put the Carbon Back


]]> Comment #3 by Delay And Deny http://www.grist.org/article/a-methane-feedback-from-the-past-strikes-again/ Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:58:27 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/a-methane-feedback-from-the-past-strikes-again/3 Overestimating Man


Typical, typical.

Theories always overestimate Man.

From the time of the Geocentric theory (putting Earth at the center of the Universe...sheesh) right down to AGW, people always think "We" have something to do with it.

Get some perspective...melting permafrost and bogs are more powerful than Jaguar XJ6's when it comes to greenhouse gases.

Policy?  Get some lounge chairs and tanning butter and enjoy the endless summer.

John Bailo
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]]> Overestimating Man


Typical, typical.

Theories always overestimate Man.

From the time of the Geocentric theory (putting Earth at the center of the Universe...sheesh) right down to AGW, people always think "We" have something to do with it.

Get some perspective...melting permafrost and bogs are more powerful than Jaguar XJ6's when it comes to greenhouse gases.

Policy?  Get some lounge chairs and tanning butter and enjoy the endless summer.

John Bailo
Sutext:



]]> Comment #4 by Earth Shaman http://www.grist.org/article/a-methane-feedback-from-the-past-strikes-again/ Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:46:00 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/a-methane-feedback-from-the-past-strikes-again/4 Time

Earth Service says that 28 thousand ago,the grid revv from the system explosion created the first stock of oil on the planet from all of the plants turning to a goo at the oven temperature over 200 degrees on the planet.Oil(Petroleum) is vegetable oil,it just is.Most of that oil is sour by now. !14 thousand ago,that system explosion remnant field came back,(On the round) That is our sweeter oil.The core evidence and other evidence of warming and cooling periods timing is wrong on the Neo-science side.Old papas know the proper science and timing,I assure you.And you know 28,then 14 and now is a progression for you science buffs to ponder and process what I have shared on this Blog and others about the grid revv we are experiencing now that is causing our warming.Simple,really. And those of you who poo poo the Mayan calendar information on the timing of cycles that ends in 2012 should reassess your statements.But I fear that you will insist we ruin our economy and allow our"fearless Leaders" to spend their time worrying about things they cannot change and not worrying about things they should. BUSINESS AS USUAL. This old "papa" also says you do have a choice,if you assert it.

Earth Shaman

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Earth Service says that 28 thousand ago,the grid revv from the system explosion created the first stock of oil on the planet from all of the plants turning to a goo at the oven temperature over 200 degrees on the planet.Oil(Petroleum) is vegetable oil,it just is.Most of that oil is sour by now. !14 thousand ago,that system explosion remnant field came back,(On the round) That is our sweeter oil.The core evidence and other evidence of warming and cooling periods timing is wrong on the Neo-science side.Old papas know the proper science and timing,I assure you.And you know 28,then 14 and now is a progression for you science buffs to ponder and process what I have shared on this Blog and others about the grid revv we are experiencing now that is causing our warming.Simple,really. And those of you who poo poo the Mayan calendar information on the timing of cycles that ends in 2012 should reassess your statements.But I fear that you will insist we ruin our economy and allow our"fearless Leaders" to spend their time worrying about things they cannot change and not worrying about things they should. BUSINESS AS USUAL. This old "papa" also says you do have a choice,if you assert it.

Earth Shaman

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