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            <title>Comment #1 by biodiversivist</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/Power-for-the-people/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:40:33 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I just hope<p>that the Grist staff is prepared to have &nbsp;homeland security confiscate their computers for publishing calls for civil disobedience ; )<p>
With Bush in office there was the very real fear that he would call out the guard and gas everybody. With Obama, we feel a little safer. The key is for the wise elders to control the stupid young bucks so violence does not break out as happened here in Seattle during the WTO meetings and as often happens during critical mass rides.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>I just hope<p>that the Grist staff is prepared to have &nbsp;homeland security confiscate their computers for publishing calls for civil disobedience ; )<p>
With Bush in office there was the very real fear that he would call out the guard and gas everybody. With Obama, we feel a little safer. The key is for the wise elders to control the stupid young bucks so violence does not break out as happened here in Seattle during the WTO meetings and as often happens during critical mass rides.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by rsmolker</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:26:29 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Celebrating Natural Gas????</strong></p><p></p><p>
Geez, Bill....Im afraid I cannot party down on behalf of a switch to natural gas, I mean we need to take advantage of any party opportunities that come along, but this is pathetic! &nbsp;</p><p>
For all those participating in the coal action: PLEEZ make sure there is a clear message that natural gas, or "biofuels" are NOT acceptable alternatives and no cause to party! &nbsp;Unfortunately, if we don't make a clear statement about what we perceive as viable alternatives, we will end up mining natural gas (see ShaleShock.org) or burning up our forests (see Biofuelwatch.org) as a substitute for blowing up the mountains of southern appalachia. &nbsp;I would prefer something more encouraging that choosing between these varous poisons! 

<p>Rachel Smolker, Ph.D
Research Biologist

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				<p><strong>Celebrating Natural Gas????</strong></p><p></p><p>
Geez, Bill....Im afraid I cannot party down on behalf of a switch to natural gas, I mean we need to take advantage of any party opportunities that come along, but this is pathetic! &nbsp;</p><p>
For all those participating in the coal action: PLEEZ make sure there is a clear message that natural gas, or "biofuels" are NOT acceptable alternatives and no cause to party! &nbsp;Unfortunately, if we don't make a clear statement about what we perceive as viable alternatives, we will end up mining natural gas (see ShaleShock.org) or burning up our forests (see Biofuelwatch.org) as a substitute for blowing up the mountains of southern appalachia. &nbsp;I would prefer something more encouraging that choosing between these varous poisons! 

<p>Rachel Smolker, Ph.D
Research Biologist

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            <title>Comment #3 by Erik Hoffner</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:49:30 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>all things in their time<p>Rachel, good point, but the Capitol power plant can't run on daisies just yet. <p>
I think this is a tremendous moment. Boots on the ground, stomping up change from the halls of power. <p>
Erik

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				<p><strong>all things in their time<p>Rachel, good point, but the Capitol power plant can't run on daisies just yet. <p>
I think this is a tremendous moment. Boots on the ground, stomping up change from the halls of power. <p>
Erik

<p><a href="http://www.oriongrassroots.org" rel="nofollow">The Orion Grassroots Network: supporting grassroots groups working for conservation, justice, &amp; more
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            <title>Comment #4 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:04:50 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Joisey Boyz Choose H2<p><br>
That's because Woodcliff Lake, N.J., is home to BMW of North America LLC, the German automaker's U.S. sales and marketing subsidiary, and BMW is a leader in hydrogen technology.<p>
<a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-3229-Newark-Autos-Examiner~y2009m2d26-North-Jersey-is-US-Home-to-BMW-Hydrogen-Technology" rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/x-3229-Newark-Autos-Examiner~y200 ...<br>
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				<p><strong>Joisey Boyz Choose H2<p><br>
That's because Woodcliff Lake, N.J., is home to BMW of North America LLC, the German automaker's U.S. sales and marketing subsidiary, and BMW is a leader in hydrogen technology.<p>
<a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-3229-Newark-Autos-Examiner~y2009m2d26-North-Jersey-is-US-Home-to-BMW-Hydrogen-Technology" rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/x-3229-Newark-Autos-Examiner~y200 ...<br>
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            <title>Comment #5 by scatter</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:42:08 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>That is good news</strong></p><p>Now how about retrofitting trigen? That would be quite a signal!</p>
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				<p><strong>That is good news</strong></p><p>Now how about retrofitting trigen? That would be quite a signal!</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by archigeek</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:16:11 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Bingo!</strong></p><p>Props to you, scatter! There's company called Tri-Gen housed in an old Union Electric coal-fired plant on the riverfront just north of downtown St. Louis. They use trigen technology to provide the steam for the loop which feeds most of the buildings in the DT area. The old power plant is a very pretty, albiet dirty, structure, too. 

<p>The mellotron is your friend.</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Bingo!</strong></p><p>Props to you, scatter! There's company called Tri-Gen housed in an old Union Electric coal-fired plant on the riverfront just north of downtown St. Louis. They use trigen technology to provide the steam for the loop which feeds most of the buildings in the DT area. The old power plant is a very pretty, albiet dirty, structure, too. 

<p>The mellotron is your friend.</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by hsr0601</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:46:08 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Smart grid overrules outdated energy</strong></p><p>Down the road, buildings also can become power plants, which leads them to being both self-sufficient and profitable via selling surplus, and those are what the power companies fear as this can reduce electricity cost considerably in the region as well, better still, it can give a building industry a boost at the same time, according to the research. <br>
With the promsing digital revolution, smart grid, the controversial, unpopular clean coal, nuclea energy issues are not so sigtnificant any longer, I think.</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Smart grid overrules outdated energy</strong></p><p>Down the road, buildings also can become power plants, which leads them to being both self-sufficient and profitable via selling surplus, and those are what the power companies fear as this can reduce electricity cost considerably in the region as well, better still, it can give a building industry a boost at the same time, according to the research. <br>
With the promsing digital revolution, smart grid, the controversial, unpopular clean coal, nuclea energy issues are not so sigtnificant any longer, I think.</br></p>
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