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            <title>Comment #1 by stevenearlsalmony</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:40:44 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>intellectual fools?...miscreants?....posers?....<p>greed-mongers....con artists?... ideologues?..... minions for hoarders of even more stupendous amounts of wealth than they themselves possess?<p>
If President-Elect Barack Obama and the splendid team of intellectually honest and morally courageous science advisors he is assembling are not able to bring about necessary change, then I do not know where we are to find such vitally needed leadership.<p>
In some deep sense, President-Elect Obama and leaders in his new Administration are carrying the very future of children everywhere on their shoulders. They deserve our complete support.<p>
If only we could undo the earliest years of Century XXI so that they were not filled with a colossal fool's errand, catastrophic financial failures and ecological nightmares: an unnecessary and unjustifiable war; a collapsing economy; and a human-induced, recklessly degraded environment and relentlessly dissipated planetary home.<p>
The challenges before the human community now appear to be daunting, that is easy enough to see; nevertheless, I believe our children will behold a good-enough future. Between now and the time our children lead the world come the necessary changes, I suppose.<p>
Godspeed.<p>
Steven Earl Salmony<br>
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population,<br>
established 2001<br>
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				<p><strong>intellectual fools?...miscreants?....posers?....<p>greed-mongers....con artists?... ideologues?..... minions for hoarders of even more stupendous amounts of wealth than they themselves possess?<p>
If President-Elect Barack Obama and the splendid team of intellectually honest and morally courageous science advisors he is assembling are not able to bring about necessary change, then I do not know where we are to find such vitally needed leadership.<p>
In some deep sense, President-Elect Obama and leaders in his new Administration are carrying the very future of children everywhere on their shoulders. They deserve our complete support.<p>
If only we could undo the earliest years of Century XXI so that they were not filled with a colossal fool's errand, catastrophic financial failures and ecological nightmares: an unnecessary and unjustifiable war; a collapsing economy; and a human-induced, recklessly degraded environment and relentlessly dissipated planetary home.<p>
The challenges before the human community now appear to be daunting, that is easy enough to see; nevertheless, I believe our children will behold a good-enough future. Between now and the time our children lead the world come the necessary changes, I suppose.<p>
Godspeed.<p>
Steven Earl Salmony<br>
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population,<br>
established 2001<br>
<a href="http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1 ...<br>
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            <title>Comment #2 by biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:10:55 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Can I change my vote to Johnson?<p>How sad that the head of the EPA is a candidate for eco-villain on an environmental website!

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Can I change my vote to Johnson?<p>How sad that the head of the EPA is a candidate for eco-villain on an environmental website!

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by mtvyfan</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:39:24 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Where's Michael Taylor and George HW Bush??????</strong></p><p>These two are responsible for GMOs being unleashed on the American public and Taylor is responsible for Tom Vilsak!!!

<p>"For as long as space endures, and for as long as living beings remain, until then may I too abide, to dispel the misery of the world." - Shantideva</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Where's Michael Taylor and George HW Bush??????</strong></p><p>These two are responsible for GMOs being unleashed on the American public and Taylor is responsible for Tom Vilsak!!!

<p>"For as long as space endures, and for as long as living beings remain, until then may I too abide, to dispel the misery of the world." - Shantideva</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by roncastle</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:57:12 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Dubya is not an option?</strong></p><p>What has happened? &nbsp;All the Grist staff has already sent their brains on Christmas holiday?</p><p>
Dubya wins hands down.

<p>Cheers.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Dubya is not an option?</strong></p><p>What has happened? &nbsp;All the Grist staff has already sent their brains on Christmas holiday?</p><p>
Dubya wins hands down.

<p>Cheers.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by chesahn</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:56:29 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>eco-villain</strong></p><p>sly Dick Cheney should have been the #1 eco-villain of the century.</p>
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				<p><strong>eco-villain</strong></p><p>sly Dick Cheney should have been the #1 eco-villain of the century.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by paz</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:48:22 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I CANNOT BELIEVE</strong></p><p>that George W. did not make this list. &nbsp;</p>
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				<p><strong>I CANNOT BELIEVE</strong></p><p>that George W. did not make this list. &nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Sean Casten</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:37:13 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Is Sarah Palin really that bad?<p>I certainly don't agree with her, but how much damage did she cause? &nbsp;She ran, she said some stupid things and she lost. &nbsp;Back to Alaska she goes. &nbsp;As always, The Onion summed up her inconsequence <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/area_woman_becomes" rel="nofollow">perfectly.<p>
But does she really belong on a list with people like Johnson and Inhofe who are taking actions with global impact?</p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Is Sarah Palin really that bad?<p>I certainly don't agree with her, but how much damage did she cause? &nbsp;She ran, she said some stupid things and she lost. &nbsp;Back to Alaska she goes. &nbsp;As always, The Onion summed up her inconsequence <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/area_woman_becomes" rel="nofollow">perfectly.<p>
But does she really belong on a list with people like Johnson and Inhofe who are taking actions with global impact?</p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:58:17 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Sean's Onion link posted below:<p>Area Woman Becomes Republican Vice Presidential Candidate<p>
WASILLA, AK--In a dramatic capper to a year that already saw her son's hockey team go to district finals, a successful remodeling of the den, and her scoring of front-row tickets to a traveling production of the Broadway smash hit Les Mis&#233;rables, Wasilla resident and former beauty queen Sarah Palin, 44, was chosen as the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee. The mother of five, who enjoys attending church potluck dinners with husband Todd, an unemployed commercial fisherman, reportedly "jumped at the chance" to become the second most powerful person in the country. "Oh, what a nice thing for [GOP running mate] Sarah [Palin]," said Debbie McInnes, who met Palin two years ago at an advanced step aerobics class at the Wasilla YMCA. "She's such a good person, and so pretty! I think she'd be super-enthusiastic to take on that job." Although Palin ultimately never got the chance to come within a heartbeat of ruling a global superpower and its 300 million citizens, she said she was happy enough to have beaten out the other potential Republican VP candidates, including a Nebraska receptionist and a congresswoman from Ohio with more than 20 years of political experience.<br>


<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></br></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Sean's Onion link posted below:<p>Area Woman Becomes Republican Vice Presidential Candidate<p>
WASILLA, AK--In a dramatic capper to a year that already saw her son's hockey team go to district finals, a successful remodeling of the den, and her scoring of front-row tickets to a traveling production of the Broadway smash hit Les Mis&#233;rables, Wasilla resident and former beauty queen Sarah Palin, 44, was chosen as the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee. The mother of five, who enjoys attending church potluck dinners with husband Todd, an unemployed commercial fisherman, reportedly "jumped at the chance" to become the second most powerful person in the country. "Oh, what a nice thing for [GOP running mate] Sarah [Palin]," said Debbie McInnes, who met Palin two years ago at an advanced step aerobics class at the Wasilla YMCA. "She's such a good person, and so pretty! I think she'd be super-enthusiastic to take on that job." Although Palin ultimately never got the chance to come within a heartbeat of ruling a global superpower and its 300 million citizens, she said she was happy enough to have beaten out the other potential Republican VP candidates, including a Nebraska receptionist and a congresswoman from Ohio with more than 20 years of political experience.<br>


<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></br></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by Storm Dragon</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:23:55 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>We have met the enemy and....</strong></p><p>I was a little surprised to see that Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff didn't make the list. &nbsp;But then, perhaps I'm being a wee bit too hard on Mr. Chertoff. &nbsp;After all, it was Congress that gave him too much power in the first place. &nbsp;And Congress probably gave him that power because they thought that's what we wanted.</p><p>
If we want to save the birds, the beast, and the special wild places, &nbsp;we'll have to stop hating our fellow humans.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Merry Christmas! &nbsp;

<p>Let the jaguars return!</p></p>
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				<p><strong>We have met the enemy and....</strong></p><p>I was a little surprised to see that Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff didn't make the list. &nbsp;But then, perhaps I'm being a wee bit too hard on Mr. Chertoff. &nbsp;After all, it was Congress that gave him too much power in the first place. &nbsp;And Congress probably gave him that power because they thought that's what we wanted.</p><p>
If we want to save the birds, the beast, and the special wild places, &nbsp;we'll have to stop hating our fellow humans.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Merry Christmas! &nbsp;

<p>Let the jaguars return!</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by Pathos</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:28:08 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Burning Bushes</strong></p><p>Does Grist do this feature every year? If so, then Bush and Cheney probably weren't on the list basically because if they were, it would have been one of them in first place and one in second every year for the past eight. I promise you, whenever they were an option, they owned the vote. &nbsp;So... &nbsp;Good riddance to bad bull$%#!!</p><p>
That said, without them on the ballot, my vote goes to Inhofe. Partially because he's a pollutocrat douchebag, but mostly because unlike a surprising number of other environmental villains, he won his election, which means this year counts as part of all the damage he's going to do in the future. &nbsp;Oh, well. &nbsp;If we woke up Virginia this year, maybe we can wake up Oklahoma in '14.</p>
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				<p><strong>Burning Bushes</strong></p><p>Does Grist do this feature every year? If so, then Bush and Cheney probably weren't on the list basically because if they were, it would have been one of them in first place and one in second every year for the past eight. I promise you, whenever they were an option, they owned the vote. &nbsp;So... &nbsp;Good riddance to bad bull$%#!!</p><p>
That said, without them on the ballot, my vote goes to Inhofe. Partially because he's a pollutocrat douchebag, but mostly because unlike a surprising number of other environmental villains, he won his election, which means this year counts as part of all the damage he's going to do in the future. &nbsp;Oh, well. &nbsp;If we woke up Virginia this year, maybe we can wake up Oklahoma in '14.</p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:21:27 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Ideological Greens</strong></p><p><br>
By blocking the free expansion of Hydrogen Technology, they have drawn out the time scale for implementation of 21st Century clean fuel.<br>


<p>Leave any bigotry in your quarters. There's no room for it on the Bridge. J.T.Kirk</p></br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>Ideological Greens</strong></p><p><br>
By blocking the free expansion of Hydrogen Technology, they have drawn out the time scale for implementation of 21st Century clean fuel.<br>


<p>Leave any bigotry in your quarters. There's no room for it on the Bridge. J.T.Kirk</p></br></br></p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by GonzoDon</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:52:50 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>The Pope, and Dubya, in that order</strong></p><p>I don't know why neither of the above made your list. &nbsp;</p><p>
The current pope -- Pope John Paul Ringo III or whoever happens to hold that seat right now -- is a criminal for encouraging an already over-populated planet to keep on over-populating. &nbsp;</p><p>
Think about it: one hundred thousand new people to feed, clothe, and house EVERY DAY. &nbsp;Which inevitably destroys habitat, accelerates the production of atmospheric GHG's, and contributes to the depletion of soils, freshwater, and ocean fisheries. &nbsp;Among a hundred other problems.</p><p>
So until the Pope encourages his followers to adopt BIRTH CONTROL and to maintain a sustainable global population, he remains Criminal #1, in my opinion.</p><p>
Dubya's incomparable legacy of waste, corruption, incompetency and outright hostility to science and to the environment needs no further description.</p><p>
But Newt Gingrich? &nbsp;Please. &nbsp;He's a piker by comparison.</p>
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				<p><strong>The Pope, and Dubya, in that order</strong></p><p>I don't know why neither of the above made your list. &nbsp;</p><p>
The current pope -- Pope John Paul Ringo III or whoever happens to hold that seat right now -- is a criminal for encouraging an already over-populated planet to keep on over-populating. &nbsp;</p><p>
Think about it: one hundred thousand new people to feed, clothe, and house EVERY DAY. &nbsp;Which inevitably destroys habitat, accelerates the production of atmospheric GHG's, and contributes to the depletion of soils, freshwater, and ocean fisheries. &nbsp;Among a hundred other problems.</p><p>
So until the Pope encourages his followers to adopt BIRTH CONTROL and to maintain a sustainable global population, he remains Criminal #1, in my opinion.</p><p>
Dubya's incomparable legacy of waste, corruption, incompetency and outright hostility to science and to the environment needs no further description.</p><p>
But Newt Gingrich? &nbsp;Please. &nbsp;He's a piker by comparison.</p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by shehateme</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:47:30 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>clean coal</strong></p><p>While not the "coal miner's daughter",I am a daughter of generations of Kentuckians who lived in communities of coal miners and saw,firsthand,the devastation of strip mining. It is literally the rape of our earth.It strips the earth of it's ability to renew itself,to bear fruit. The analogies are endless.<br>
Today,we read about the cost of ash,just ash,from coal. People,if you believe the hype of "clean coal",I have a bridge in Wasilla that will take you to the Promise Land!! <br>
Seriously,THERE IS NO CLEAN COAL!!</br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>clean coal</strong></p><p>While not the "coal miner's daughter",I am a daughter of generations of Kentuckians who lived in communities of coal miners and saw,firsthand,the devastation of strip mining. It is literally the rape of our earth.It strips the earth of it's ability to renew itself,to bear fruit. The analogies are endless.<br>
Today,we read about the cost of ash,just ash,from coal. People,if you believe the hype of "clean coal",I have a bridge in Wasilla that will take you to the Promise Land!! <br>
Seriously,THERE IS NO CLEAN COAL!!</br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeople!!</strong></p><p>I had to laugh a bit at this because it seems so SANE!<br>
I mean we even have shows that promote (NBC'S TLC) tha program shows that glorify having 18,count 'em,EIGHTEEN,kids!<br>
It's just stupid. <br>
Do they THINK what the world will be ike for the children,grandchildren,great...<br>
No would be my guess.</br></br></br></br></p>
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				<p><strong>peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeople!!</strong></p><p>I had to laugh a bit at this because it seems so SANE!<br>
I mean we even have shows that promote (NBC'S TLC) tha program shows that glorify having 18,count 'em,EIGHTEEN,kids!<br>
It's just stupid. <br>
Do they THINK what the world will be ike for the children,grandchildren,great...<br>
No would be my guess.</br></br></br></br></p>
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