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            <title>Comment #1 by Pangolin</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/a-green-wave-lifts-all-boats/</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:10:10 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Upgrade rental units first.<p>What most people don't know is that 40% of California's population rents their housing. Averaged, these are the buildings with the most inefficient and wasteful appliances, lighting and heating and cooling systems. <p>
All rental housing should be subject to periodic energy audits and financial vehicles should allow utilities to upgrade rental units to geo-exchange heating, cooling and hot water supplies. All rental units should be weatherized within 5 years or they should be denied utility hook-ups. <p>
Thirty year old air conditioners, fifteen year old refrigerators, single pane windows, and ancient water heaters are all common features of rental properties. Far more energy could be saved on a unit-per-unit basis refitting rental properties than owner occupied buildings. <p>
If green means everyone it has to have a vehicle to upgrade rental properties. 

<p><a href="http://putcarbonback.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Put  the Carbon Back</a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Upgrade rental units first.<p>What most people don't know is that 40% of California's population rents their housing. Averaged, these are the buildings with the most inefficient and wasteful appliances, lighting and heating and cooling systems. <p>
All rental housing should be subject to periodic energy audits and financial vehicles should allow utilities to upgrade rental units to geo-exchange heating, cooling and hot water supplies. All rental units should be weatherized within 5 years or they should be denied utility hook-ups. <p>
Thirty year old air conditioners, fifteen year old refrigerators, single pane windows, and ancient water heaters are all common features of rental properties. Far more energy could be saved on a unit-per-unit basis refitting rental properties than owner occupied buildings. <p>
If green means everyone it has to have a vehicle to upgrade rental properties. 

<p><a href="http://putcarbonback.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Put  the Carbon Back</a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by bookerly</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/a-green-wave-lifts-all-boats/</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:38:12 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Time is Now</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;When I lived in SF, Van Jones was already known for the depth and broadness of vision, not to say his clarity. &nbsp;A good man to speak truth to power. &nbsp;I have the greatest admiration for him. &nbsp;Thanks to Grist (and Anna) for keeping him front and center in discussions about moving forward.</p><p>
patrick in beijing</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Time is Now</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;When I lived in SF, Van Jones was already known for the depth and broadness of vision, not to say his clarity. &nbsp;A good man to speak truth to power. &nbsp;I have the greatest admiration for him. &nbsp;Thanks to Grist (and Anna) for keeping him front and center in discussions about moving forward.</p><p>
patrick in beijing</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by ksteiger</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:43:03 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Van Jones Speaks<p>Van Jones does a great job of talking about how a green economy makes a lot of sense. Read more about it in Van Jones' own <a href="http://campusprogress.org/5mw/2114/van-jones" rel="nofollow">words over at Campus Progress, where we sat him down for five minutes. He talked about how civil rights is great inspiration for environmental justice.</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Van Jones Speaks<p>Van Jones does a great job of talking about how a green economy makes a lot of sense. Read more about it in Van Jones' own <a href="http://campusprogress.org/5mw/2114/van-jones" rel="nofollow">words over at Campus Progress, where we sat him down for five minutes. He talked about how civil rights is great inspiration for environmental justice.</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by stephanieh</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:47:55 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Green productivity<p>I love the title: a green wave lifts all boats! And it's probably time to look at more free-market solutions to poverty and environmental protection. I have a free download of a book on sustainable living at <a href="http://mommy.z-net.us" rel="nofollow">Mommy-Conomics, and it will be available soon at <a href="http://www.cleaning-green.net" rel="nofollow">Cleaning-Green.Net. It looks at overconsumption, how we got here, and what we can do to turn the tide. Job creation and productivity are key to a green economy's survival, and consumption levels need to be curbed. But, as always, it comes down to personal choice and education. -Steph</a></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Green productivity<p>I love the title: a green wave lifts all boats! And it's probably time to look at more free-market solutions to poverty and environmental protection. I have a free download of a book on sustainable living at <a href="http://mommy.z-net.us" rel="nofollow">Mommy-Conomics, and it will be available soon at <a href="http://www.cleaning-green.net" rel="nofollow">Cleaning-Green.Net. It looks at overconsumption, how we got here, and what we can do to turn the tide. Job creation and productivity are key to a green economy's survival, and consumption levels need to be curbed. But, as always, it comes down to personal choice and education. -Steph</a></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by stopgreenpath</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:36:28 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>please say this to the LADWP!!!!</strong></p><p>i couldn't agree more that cities like Los Angeles need a massive retrofit to local residential (and commercial) solar and wind WITHIN THE CITY, and that this will create an enormous moderately-skilled job base for the next 10 years.</p><p>
so why is LADWP outsourcing all their "renewable" energy, which will outsource all the jobs AND OUTSOURCE ALL THE DESTRUCTION to rural and wilderness areas??</p><p>
i BEG YOU to contact me so you can make a presentation to the LA City Council so that they will re-think this environmentally and economically destructive policy. &nbsp;part of the plan can be to lobby Citizen's Energy to subsidize the installation and maintenance of 1 million solar rooftops for low-income people within LA, instead of subsidizing death, increased poverty and environmental destruction via wind farms and solar arrays.</p><p>
we need a new paradigm, but Sierra Club, NRDC, Citizen's energy, Schwarzenneger, Villaraigosa, LADWP and others are racing to exploit and pillage wilderness, financially destroy rural residents, and deny the urban poor meaningful energy subsidies and jobs, while increasing their chokeholds over ratepayers, and while the McMansions gobble more and more "cheap" power with no incentives to conserve. &nbsp;the worst is that they have the audacity to call it "Green Path North."</p><p>
please help: &nbsp;www.stopgreenpath.com

<p>the greenest energy is that which you needn't ever produce.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>please say this to the LADWP!!!!</strong></p><p>i couldn't agree more that cities like Los Angeles need a massive retrofit to local residential (and commercial) solar and wind WITHIN THE CITY, and that this will create an enormous moderately-skilled job base for the next 10 years.</p><p>
so why is LADWP outsourcing all their "renewable" energy, which will outsource all the jobs AND OUTSOURCE ALL THE DESTRUCTION to rural and wilderness areas??</p><p>
i BEG YOU to contact me so you can make a presentation to the LA City Council so that they will re-think this environmentally and economically destructive policy. &nbsp;part of the plan can be to lobby Citizen's Energy to subsidize the installation and maintenance of 1 million solar rooftops for low-income people within LA, instead of subsidizing death, increased poverty and environmental destruction via wind farms and solar arrays.</p><p>
we need a new paradigm, but Sierra Club, NRDC, Citizen's energy, Schwarzenneger, Villaraigosa, LADWP and others are racing to exploit and pillage wilderness, financially destroy rural residents, and deny the urban poor meaningful energy subsidies and jobs, while increasing their chokeholds over ratepayers, and while the McMansions gobble more and more "cheap" power with no incentives to conserve. &nbsp;the worst is that they have the audacity to call it "Green Path North."</p><p>
please help: &nbsp;www.stopgreenpath.com

<p>the greenest energy is that which you needn't ever produce.</p></p>
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