She is an embarrasment to the principled democrats and republicans in the house who decided to take a stand on global warming. I hope Boxer and the excellent leadership can persuade her to support.

"Yes, I agree that global warming is a threat." Bull shit. As Edward Abbey said, "Sentiment without action is deadly to the soul."  And the planet.  We are hostages of timid little minds.  They will be the death of us. People like McCaskill make Inhofe look principled.  At least you know where he stands. 

To hell with them all.

Randy Cunningham

You claim that ACES will raise energy prices, ignoring entirley the CBO study which says its cost will be negligible. And you acknowledge nowhere Paul Krugman's conviction that capping greenhouse gases will have the effect of a major technological revolution throughout our economy, stimulating investment in technology and creating jobs like nothing else on the horizon.

Having visited your website just now I see that you are a card-carrying climate denier. Small wonder then how shallow and non-sensical your remarks are. Are you funded by the fossil fuel industry? It sure seems to me like you are. Your site spouts the entire litany of the climate denial industry's nonsense. I hope readers will put your remarks in proper perspective.

Global temp declining for 8 years

Ocean temp declining for 3 years

Sea level falling for 3 years

"More than 90 percent of the world's glaciers are growing" Robert W. Felix

All while CO2 increased over 5% since 2000.

Yes, CO2 is a problem.  Yes, CO2 is a problem.  Yes, CO2 is a problem 'cause the GC Models tell me so!

We've all had plenty of repeated warnings from these Senators, McCaskill chief among them, that they will not support a toothy carbon pricing bill.  They've been telling us that in no uncertain terms since they rejected Lieberman-Warner bill back in June 2008.  The writing has been on the wall sense then (and largely ignored): if you're counting on high carbon prices or a binding cap on carbon emissions to transform the U.S. energy system, you'll find no success in the U.S. Senate. 

We've had a full year to develop a Plan B, a strategy (both policy and politics) that can succeed in transforming the way we make and use energy in this country and building a clean, prosperous energy economy without requiring a high carbon price.  My effort to develop such a plan, a plan that can pass the Sherrod Brown (or Claire McCaskill) Test can be found here and here.  But we've all had time to develop such a plan, including the chief architects of climate policy strategy in DC (which sadly does not include this policy analyst or his small think tank).  Now time has almost run out.  Will a change in strategy and policy be attempted in the Senate, or will we simply see the already concession-ridden and non-transformative ACES bill get even weaker and weaker to secure passage?  Given the urgency of the climate challenge, I hope desperately for the former and shudder to think of the results of the latter.

Keep up the good writing Kate.

"Global temp declining for 8 years"

No it hasn't...the last 14 years have been the hottest ever recorded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Global-blended-temp-pg.gif

"Sea level falling for 3 years"

Globally, it hasn't.

http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Recent_Sea_Level_Rise_png

"the glaciers are growing"

Uh no, they're melting. The National Snow and Ice Data Centre and their State of the Cryosphere division, on their Glacial Balance page, report an overall accelerating rate of glacial mass loss.

Randy Cunningham

And the NSIDC does not track glacier advancement/retreat.  I suggest you stretch your search to include additional sources.

Here are a few things to broaden your understanding of the recent science/debate.

http://www.pensee-unique.fr/courtillot3.pdf

http://www.nipccreport.org/index.html

I think everyone should at least listen and consider the arguments of the other side.  Do you have the courage to give the other side an honest listen?

Under cap and trade a several trillion dollar market for carbon credits will develop.  Much of these costs will be passed down to the consumer.  As I said in my post, I'm a Democrat.  I'm fundamenttally opposed to enriching Wallstreet at the expense of the consumer.

If instead of cap and trade the United States had a national mandate to replace coal generation plants with natural gas and nuclear energy, plus if we replaced our commuter cars with battery-powered electric cars, we would drastically reduce our dependence on foreign oil and reduce CO2 emissions faster and beyond the proposed cap and trade targets.

For twenty years I devoutly believed CO2 caused global warming.  Now, I'm not to sure. I have spent many hours reading the IPCC climate reports searching for the smoking gun that proves CO2 drives global warming.  There is none.  Clearly, however, there is an agenda.  It is my belief the USA needs our own 'climate truth commission' before we reorganize and burden our economy with CO2 caps.

-- Robert Moen, http://www.energyplanUSA.com

So to those deniers, when the poop hits the fan and you need help from us who do know it's happening, take a walk, you had your chance.

In the mean time, the climate bill is worthless as it stands. It has been so watered down that it will basically have no effect what so ever when and if it's ever implimented.

We are speeding toward the cliff and instead of slamming on the breaks people are flooring the gas peddle.

we had a great ride, did some interesting things, none of which was all that important, when you take them in the larger context. That context being that the earth as we know it, is ending.

they are wishing really hard if they (the powers that be) think we are going to limit the temp rise to only 2 degrees globally. So very amusing. At current models and by the real climatologists out there (not economists from the epa claiming to be one), we are looking at at least a 4 degree rise. And by a mild definition, that is a civilization ender. there will be people around but the concept of large cities or organized city states will have gone with the wind or in this case got with the heat.

Think of a world returning to roughly the 13th century with good sprinkling of todays tech.

I'm middle aged, I won't live long enough to see the full effect, but todays generation will. This is why I'm so thankful I never had kids. I don't have to explain to them how we completely screwed up this planet.

flame if you want. It's your only outlet other than whistling past the grave yard.

So you are telling us that for 20 years while average solar flux declined and global temperatures rose you decided to question the validity spectral physics???

Maybe you should start with something simpler and easier to understand than the IPCC Assessment Reports.

GEORGIACT,

Your first link is to a paper where they study land temperatures. Since the land responds faster to changes in solar flux than the oceans there is nothing surprising in their findings.

Your second link is to a denialist web sites and is not a credible source.

Wikipedia and Global Wrming Art are acceptable links as long as they are well cited. Global Warming Art and Wikipedia are both transparent. You can go directly to the cited data sources and make your own graph if you think they made a mistake.

Really?

You never heard of GLIMS?

That is an acronym for Global Land Ice Measurements from Space. (NSIDC)

Maybe you should more thoroughly study real scienctific sources and lay off the junk science.

The difference between us is that I read everything and decide whether the conclusions or opinions are supported by the science whereas you will not read and evaluate anything from a source you deem tainted.  Thus, you can never have a complete understanding of the arguments of both sides or the holes in the arguments of either side.

So, maybe you can point me to where the AGW theory has been proven!  I have not seen the proof yet.  Actually, the proof against it appears to be piling up.

By the way, I live in So. NE and have yet to put in my window A/C units because it has hardly reached 80 degrees and the nights are still cold.  i usually have to put them in before May ends.  Sure sounds like warming here... or maybe its climate change, just in the oposite direction.

AGW and cap and trade will not be embraced by America until the USA convenes its own non-biased 'climate truth commission'  and it finds AGW valid.  One does not need to be a scientist to review the United Nations' IPCC 2007 Climate Report and understand the fix was in.  In the UN's own words (p 95) "The topics have been chosen...for understanding the risks of human-induced climate change."  Since they did not consider whether Mother Nature was the cause of global warming, it is no surprise they found CO2 guilty.

--Robert Moen, http://www.energyplanusa.com