<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for L.A. ballot initiative on solar energy faces questions about cost and feasibility]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by amazingdrx http://www.grist.org/article/Hollywood-lights/ Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:18:33 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/Hollywood-lights/1 Exclusive utility installation?

This would seem to be a bit restrictive.  Why not specify instead that utility workers would put solar on city property.  Privately owned buildings could employ private solar businesses.

This is outstanding!  Let's hope it passes.  I think it will show a large majority of us want solar, that should help propell initiatives around the country.  A smart grid initiative along with the solar plan might be good.

And especially in LA, with it's smog, plugin buses,taxis, delivery, and garbage trucks and electric commuter rail ought to be considered.  This is the big smog solution.

Solar should also be configured in cogeneration designs, collecting domestic hot water and factory scale processing heat.

Conservation with ground source cooling would immediately cut a huge slice off of electrical demand in LA.

It is very likely that a lot of factory sites are large enough to make CSP a good option, mirrors mounted on factory roofs and over parking lots could focus solar energy on a solar tower on the factory roof.

And what about garbage, sewage, food waste, and even farming waste?  It should all be tuned into biogas to backup the new green smart grid and organic fertilizer that cancels huge amounts of GHG from chemical fertilizer.  Biogas digestors also allow water to be recycled.

Maybe they need a green power commision with people like Ed and Jay Leno on it?

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

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This would seem to be a bit restrictive.  Why not specify instead that utility workers would put solar on city property.  Privately owned buildings could employ private solar businesses.

This is outstanding!  Let's hope it passes.  I think it will show a large majority of us want solar, that should help propell initiatives around the country.  A smart grid initiative along with the solar plan might be good.

And especially in LA, with it's smog, plugin buses,taxis, delivery, and garbage trucks and electric commuter rail ought to be considered.  This is the big smog solution.

Solar should also be configured in cogeneration designs, collecting domestic hot water and factory scale processing heat.

Conservation with ground source cooling would immediately cut a huge slice off of electrical demand in LA.

It is very likely that a lot of factory sites are large enough to make CSP a good option, mirrors mounted on factory roofs and over parking lots could focus solar energy on a solar tower on the factory roof.

And what about garbage, sewage, food waste, and even farming waste?  It should all be tuned into biogas to backup the new green smart grid and organic fertilizer that cancels huge amounts of GHG from chemical fertilizer.  Biogas digestors also allow water to be recycled.

Maybe they need a green power commision with people like Ed and Jay Leno on it?

http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin

]]> Comment #2 by Pangolin http://www.grist.org/article/Hollywood-lights/ Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:11:18 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/Hollywood-lights/2 Sure utility installation

Utility installation eliminates in a brushstroke the opposition argument that this measure will result in profiteering by fly-by-night operators like those that installed thousands of faulty solar hot water systems in the 70's and early 80's.

In addition to the job creation aspect of this program a major benefit will be that money spent on imported natural gas or coal power from out of state. Wage money paid in the LA basin is going to get spent in the LA basin.

IF this program succeeds then having the utility install a thermal sump service to buildings would make far more sense than drilling millions of wells for ground-loop thermal systems. In addition to the job creation THAT would entail Los Angeles would get instantly quieter on summer days as air conditioning fans were traded for quiet-running geothermal heat-pumps.

The simple replacement of the probable millions of aged and poorly functioning air-conditioners and furnaces would take a massive chunk off of California's electric and natural gas loads. Integrating them into thermal utilities would do this cheaper and better than piecemeal installation.

Put the Carbon Back

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Utility installation eliminates in a brushstroke the opposition argument that this measure will result in profiteering by fly-by-night operators like those that installed thousands of faulty solar hot water systems in the 70's and early 80's.

In addition to the job creation aspect of this program a major benefit will be that money spent on imported natural gas or coal power from out of state. Wage money paid in the LA basin is going to get spent in the LA basin.

IF this program succeeds then having the utility install a thermal sump service to buildings would make far more sense than drilling millions of wells for ground-loop thermal systems. In addition to the job creation THAT would entail Los Angeles would get instantly quieter on summer days as air conditioning fans were traded for quiet-running geothermal heat-pumps.

The simple replacement of the probable millions of aged and poorly functioning air-conditioners and furnaces would take a massive chunk off of California's electric and natural gas loads. Integrating them into thermal utilities would do this cheaper and better than piecemeal installation.

Put the Carbon Back

]]> Comment #3 by robert 136 http://www.grist.org/article/Hollywood-lights/ Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:33:52 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/Hollywood-lights/3 Robert 136

    I think it is a good idea to make the whole city of Los Angeles solar panal power. No matter what the cost is, it would be a step in the right direction in trying to save the planet from global warming. It  would remove 400,000 tons of greenhouse gases every year. Espcialy since L.A is the most poluted city in the United States.

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    I think it is a good idea to make the whole city of Los Angeles solar panal power. No matter what the cost is, it would be a step in the right direction in trying to save the planet from global warming. It  would remove 400,000 tons of greenhouse gases every year. Espcialy since L.A is the most poluted city in the United States.

]]> Comment #4 by henryjoe http://www.grist.org/article/Hollywood-lights/ Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:24:49 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/Hollywood-lights/4 LA Solar Plan Call for Support - dumb

Only in LA would an article think that help for a ballot measure would be effective by endorsements from the celebratecy. Yah actors understand the impacts on working people of a 5 to 15 increase in their electricity bill, or that the cost of a solar watt is three or four times the cost of a natural gas watt. Even if that entereed their mind as being critical.

]]> LA Solar Plan Call for Support - dumb

Only in LA would an article think that help for a ballot measure would be effective by endorsements from the celebratecy. Yah actors understand the impacts on working people of a 5 to 15 increase in their electricity bill, or that the cost of a solar watt is three or four times the cost of a natural gas watt. Even if that entereed their mind as being critical.

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