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            <title>Comment #1 by biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:19:07 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Good points<p>I discreetly avoid the tuna while in a sushi restaurant. Maybe sushi restaurants should become targets of protests to get tuna off the menu.<p>
A popular restaurant on Capital hill was being protested the other night. I asked one of the participants what they were protesting--<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras" rel="nofollow">Foie_gras.<p>
I rolled my eyes. Hundreds of millions of malnourished children, a major extinction event, the oceans dying, global warming, and these people have as their highest priority the quality of life of domesticated farm animals. Sorry, a bit off topic.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Good points<p>I discreetly avoid the tuna while in a sushi restaurant. Maybe sushi restaurants should become targets of protests to get tuna off the menu.<p>
A popular restaurant on Capital hill was being protested the other night. I asked one of the participants what they were protesting--<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras" rel="nofollow">Foie_gras.<p>
I rolled my eyes. Hundreds of millions of malnourished children, a major extinction event, the oceans dying, global warming, and these people have as their highest priority the quality of life of domesticated farm animals. Sorry, a bit off topic.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Tom Laskawy</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/Big-fish-little-fish/</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:41:52 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Mark Bittman...<p>...in his new incarnation as a progressive foodie has been <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/weekinreview/16bittman.html" rel="nofollow">writing about fish (complete with great NYT <a href="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/11/16/weekinreview/1116-web-BITTMAN1-650.jpg" rel="nofollow">charts). &nbsp;He identifies China as a model for small-scale fish farming, which <a href="http://www.weaversway.coop/blog/2008/11/fish-story.html" rel="nofollow">surprised me no end. &nbsp;Saving the tuna is a real problem - and unfortunately the International Commission for the Conservation of Atlantic Tunas <a href="http://www.weaversway.coop/blog/2008/11/feel-bad-for-turkey-then-dont-think.html" rel="nofollow">isn't much help. &nbsp;Who's going to step into that void?</a></a></a></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Mark Bittman...<p>...in his new incarnation as a progressive foodie has been <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/weekinreview/16bittman.html" rel="nofollow">writing about fish (complete with great NYT <a href="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/11/16/weekinreview/1116-web-BITTMAN1-650.jpg" rel="nofollow">charts). &nbsp;He identifies China as a model for small-scale fish farming, which <a href="http://www.weaversway.coop/blog/2008/11/fish-story.html" rel="nofollow">surprised me no end. &nbsp;Saving the tuna is a real problem - and unfortunately the International Commission for the Conservation of Atlantic Tunas <a href="http://www.weaversway.coop/blog/2008/11/feel-bad-for-turkey-then-dont-think.html" rel="nofollow">isn't much help. &nbsp;Who's going to step into that void?</a></a></a></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Erik Hoffner</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:27:50 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>bycatch<p>Bycatch is what hurts my head and my heart the most about commercial fishing. Even small fishers waste a lot. Check out these gorgeous and appalling images by Brian Skerry of small scale bycatch if you haven't seen these before:<p>
<a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/12/5/84020/7064" rel="nofollow">http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/12/5/84020/7064<p>
And then multiply the amount of waste you see by a very large factor to imagine what a factory trawler might dump overboard...<p>
Erik

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				<p><strong>bycatch<p>Bycatch is what hurts my head and my heart the most about commercial fishing. Even small fishers waste a lot. Check out these gorgeous and appalling images by Brian Skerry of small scale bycatch if you haven't seen these before:<p>
<a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/12/5/84020/7064" rel="nofollow">http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/12/5/84020/7064<p>
And then multiply the amount of waste you see by a very large factor to imagine what a factory trawler might dump overboard...<p>
Erik

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            <title>Comment #4 by biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:39:05 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Commercial  fishing reminds me of buffalo hunters <p>who obliterated the great plains ecosystems once the last of the native Americans who were trying to preserve the herds were themselves killed or herded into domestication.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Commercial  fishing reminds me of buffalo hunters <p>who obliterated the great plains ecosystems once the last of the native Americans who were trying to preserve the herds were themselves killed or herded into domestication.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:44:03 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Sushi<p>9 foot <a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/20/tapeworm-tort-chicago-restaurant-sued-for-9-foot-tapeworm/" rel="nofollow">tapeworm anyone?<p>
This picture on some big posters held up by protestors might be a good way to stop sushi entirely. &nbsp;Reputable restaurants could go vegan. <p>
Vegan sushi is every bit as good as tapeworm sushi, but of course if you want to diet the tapeworm way, eat the tuna sushi.<p>
But the really great point of this article is that small local fishing rules, in every respect. &nbsp;Offshore floating wind/wave/ocean current power generators and desalination systems would help prevent factory fishing.<p>
This is a powerful green juggernaut that could assault fossil fuel and nuclear power and it's GHG and ocean life killing factory fishing symbiotically. &nbsp;Save the fish, fishing communities, and the climate. &nbsp;Do it yesterday!

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin </p></p></p></p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Sushi<p>9 foot <a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/20/tapeworm-tort-chicago-restaurant-sued-for-9-foot-tapeworm/" rel="nofollow">tapeworm anyone?<p>
This picture on some big posters held up by protestors might be a good way to stop sushi entirely. &nbsp;Reputable restaurants could go vegan. <p>
Vegan sushi is every bit as good as tapeworm sushi, but of course if you want to diet the tapeworm way, eat the tuna sushi.<p>
But the really great point of this article is that small local fishing rules, in every respect. &nbsp;Offshore floating wind/wave/ocean current power generators and desalination systems would help prevent factory fishing.<p>
This is a powerful green juggernaut that could assault fossil fuel and nuclear power and it's GHG and ocean life killing factory fishing symbiotically. &nbsp;Save the fish, fishing communities, and the climate. &nbsp;Do it yesterday!

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin </p></p></p></p></p></a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:50:52 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Oh yeah</strong></p><p>I forgot. &nbsp;Floating energy platforms can double as aquaculture stations, oysters grown offshore would even be safe from sewage and chemical run off. &nbsp;That's a huge potential income and food source to revive fishing communities.</p><p>
Naturally the faux green people are fighting offshore wind....in the name of fisheries? &nbsp;Wake up fisher folk, you are being sold out by the likes of the Kennedy clan.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin </p></p>
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				<p><strong>Oh yeah</strong></p><p>I forgot. &nbsp;Floating energy platforms can double as aquaculture stations, oysters grown offshore would even be safe from sewage and chemical run off. &nbsp;That's a huge potential income and food source to revive fishing communities.</p><p>
Naturally the faux green people are fighting offshore wind....in the name of fisheries? &nbsp;Wake up fisher folk, you are being sold out by the likes of the Kennedy clan.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog     John Schneider, Northern Wisconsin </p></p>
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