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            <title>Comment #1 by James Rodgers</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:34:07 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>LED's for Everyone!<p>OptiLED has a great selection of LED lamps (bulbs) that can be used in place of standard incandescent bulbs, compact fluorescents, and even MR16 Halogens - those nasty energy suckers that put out such nice light (often found in track lighting).<p>
I recommend talking to the good people at SED Technologies who distribute OptiLED products in the Pacific North West.<p>
For more bright ideas visit <a href="http://www.greenerhomes.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenerhomes.ca<p>
James</p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>LED's for Everyone!<p>OptiLED has a great selection of LED lamps (bulbs) that can be used in place of standard incandescent bulbs, compact fluorescents, and even MR16 Halogens - those nasty energy suckers that put out such nice light (often found in track lighting).<p>
I recommend talking to the good people at SED Technologies who distribute OptiLED products in the Pacific North West.<p>
For more bright ideas visit <a href="http://www.greenerhomes.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenerhomes.ca<p>
James</p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by James Rodgers</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:41:08 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>SED's Website isn't working...<p>OptiLED would be the place to go for more info...<p>
<a href="http://www.optiled.biz/indexmore.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.optiled.biz/indexmore.html<p>
James</p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>SED's Website isn't working...<p>OptiLED would be the place to go for more info...<p>
<a href="http://www.optiled.biz/indexmore.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.optiled.biz/indexmore.html<p>
James</p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by schooney</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:30:49 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>fun place to shop for led bulbs</strong></p><p>thinkgeek.com</p>
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				<p><strong>fun place to shop for led bulbs</strong></p><p>thinkgeek.com</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by aangel</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:33:27 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>More Lighting Resources<p><a href="http://www.albeotech.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.albeotech.com (I have one of these -- really really great over a desk; can set to one of three light levels)<br>
<a href="http://www.superbrightleds.com/MR16_specs.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.superbrightleds.com/MR16_specs.htm (full range of screw socket and track lighting LED bulbs)<br>
<a href="http://www.mulelighting.com/details.asp?id=64" rel="nofollow">http://www.mulelighting.com/details.asp?id=64 (don't believe their marketing: they can replace a 40W light bulb, not a 60W bulb)<p>
For a warm LED (2750K) that is also dimmable, see <a href="http://www.permlight.com/products/enbryten/enbc6f.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.permlight.com/products/enbryten/enbc6f.asp<p>
Organic Light Emitting Diodes (OLEDs) are currently in the lab and will be production ready soon (Sep 06). They are already being used to backlight LCD TVs, so it won't be long. Instead of "point source" lighting like a bulb provides, they will be "sheet source" lighting.<p>
People interested in LEDs might also be interested in fiber-optics, which can send LED (and other forms of light) across distances:<br>
<a href="http://www.himawari-net.co.jp/e_page-index01.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.himawari-net.co.jp/e_page-index01.html<br>
<a href="http://www.fiberstars.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fiberstars.com/<br>
<a href="http://www.ornl.gov/sci/solar/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ornl.gov/sci/solar/<br>
<a href="http://www.visual-lighting.com/gallery.aspx?type=architectural" rel="nofollow">http://www.visual-lighting.com/gallery.aspx?type=architec... &nbsp;(lots of pretty pictures)<br>
<a href="http://news.com.com/2300-11395_3-6110642-2.html?tag=ne.gall.pg" rel="nofollow">http://news.com.com/2300-11395_3-6110642-2.html?tag=ne.ga... (hybrid solar lighting pictures)</a></br></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></br></p></p></a></p></a></br></a></br></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>More Lighting Resources<p><a href="http://www.albeotech.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.albeotech.com (I have one of these -- really really great over a desk; can set to one of three light levels)<br>
<a href="http://www.superbrightleds.com/MR16_specs.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.superbrightleds.com/MR16_specs.htm (full range of screw socket and track lighting LED bulbs)<br>
<a href="http://www.mulelighting.com/details.asp?id=64" rel="nofollow">http://www.mulelighting.com/details.asp?id=64 (don't believe their marketing: they can replace a 40W light bulb, not a 60W bulb)<p>
For a warm LED (2750K) that is also dimmable, see <a href="http://www.permlight.com/products/enbryten/enbc6f.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.permlight.com/products/enbryten/enbc6f.asp<p>
Organic Light Emitting Diodes (OLEDs) are currently in the lab and will be production ready soon (Sep 06). They are already being used to backlight LCD TVs, so it won't be long. Instead of "point source" lighting like a bulb provides, they will be "sheet source" lighting.<p>
People interested in LEDs might also be interested in fiber-optics, which can send LED (and other forms of light) across distances:<br>
<a href="http://www.himawari-net.co.jp/e_page-index01.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.himawari-net.co.jp/e_page-index01.html<br>
<a href="http://www.fiberstars.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fiberstars.com/<br>
<a href="http://www.ornl.gov/sci/solar/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ornl.gov/sci/solar/<br>
<a href="http://www.visual-lighting.com/gallery.aspx?type=architectural" rel="nofollow">http://www.visual-lighting.com/gallery.aspx?type=architec... &nbsp;(lots of pretty pictures)<br>
<a href="http://news.com.com/2300-11395_3-6110642-2.html?tag=ne.gall.pg" rel="nofollow">http://news.com.com/2300-11395_3-6110642-2.html?tag=ne.ga... (hybrid solar lighting pictures)</a></br></a></br></a></br></a></br></a></br></p></p></a></p></a></br></a></br></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by ffletcher</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 02:37:47 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>LED for EE</strong></p><p>I have been adding Light Emitting Diodes lighting to my house over the last year. &nbsp;I have been using the OptiLED James speaks of. &nbsp;They are not very bright, but work well for low level lighting so a person can avoid turning on other lights. &nbsp;My current project is using motion sensors to gently light the walls at night when a person enters a darken room. &nbsp;Unfortunately I find this work more of an exercise enjoyed by us electrical engineers or electronic hobbists. &nbsp;The products are not ready for the masses, but they have great potential. &nbsp;For example, with LED you can have not only a dimmer but select the color tone of the light as well. &nbsp;Using DMX lighting control can give a person great flexibility in lighting.</p><p>
Cool things about LED are energy efficiency, small size (true point source), long life, and ability to be intergrated into fixtures. &nbsp;By building in spares into a fixture a lighting appliance (aka lamp) could last a million hours.<br>
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				<p><strong>LED for EE</strong></p><p>I have been adding Light Emitting Diodes lighting to my house over the last year. &nbsp;I have been using the OptiLED James speaks of. &nbsp;They are not very bright, but work well for low level lighting so a person can avoid turning on other lights. &nbsp;My current project is using motion sensors to gently light the walls at night when a person enters a darken room. &nbsp;Unfortunately I find this work more of an exercise enjoyed by us electrical engineers or electronic hobbists. &nbsp;The products are not ready for the masses, but they have great potential. &nbsp;For example, with LED you can have not only a dimmer but select the color tone of the light as well. &nbsp;Using DMX lighting control can give a person great flexibility in lighting.</p><p>
Cool things about LED are energy efficiency, small size (true point source), long life, and ability to be intergrated into fixtures. &nbsp;By building in spares into a fixture a lighting appliance (aka lamp) could last a million hours.<br>
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            <title>Comment #6 by WendyOZone</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 04:08:41 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>LEDs good for outdoor lighting?</strong></p><p>I've tried CFLs over the past 5 years or so and have two problems with them---the bases are often too big to fit most of my current fixtures, and they're not good for use outside because of cold temperatures affecting their life. They hardly seem to last any longer than regular incandescents outdoors.<br>
Do the LED bulbs last outdoors?<br>
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				<p><strong>LEDs good for outdoor lighting?</strong></p><p>I've tried CFLs over the past 5 years or so and have two problems with them---the bases are often too big to fit most of my current fixtures, and they're not good for use outside because of cold temperatures affecting their life. They hardly seem to last any longer than regular incandescents outdoors.<br>
Do the LED bulbs last outdoors?<br>
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            <title>Comment #7 by ffletcher</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 04:50:36 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>LED Outdoors</strong></p><p>LED work very well outdoors. &nbsp;These devices have been doing their magic in Vegas for ten years. &nbsp;Those at the Young Sign and Daktronics have been pressing envelope making LED signs more and more like TVs in Vegas and sporting events.</p><p>
LED can supplant CFL. &nbsp;It may have a larger impact than CFL as LED may replace fluorescent technology which has been used in commericial and government buildings since the 50s and 60s.</p><p>
LED do very well in cold weather. &nbsp;They also pose little fire danger. &nbsp;They are showing up in gas stations, high end retail, restaurants, bars, signal lights, and cars.</p><p>
Costs are high, but so are the savings, as well as the life.</p>
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				<p><strong>LED Outdoors</strong></p><p>LED work very well outdoors. &nbsp;These devices have been doing their magic in Vegas for ten years. &nbsp;Those at the Young Sign and Daktronics have been pressing envelope making LED signs more and more like TVs in Vegas and sporting events.</p><p>
LED can supplant CFL. &nbsp;It may have a larger impact than CFL as LED may replace fluorescent technology which has been used in commericial and government buildings since the 50s and 60s.</p><p>
LED do very well in cold weather. &nbsp;They also pose little fire danger. &nbsp;They are showing up in gas stations, high end retail, restaurants, bars, signal lights, and cars.</p><p>
Costs are high, but so are the savings, as well as the life.</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by jeffdotchan</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 05:17:03 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>LED outdoors continued<p>LED's are great for outdoors - I use the one from this site Eternaleds.com:<br>
<a href="http://www.eternaleds.com" rel="nofollow">LED Replacement Bulbs For Home and Retail Lighting.<br> <p>
to replace my 150W floodlights with a 5W LED bulb. It's def. not as bright but I don't need it that bright anyway. It's just for when people walk by, it will turn on. <p>
Check out their comparison of the cost savings - I think it really helps to see how much money you're THROWING away - by using inefficient bulbs</p></p></br></a></br></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>LED outdoors continued<p>LED's are great for outdoors - I use the one from this site Eternaleds.com:<br>
<a href="http://www.eternaleds.com" rel="nofollow">LED Replacement Bulbs For Home and Retail Lighting.<br> <p>
to replace my 150W floodlights with a 5W LED bulb. It's def. not as bright but I don't need it that bright anyway. It's just for when people walk by, it will turn on. <p>
Check out their comparison of the cost savings - I think it really helps to see how much money you're THROWING away - by using inefficient bulbs</p></p></br></a></br></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by LED Guy</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:11:15 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>We carry LED's<p>We are expanding our lineup of LED bulbs after having such a great success with LED holiday lighting products. &nbsp;You will see a complete lineup of just about every conceivable configuration in the near future. <a href="http://www.bulklights.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bulklights.com we make a pledge to only carry Commercial Grade Products priced so that residential customers who want quality can afford them too.<p>
JOhn &gt;&lt;&gt;</p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>We carry LED's<p>We are expanding our lineup of LED bulbs after having such a great success with LED holiday lighting products. &nbsp;You will see a complete lineup of just about every conceivable configuration in the near future. <a href="http://www.bulklights.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bulklights.com we make a pledge to only carry Commercial Grade Products priced so that residential customers who want quality can afford them too.<p>
JOhn &gt;&lt;&gt;</p></a></p></strong></p>
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