<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Business/enviro alliance unveils climate plan, attracts critics]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by F James Handley http://www.grist.org/article/Bustin-a-USCAP-/ Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:02:32 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/Bustin-a-USCAP-/1 Carbon Tax gains momentum as cap-n-trade fades

Describing USCAP's proposal, Pew's Eileen Claussen said, "all the components of the plan are linked."   So are the players.  All betting on a piece of the revenue "pie".  From what I can tell, ("transparency" isn't a word associated with cap-and-trade) "dessert" is expected to be served through free allowances, offsets and subsidies funded by a hidden, regressive, volatile tax, called a "cap."

That dog won't hunt.  That "give-away" plan was Lieberman-Warner. Senator Corker didn't sit quietly for it.  He's reportedly drafting a carbon tax bill as are Rep's Larson and Inglis. Rep. Stark has just introduced one.  All expect to feature revenue recycling.  Think bi-partisan revenue-neutral carbon tax.   See http://www.pricecarbon.org.

- James Handley  

]]> Carbon Tax gains momentum as cap-n-trade fades

Describing USCAP's proposal, Pew's Eileen Claussen said, "all the components of the plan are linked."   So are the players.  All betting on a piece of the revenue "pie".  From what I can tell, ("transparency" isn't a word associated with cap-and-trade) "dessert" is expected to be served through free allowances, offsets and subsidies funded by a hidden, regressive, volatile tax, called a "cap."

That dog won't hunt.  That "give-away" plan was Lieberman-Warner. Senator Corker didn't sit quietly for it.  He's reportedly drafting a carbon tax bill as are Rep's Larson and Inglis. Rep. Stark has just introduced one.  All expect to feature revenue recycling.  Think bi-partisan revenue-neutral carbon tax.   See http://www.pricecarbon.org.

- James Handley  

]]> Comment #2 by wolfger http://www.grist.org/article/Bustin-a-USCAP-/ Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:53:57 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/Bustin-a-USCAP-/2 Cap&Trade doesn't work the demand side

I'm fully supportive of a carbon tax with rebates after we eliminate all current subsidies to the fossil fuel industry.  Cap&Trade is the devil's playground and that is why it has so much industry support.  It has too many middle men and will have little transparency, akin to the cause of our financial meltdown.
If we do end up with cap&trade, carbon offsets should include demand side management.  Consider that around half of all pregnancies around the world are not planned because of lack of education or lack of birth control.  It costs around $40 dollars to prevent an unplanned pregnancy and that can save up to 1000 tons of lifetime CO2 generation.  Multiply that by the 70 million more people on this planet every year and you can see a tremendous CO2 emission saving.

]]> Cap&Trade doesn't work the demand side

I'm fully supportive of a carbon tax with rebates after we eliminate all current subsidies to the fossil fuel industry.  Cap&Trade is the devil's playground and that is why it has so much industry support.  It has too many middle men and will have little transparency, akin to the cause of our financial meltdown.
If we do end up with cap&trade, carbon offsets should include demand side management.  Consider that around half of all pregnancies around the world are not planned because of lack of education or lack of birth control.  It costs around $40 dollars to prevent an unplanned pregnancy and that can save up to 1000 tons of lifetime CO2 generation.  Multiply that by the 70 million more people on this planet every year and you can see a tremendous CO2 emission saving.

]]> Comment #3 by geoark http://www.grist.org/article/Bustin-a-USCAP-/ Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:53:04 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/Bustin-a-USCAP-/3 Cap & Charade

Please see http://www.carbontax.org/ for good information on why a direct carbon tax is five times more effective than any "cap & charade" schemes.

cha⋅rade:  3. a blatant pretense or deception, esp. something so full of pretense as to be a travesty.

Also, if you look who funds some of the "environmental" groups you will understand that they are not representing environmental interests in these "deals".  

GeoArk
Save your job, save your business, save your planet: Tax Waste, Not Work.


]]> Cap & Charade

Please see http://www.carbontax.org/ for good information on why a direct carbon tax is five times more effective than any "cap & charade" schemes.

cha⋅rade:  3. a blatant pretense or deception, esp. something so full of pretense as to be a travesty.

Also, if you look who funds some of the "environmental" groups you will understand that they are not representing environmental interests in these "deals".  

GeoArk
Save your job, save your business, save your planet: Tax Waste, Not Work.


]]> Comment #4 by GreyFlcn http://www.grist.org/article/Bustin-a-USCAP-/ Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:01:33 -0800 http://www.grist.org/article/Bustin-a-USCAP-/4 So how about

"Carbon Tax&Rebate"

-David Ahlport

]]> So how about

"Carbon Tax&Rebate"

-David Ahlport

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