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            <title>Comment #1 by MUD SIREN</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-22-colin-peterson-villain/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:18:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Is this outlaw a Democrat or a Republican? It says R on the mug shot, and D in the text. Maybe your error is a serendipitous reminder that both sides of the isle have created a US farm policy that strangles agricullture in developing economies. Whenever that ADM ad ran on the News Hour&mdash;the maudlin one about feeding the world&mdash;I would gag on my Fritos imagining the hosts of poor farmers in the rest of the world who now need food aid from ADM to feed their families. God save us from the crimes of the missionaries.</p>
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				<p>Is this outlaw a Democrat or a Republican? It says R on the mug shot, and D in the text. Maybe your error is a serendipitous reminder that both sides of the isle have created a US farm policy that strangles agricullture in developing economies. Whenever that ADM ad ran on the News Hour&mdash;the maudlin one about feeding the world&mdash;I would gag on my Fritos imagining the hosts of poor farmers in the rest of the world who now need food aid from ADM to feed their families. God save us from the crimes of the missionaries.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by schahczenski</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:05:03 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Thanks Tom,</p><p>The issue is that production agriculture can AT BEST&nbsp; offset 4-5% of annual U.S. GHG emissions... And that can only be done if we set high standards on how such offsets are calculated, their ultimate price and how well the program is administered, something better left to the EPA that doesn't have a vested intereste in Big AG Business (NOT farmers and ranchers). If Peterson thinks that the EPA is in "bed" with corporations that want to end corn ethanol, then he is clearly in bed with the likes of Monsanto,etc. who want to see greater sales of round-up to support no-till under soil carbon sequestration standards that can't be measured accurate enough to provide legitimate offsets. There are also reports that Waxman offered Peterson a new program that would support farmers and ranchers who adopted practices that would move them toward more climate friendly farming and ranching. Its a deal Peterson should have taken because it would have taken famers and ranchers&nbsp; out of the crazy gaming going on with offsets, but still benefit sustainable farmers and ranchers.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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				<p>Thanks Tom,</p><p>The issue is that production agriculture can AT BEST&nbsp; offset 4-5% of annual U.S. GHG emissions... And that can only be done if we set high standards on how such offsets are calculated, their ultimate price and how well the program is administered, something better left to the EPA that doesn't have a vested intereste in Big AG Business (NOT farmers and ranchers). If Peterson thinks that the EPA is in "bed" with corporations that want to end corn ethanol, then he is clearly in bed with the likes of Monsanto,etc. who want to see greater sales of round-up to support no-till under soil carbon sequestration standards that can't be measured accurate enough to provide legitimate offsets. There are also reports that Waxman offered Peterson a new program that would support farmers and ranchers who adopted practices that would move them toward more climate friendly farming and ranching. Its a deal Peterson should have taken because it would have taken famers and ranchers&nbsp; out of the crazy gaming going on with offsets, but still benefit sustainable farmers and ranchers.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Tom Philpott</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:19:07 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Thanks for the correction re: Peterson's affiliation in the image. It's being fixed as I type this.</p>
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				<p>Thanks for the correction re: Peterson's affiliation in the image. It's being fixed as I type this.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Keith Goetzman</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:44:06 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Tom,<p>Nice post, and dead-on. Green-minded people ought to contact Peterson's office--but be forewarned that he's inclined to ignore comments from anyone outside his district, and phone is the best way to reach him. Read my post about his bizarre feedback policy at <a href="http://www.utne.com/Environment/Greens-Dont-Let-This-Democrat-Weaken-the-Climate-Bill.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.utne.com/Environment/Greens-Dont-Let-This-Democrat-Weaken-the-Climate-Bill.aspx.<p>Keith Goetzman<p>Utne Reader</p></p></a></p></p>
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				<p>Tom,<p>Nice post, and dead-on. Green-minded people ought to contact Peterson's office--but be forewarned that he's inclined to ignore comments from anyone outside his district, and phone is the best way to reach him. Read my post about his bizarre feedback policy at <a href="http://www.utne.com/Environment/Greens-Dont-Let-This-Democrat-Weaken-the-Climate-Bill.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.utne.com/Environment/Greens-Dont-Let-This-Democrat-Weaken-the-Climate-Bill.aspx.<p>Keith Goetzman<p>Utne Reader</p></p></a></p></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by urbanfoodguy</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:27:37 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Geez, I know it was way back in November, but didn't we vote for change?&nbsp;</p><p>Didn't we vote so this kind of shit wouldn't go down on our watch?&nbsp; Why is this Peterson guy even a democrat if he acts like a republican?&nbsp;</p><p>Why do I feel so helpless?&nbsp; What's Obama doing?????&nbsp;</p><p>Wow, how depressing.&nbsp;</p><p>Thanks for all the good news Tom ;-)&nbsp; Great work as always.</p><p>I'll link it to my blog, there's got to be some kind protest about this.</p><p>urbanfoodguy.blogspot.com</p><p>Mark Owen</p>
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				<p>Geez, I know it was way back in November, but didn't we vote for change?&nbsp;</p><p>Didn't we vote so this kind of shit wouldn't go down on our watch?&nbsp; Why is this Peterson guy even a democrat if he acts like a republican?&nbsp;</p><p>Why do I feel so helpless?&nbsp; What's Obama doing?????&nbsp;</p><p>Wow, how depressing.&nbsp;</p><p>Thanks for all the good news Tom ;-)&nbsp; Great work as always.</p><p>I'll link it to my blog, there's got to be some kind protest about this.</p><p>urbanfoodguy.blogspot.com</p><p>Mark Owen</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:01:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p><a href="../../../2009-06-23-agriculture-climate-waxman/" rel="nofollow">Russ Walker's post has this quote:<p>&ldquo;agreed to ask the EPA to roll back its new requirements that farmers offset rural land developed in other countries.&rdquo;<p>I take it they are talking about <a href="http://www.epa.gov/otaq/renewablefuels/420f09024.htm" rel="nofollow">this study that has eliminated corn ethanol and soy biodiesel as low carbon fuels in California because they cause deforestation in other parts of the world.<p>This same study was just used by <a href="http://biodiversivist.blogspot.com/2009/06/seattle-drops-crop-based-biodiesel.html" rel="nofollow">Seattle and Berkeley to drop use of biodiesel.<p>All seems rather comical to subsidize and mandate the use of fuels that are worse for global warming than fossil fuels. Take a look at the <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2009367152_guest22plaza.html" rel="nofollow">comment field of this op-ed. At what point will politicians in blue states start responding to this biofuel backlash? Why don't we stop federal subsidies and mandates and let the red states fund their own mandates and subsidies instead of robbing the blue states? The answer of course is that they can't afford to do that. This is a wealth transfer scheme. Give me your primary votes and we will funnel blue state cash to you.<p>&nbsp;<p>&nbsp;<p>&nbsp;</p></p></p></a></p></a></p></a></p></p></a></p>
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				<p><a href="../../../2009-06-23-agriculture-climate-waxman/" rel="nofollow">Russ Walker's post has this quote:<p>&ldquo;agreed to ask the EPA to roll back its new requirements that farmers offset rural land developed in other countries.&rdquo;<p>I take it they are talking about <a href="http://www.epa.gov/otaq/renewablefuels/420f09024.htm" rel="nofollow">this study that has eliminated corn ethanol and soy biodiesel as low carbon fuels in California because they cause deforestation in other parts of the world.<p>This same study was just used by <a href="http://biodiversivist.blogspot.com/2009/06/seattle-drops-crop-based-biodiesel.html" rel="nofollow">Seattle and Berkeley to drop use of biodiesel.<p>All seems rather comical to subsidize and mandate the use of fuels that are worse for global warming than fossil fuels. Take a look at the <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2009367152_guest22plaza.html" rel="nofollow">comment field of this op-ed. At what point will politicians in blue states start responding to this biofuel backlash? Why don't we stop federal subsidies and mandates and let the red states fund their own mandates and subsidies instead of robbing the blue states? The answer of course is that they can't afford to do that. This is a wealth transfer scheme. Give me your primary votes and we will funnel blue state cash to you.<p>&nbsp;<p>&nbsp;<p>&nbsp;</p></p></p></a></p></a></p></a></p></p></a></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Stephanie Ogburn</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:34:32 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Looks like there will be an offsets market for ag, regulated by USDA, if this <a href="http://www.farmfutures.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=CD26BEDECA4A4946A1283CC7786AEB5A&nm=News&type=news&mod=News&mid=9A02E3B96F2A415ABC72CB5F516B4C10&tier=3&nid=15EC38B8290C4DEDB447B62D0D6184D0" rel="nofollow">article is correct. Basically, this is pure politics. It's a great lesson in how science and good practice is trumped by special interests, and how the Senate gives inordinate power to individual senators who represent tiny special interest groups.<p>&nbsp;</p></a></p>
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				<p>Looks like there will be an offsets market for ag, regulated by USDA, if this <a href="http://www.farmfutures.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=CD26BEDECA4A4946A1283CC7786AEB5A&nm=News&type=news&mod=News&mid=9A02E3B96F2A415ABC72CB5F516B4C10&tier=3&nid=15EC38B8290C4DEDB447B62D0D6184D0" rel="nofollow">article is correct. Basically, this is pure politics. It's a great lesson in how science and good practice is trumped by special interests, and how the Senate gives inordinate power to individual senators who represent tiny special interest groups.<p>&nbsp;</p></a></p>
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