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            <title>Comment #1 by Anna Haynes</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/a-done-diesel/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:39:26 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Gristmill website feedback<p>(Sorry - I know this is off topic, but don't see where else to deliver it)<p>
The silly headlines for the Gristmill posts are really getting on my nerves - plus they send the message to readers that climate change isn't something to take seriously.<p>
And the RSS feed at <a href="http://feeds.grist.org/grist/gristmill" rel="nofollow">http://feeds.grist.org/grist/gristmill<br>
(the one that the big orange 'rss' icon links to, on this page)<br>
is still showing the most recent post as being from Oct 9.<p>
Is there an email address for Gristmill website feedback, that works?</p></br></br></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Gristmill website feedback<p>(Sorry - I know this is off topic, but don't see where else to deliver it)<p>
The silly headlines for the Gristmill posts are really getting on my nerves - plus they send the message to readers that climate change isn't something to take seriously.<p>
And the RSS feed at <a href="http://feeds.grist.org/grist/gristmill" rel="nofollow">http://feeds.grist.org/grist/gristmill<br>
(the one that the big orange 'rss' icon links to, on this page)<br>
is still showing the most recent post as being from Oct 9.<p>
Is there an email address for Gristmill website feedback, that works?</p></br></br></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Anna Haynes</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/a-done-diesel/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:44:58 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>fyi, just noticed the gristmill email addr</strong></p><p>...i'm hoping it will work (nobody seems to be home, at (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
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				<p><strong>fyi, just noticed the gristmill email addr</strong></p><p>...i'm hoping it will work (nobody seems to be home, at (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
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            <title>Comment #3 by Erik Hoffner</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/a-done-diesel/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:11:47 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Anna:<p>"The silly headlines for the Gristmill posts are really getting on my nerves"<p>
What took you so long? <p>
About this car, sweet. With a tankful of waste vegetable oil biodiesel, even McCain could ride to victory...<p>
Erik

<p><a href="http://www.oriongrassroots.org" rel="nofollow">The Orion Grassroots Network: supporting grassroots groups working for conservation, justice, &amp; more
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				<p><strong>Anna:<p>"The silly headlines for the Gristmill posts are really getting on my nerves"<p>
What took you so long? <p>
About this car, sweet. With a tankful of waste vegetable oil biodiesel, even McCain could ride to victory...<p>
Erik

<p><a href="http://www.oriongrassroots.org" rel="nofollow">The Orion Grassroots Network: supporting grassroots groups working for conservation, justice, &amp; more
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            <title>Comment #4 by ahmednewenergy</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/a-done-diesel/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:42:35 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>The Karma is Better<p>This is pretty awesome. &nbsp;Still the greenest and best looking car I've seen in recent years is the Fisker Karma. &nbsp;UNBELIEVABLY COOL DESIGN! &nbsp;see: <p>
<a href="http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/fisker-opens-new-design-center-5147.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/fisker-opens-new-d ...<p>
and that's an American car. &nbsp;I say let the big three eat it. &nbsp;Let the new american companies emerge. &nbsp;</p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>The Karma is Better<p>This is pretty awesome. &nbsp;Still the greenest and best looking car I've seen in recent years is the Fisker Karma. &nbsp;UNBELIEVABLY COOL DESIGN! &nbsp;see: <p>
<a href="http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/fisker-opens-new-design-center-5147.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/fisker-opens-new-d ...<p>
and that's an American car. &nbsp;I say let the big three eat it. &nbsp;Let the new american companies emerge. &nbsp;</p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by kilgore trout</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/a-done-diesel/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:15:41 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>last year</strong></p><p>I can't take the "green" car awards seriously ever since they named the Chevy Tahoe green car of the year last year. 21 mpg city... ouch. Someone needs to tell these guys there are more than just a half dozen car companies on the planet.</p>
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				<p><strong>last year</strong></p><p>I can't take the "green" car awards seriously ever since they named the Chevy Tahoe green car of the year last year. 21 mpg city... ouch. Someone needs to tell these guys there are more than just a half dozen car companies on the planet.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Bob Wallace</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/a-done-diesel/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:04:57 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Green Tahoe...</strong></p><p>The Tahoe is a hybrid that gets 30% better mileage than the previous year non-hybrid version. &nbsp;That is a very significant improvement and a 'proof of concept' that will lead to hybrid versions of the rest of the fleet. &nbsp;Especially the large vehicle fleet.</p><p>
You might complain about the overall size of the Tahoe (and large pickups), but please realize that some people legitimately need big rigs. </p><p>
The complaint might be better aimed at people who buy big rigs when they could as easily use a smaller, more efficient vehicle....</p>
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				<p><strong>Green Tahoe...</strong></p><p>The Tahoe is a hybrid that gets 30% better mileage than the previous year non-hybrid version. &nbsp;That is a very significant improvement and a 'proof of concept' that will lead to hybrid versions of the rest of the fleet. &nbsp;Especially the large vehicle fleet.</p><p>
You might complain about the overall size of the Tahoe (and large pickups), but please realize that some people legitimately need big rigs. </p><p>
The complaint might be better aimed at people who buy big rigs when they could as easily use a smaller, more efficient vehicle....</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Delay And Deny</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/a-done-diesel/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:11:59 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Calling All B.S. Detectives: Whaddya Think?<p>I have always thought the ads and articles for "hydrogen generators" that people stick on their cars were borderline...but here's a guy who's a city engineer, the Chicago Tribune is reporting he's put them on a fire truck, bus, etc...<p>
Beloit tests hydrogen boosters to improve mileage<p>
The city of Beloit is installing hydrogen boosters on three of its vehicles to try to improve their gas mileage. <p>
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Department of Public Works fleet supervisor Dan Lutz says a hydrogen booster usually increases mileage by 20 percent and often by more than 50 percent.<p>
Lutz built a hydrogen booster for his 2004 Dodge Ram truck about six months ago. He says the truck's mileage <b>improved from about 11 miles per gallon to nearly 22 miles per gallon after the first 70-mile test trip.<p>
<a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-wi-hydrogen-cars,0,2938926.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-wi-hydrogen-car ...<br>
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				<p><strong>Calling All B.S. Detectives: Whaddya Think?<p>I have always thought the ads and articles for "hydrogen generators" that people stick on their cars were borderline...but here's a guy who's a city engineer, the Chicago Tribune is reporting he's put them on a fire truck, bus, etc...<p>
Beloit tests hydrogen boosters to improve mileage<p>
The city of Beloit is installing hydrogen boosters on three of its vehicles to try to improve their gas mileage. <p>
[...]<p>
Department of Public Works fleet supervisor Dan Lutz says a hydrogen booster usually increases mileage by 20 percent and often by more than 50 percent.<p>
Lutz built a hydrogen booster for his 2004 Dodge Ram truck about six months ago. He says the truck's mileage <b>improved from about 11 miles per gallon to nearly 22 miles per gallon after the first 70-mile test trip.<p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by christophersj</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/a-done-diesel/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:48:04 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Hydrogen booster</strong></p><p>What powers the electrolysis that made that hydrogen? &nbsp;Would a hybrid battery have been a more efficient use of that original electricity?</p><p>
I think, if anything, hydrogen may have a roll in heavy transport like planes and trains and big rigs, but not for cars and light trucks.</p><p>
Even T-Boone Pickens now admits batteries are best for cars and light trucks, with plug-in hybrids being the bridge.<br>
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				<p><strong>Hydrogen booster</strong></p><p>What powers the electrolysis that made that hydrogen? &nbsp;Would a hybrid battery have been a more efficient use of that original electricity?</p><p>
I think, if anything, hydrogen may have a roll in heavy transport like planes and trains and big rigs, but not for cars and light trucks.</p><p>
Even T-Boone Pickens now admits batteries are best for cars and light trucks, with plug-in hybrids being the bridge.<br>
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            <title>Comment #9 by christophersj</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/a-done-diesel/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:54:52 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>What about PRODUCTION of clean diesel?<p><br>
I just read an article that says low sulfur diesel uses 25% more CO2 to produce than gasoline:<p>
<a href="http://www.grinningplanet.com/2005/04-12/diesel-vs-gasoline-article.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.grinningplanet.com/2005/04-12/diesel-vs-gasoli ...<p>
So is it a wash? &nbsp;The diesel gets something like 30% more efficiency per gallon than gasoline?<p>
And how many stations have this fuel?<p>
Is this award misplaced because it doesn't include PRODUCTION of the fuel. &nbsp;Well to wheels, should be the measurement.</p></p></p></a></p></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>What about PRODUCTION of clean diesel?<p><br>
I just read an article that says low sulfur diesel uses 25% more CO2 to produce than gasoline:<p>
<a href="http://www.grinningplanet.com/2005/04-12/diesel-vs-gasoline-article.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.grinningplanet.com/2005/04-12/diesel-vs-gasoli ...<p>
So is it a wash? &nbsp;The diesel gets something like 30% more efficiency per gallon than gasoline?<p>
And how many stations have this fuel?<p>
Is this award misplaced because it doesn't include PRODUCTION of the fuel. &nbsp;Well to wheels, should be the measurement.</p></p></p></a></p></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by christophersj</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/a-done-diesel/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:56:24 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>AND...</strong></p><p>And the Ford Escape Hybrid still beats this VW in City MPG.</p>
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				<p><strong>AND...</strong></p><p>And the Ford Escape Hybrid still beats this VW in City MPG.</p>
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