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            <title>Comment #1 by tismeinaz</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:54:11 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>I still don't see why Monsanto can't be sued.  They own the land being dusted and they hired the company to do the dusting.  Maybe it is time to take care of these problems the French way?!?</p>
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				<p>I still don't see why Monsanto can't be sued.  They own the land being dusted and they hired the company to do the dusting.  Maybe it is time to take care of these problems the French way?!?</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by veritone</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:19:41 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>I find myself scratching my head wondering what you mean by "The French Way." Would that be "Viva La Revolution," or "Viva La Guillotine"?</p>
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				<p>I find myself scratching my head wondering what you mean by "The French Way." Would that be "Viva La Revolution," or "Viva La Guillotine"?</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by El Dragón</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:22:34 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Tismeinaz means that we need a few <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jRnkn_FZpoIC7BcD-bTG1SeEiPCAD99FEM9G0" rel="nofollow">Jose Boves. Maybe some activists need to take matters into their own hands with Monsanto's GMO seed beds. Do a bit of anti-farming.&nbsp; ;)<p>&nbsp;<p>&nbsp;<p>&nbsp;</p></p></p></a></p>
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				<p>Tismeinaz means that we need a few <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jRnkn_FZpoIC7BcD-bTG1SeEiPCAD99FEM9G0" rel="nofollow">Jose Boves. Maybe some activists need to take matters into their own hands with Monsanto's GMO seed beds. Do a bit of anti-farming.&nbsp; ;)<p>&nbsp;<p>&nbsp;<p>&nbsp;</p></p></p></a></p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Mica V</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:26:17 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Here is a little more background on this.</p><p>Mr. Dunham is a neighbor of ours, with his farm adjacent to one of our seed production facilities. As sometimes happens between neighbors, we had an unfortunate issue arise. &nbsp;</p><p>The pilot who performed the crop dusting was spraying our farm plots. After becoming aware of the incident, the pilot self-reported the event to officials at the Iowa Department of Agriculture. The Dept. of Ag is currently conducting an investigation.</p><p>We contacted both the farmer and the applicator to understand what happened. We are hopeful that after the Dept. of Ag completes the investigation, we can reach an amicable resolution.</p><p>Many farms of different types can and do co-exist - conventional, organic, biotech-all across the country.&nbsp;We&nbsp;will&nbsp;work with Mr. Dunham&nbsp;to make sure both farms can continue to operate in the manner of their choice. &nbsp;</p><p>Mica Veihman <br />Monsanto Company</p></br>
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				<p>Here is a little more background on this.</p><p>Mr. Dunham is a neighbor of ours, with his farm adjacent to one of our seed production facilities. As sometimes happens between neighbors, we had an unfortunate issue arise. &nbsp;</p><p>The pilot who performed the crop dusting was spraying our farm plots. After becoming aware of the incident, the pilot self-reported the event to officials at the Iowa Department of Agriculture. The Dept. of Ag is currently conducting an investigation.</p><p>We contacted both the farmer and the applicator to understand what happened. We are hopeful that after the Dept. of Ag completes the investigation, we can reach an amicable resolution.</p><p>Many farms of different types can and do co-exist - conventional, organic, biotech-all across the country.&nbsp;We&nbsp;will&nbsp;work with Mr. Dunham&nbsp;to make sure both farms can continue to operate in the manner of their choice. &nbsp;</p><p>Mica Veihman <br />Monsanto Company</p></br>
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            <title>Comment #5 by plantqueenie</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:40:36 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Interesting article... although I didn't appreciate the harsh tone regarding the pilot.&nbsp; These pilots are highly trained individuals, the maneuvers and multi-tasking they must do as a cropduster is nothing short of a stunt pilot.&nbsp; While he may not be as educated in the harmful effects of the chemicals used on the crops, I don't think it's fair to insult the guy's intelligence.&nbsp; He does have a point regarding drifting of chemicals that are sprayed from ground machines... crop dusters get reeeeeally low to the ground while dusting - and the difference between the elevation of the plane and some of the gargantuan equipment used on farms these days really isn't that far.&nbsp; Especially on a windy day.</p>
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				<p>Interesting article... although I didn't appreciate the harsh tone regarding the pilot.&nbsp; These pilots are highly trained individuals, the maneuvers and multi-tasking they must do as a cropduster is nothing short of a stunt pilot.&nbsp; While he may not be as educated in the harmful effects of the chemicals used on the crops, I don't think it's fair to insult the guy's intelligence.&nbsp; He does have a point regarding drifting of chemicals that are sprayed from ground machines... crop dusters get reeeeeally low to the ground while dusting - and the difference between the elevation of the plane and some of the gargantuan equipment used on farms these days really isn't that far.&nbsp; Especially on a windy day.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by sanderson508</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:53:21 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>"Especially on a windy day"...if he were intelligent he should have noticed it was windy and postponed the dusting.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On the other hand maybe he was operating as instructed by Monsanto and had no choice.&nbsp;&nbsp; They are just another coprorate giant with no concern for anything&nbsp;beyond next quarters&nbsp;dividend.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; No morals, no conscience, large level of untempered greed.&nbsp;&nbsp; Of course the corporation is legally clear, they have an entire department of lawyers keeping them "clean".&nbsp;&nbsp; Bet they use off shore accounts to avoid paying tax on profits too.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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				<p>"Especially on a windy day"...if he were intelligent he should have noticed it was windy and postponed the dusting.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On the other hand maybe he was operating as instructed by Monsanto and had no choice.&nbsp;&nbsp; They are just another coprorate giant with no concern for anything&nbsp;beyond next quarters&nbsp;dividend.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; No morals, no conscience, large level of untempered greed.&nbsp;&nbsp; Of course the corporation is legally clear, they have an entire department of lawyers keeping them "clean".&nbsp;&nbsp; Bet they use off shore accounts to avoid paying tax on profits too.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Tasermons Partner</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:09:52 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Care to be alittle more specific on Monsanto's contractual (or other) regulations/agreements with crop-dusters concerning wayward spraying and other crop-dusting incidents?</p><p>Does the company have it's own own personal criteria in the contracts for weather conditions when spraying?&nbsp; Buffer zones?&nbsp; Pilot experience?&nbsp; Monitoring?&nbsp;</p><p>In other words, anything that goes beyond current public law/regulation and individual, unregualted pilot discretion?</p><p>Does your company take any specific steps that others would not or are not required to when it comes to crop-dusting (other than possible insurance coverage, of course)?</p>
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				<p>Care to be alittle more specific on Monsanto's contractual (or other) regulations/agreements with crop-dusters concerning wayward spraying and other crop-dusting incidents?</p><p>Does the company have it's own own personal criteria in the contracts for weather conditions when spraying?&nbsp; Buffer zones?&nbsp; Pilot experience?&nbsp; Monitoring?&nbsp;</p><p>In other words, anything that goes beyond current public law/regulation and individual, unregualted pilot discretion?</p><p>Does your company take any specific steps that others would not or are not required to when it comes to crop-dusting (other than possible insurance coverage, of course)?</p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by Delay And Deny</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:51:33 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Turnip spelled backwards is pinrut, not spinrut.</p><p>So the plural would be pinruts.</p>
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				<p>Turnip spelled backwards is pinrut, not spinrut.</p><p>So the plural would be pinruts.</p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by floydyouman</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:46:03 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Monsanto doesn't own the land. They contract with local farmers to grow the crop.</p><p>The article is correct is saying that the plane/sprayer is hired as a contractor, but the article brings a incorrect conclusion as to why. The whole industry (including individual farmers) contracts with individual/small business aerial sprayers. These planes move through the country to where their services are needed depending on the crop/time of year. Financially, it would not make since for Monsanto or any farmer to own their own planes to spray their crop.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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				<p>Monsanto doesn't own the land. They contract with local farmers to grow the crop.</p><p>The article is correct is saying that the plane/sprayer is hired as a contractor, but the article brings a incorrect conclusion as to why. The whole industry (including individual farmers) contracts with individual/small business aerial sprayers. These planes move through the country to where their services are needed depending on the crop/time of year. Financially, it would not make since for Monsanto or any farmer to own their own planes to spray their crop.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by fauxcult</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:17:00 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>"These pilots are highly trained individuals,"</p><p><br />APPARENTLY NOT HIGHLY TRAINED ENOUGH.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Seriously, not knowing whose crop you are over-flying and/or not being cognizent enough of your position to know when to shut off the nozzle -- does not speak well for the pilot's training/attentiveness.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>This wasn't a case of wind-drift.&nbsp; The pilot overflew and/or did not shut off the spray when it should have been.&nbsp;</p></br>
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				<p>"These pilots are highly trained individuals,"</p><p><br />APPARENTLY NOT HIGHLY TRAINED ENOUGH.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Seriously, not knowing whose crop you are over-flying and/or not being cognizent enough of your position to know when to shut off the nozzle -- does not speak well for the pilot's training/attentiveness.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>This wasn't a case of wind-drift.&nbsp; The pilot overflew and/or did not shut off the spray when it should have been.&nbsp;</p></br>
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            <title>Comment #11 by splashy</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:47:33 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Therefore the laws need to be changed, so that organic farmers like in the article have some kind of recourse when their livlihood is damaged by these practices. It is definitely unacceptable this way, where a corporation can tromp on anyone they like without any punishment.</p>
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				<p>Therefore the laws need to be changed, so that organic farmers like in the article have some kind of recourse when their livlihood is damaged by these practices. It is definitely unacceptable this way, where a corporation can tromp on anyone they like without any punishment.</p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by splashy</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:55:28 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Actually, it's Monsanto that should be liable. The laws need to be changed so they are.</p><p>It seems like we just can't get away from their touch on our food supply, can we.</p>
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				<p>Actually, it's Monsanto that should be liable. The laws need to be changed so they are.</p><p>It seems like we just can't get away from their touch on our food supply, can we.</p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by justlou</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:38:27 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>The midwest is just one big corn/soy factory.&nbsp; Laws regulating spray drift across property lines are significantly and blatantly ignored by both aerial and ground applicators. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Last year about this same time I complained about an aerial applicator spraying fungicide on field corn growing on the edge of a  central IL town.&nbsp; At low elevations, the pilot was making his turns directly over tens of homes in the town.&nbsp; For what?&nbsp; Risking the lives of the town's inhabitants for a few more bushels of corn per acre?&nbsp; This represents nothing but warped values of the farmer and the spray pilot as well as the regulating authorities who allow this practice to happen fairly often with little legal restriction.&nbsp; Surprisingly, no one in the town registered any complaints.&nbsp; The people have largely accepted the domineering ways of big ag.&nbsp; I respect the organic grower in this article for standing his ground.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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				<p>The midwest is just one big corn/soy factory.&nbsp; Laws regulating spray drift across property lines are significantly and blatantly ignored by both aerial and ground applicators. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Last year about this same time I complained about an aerial applicator spraying fungicide on field corn growing on the edge of a  central IL town.&nbsp; At low elevations, the pilot was making his turns directly over tens of homes in the town.&nbsp; For what?&nbsp; Risking the lives of the town's inhabitants for a few more bushels of corn per acre?&nbsp; This represents nothing but warped values of the farmer and the spray pilot as well as the regulating authorities who allow this practice to happen fairly often with little legal restriction.&nbsp; Surprisingly, no one in the town registered any complaints.&nbsp; The people have largely accepted the domineering ways of big ag.&nbsp; I respect the organic grower in this article for standing his ground.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #14 by Storm Dragon</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:17:11 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>A similar case was recently reported here in California.&nbsp; Several workers were harvesting onions on an organic farm when they were exposed to toxic chemicals drifting from a neighboring farm, and required emergency treatment.&nbsp; I have not yet heard what the effect will be on the farm's certification, but the effect on the health of the workers, (one of whom is pregnant), is certainly cause for concern.</p>
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				<p>A similar case was recently reported here in California.&nbsp; Several workers were harvesting onions on an organic farm when they were exposed to toxic chemicals drifting from a neighboring farm, and required emergency treatment.&nbsp; I have not yet heard what the effect will be on the farm's certification, but the effect on the health of the workers, (one of whom is pregnant), is certainly cause for concern.</p>
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            <title>Comment #15 by JoytotheWorld</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:29:55 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Direct question to Mica (Monsanto)...</p><p>This could be construed as a convenient way to put your troublesome neighbor out of business.&nbsp; Can Monsanto prove they doing everything possible to prevent contamination of their property? What kind of documentation do you provide the pilot on field location, instructions for prevention of contamination, and potential repercussions for "accidental" contamination?</p><p>Sorry, but Monsanto is like human foot is to an ant.&nbsp; The primary responsibility falls on your corporation. Do you have a quality system? Do you have written procedures that are regularly taught to your subcontractors, vendors, employees?</p><p>As citizen and voter in this country I am getting very tired of excuses.&nbsp;</p>
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				<p>Direct question to Mica (Monsanto)...</p><p>This could be construed as a convenient way to put your troublesome neighbor out of business.&nbsp; Can Monsanto prove they doing everything possible to prevent contamination of their property? What kind of documentation do you provide the pilot on field location, instructions for prevention of contamination, and potential repercussions for "accidental" contamination?</p><p>Sorry, but Monsanto is like human foot is to an ant.&nbsp; The primary responsibility falls on your corporation. Do you have a quality system? Do you have written procedures that are regularly taught to your subcontractors, vendors, employees?</p><p>As citizen and voter in this country I am getting very tired of excuses.&nbsp;</p>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:14:47 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>It is a wish, or better described as a hope, that the whole insecticide and chemical usage will be be exposed all the way to the level of lawn sprays and home owner applied chemicals.&nbsp; It is frightening that there are so many that do not see the need to limit chemical usage to its absolute lowest level necessary.&nbsp; There are days I take my dog for a walk and really wonder if I am doing her any favors. Every single lawn in the neighborhood will have warning signs and some places have that tell-tale smell and no signs.&nbsp; Is anyone doing any studies to see what happens when an entire neighborhood feels they have the right to contaminate at will?</p>
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				<p>It is a wish, or better described as a hope, that the whole insecticide and chemical usage will be be exposed all the way to the level of lawn sprays and home owner applied chemicals.&nbsp; It is frightening that there are so many that do not see the need to limit chemical usage to its absolute lowest level necessary.&nbsp; There are days I take my dog for a walk and really wonder if I am doing her any favors. Every single lawn in the neighborhood will have warning signs and some places have that tell-tale smell and no signs.&nbsp; Is anyone doing any studies to see what happens when an entire neighborhood feels they have the right to contaminate at will?</p>
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