<![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for White House hopes new climate report is a ‘game-changer’]]> Grist Comment Feed en Comment #1 by Global Changes http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/ Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:58:57 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/1 Just look at what is already happening in Australia due to global warming. The hottest places will be hit first by climate change, those in south America will start to see these sort of effects.

]]> Just look at what is already happening in Australia due to global warming. The hottest places will be hit first by climate change, those in south America will start to see these sort of effects.

]]> Comment #2 by randino http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/ Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:09:01 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/2 You gotta be kidding to think this report will have its desired impact on those who must be moved inorder to derail our merry trip over the falls.  First, a significant percentage of Congress - moslty in the Republican camp - do not believe in science.  Second, a significant number of  Americans don't believe in science.  Third, too many of our leaders in the private and public sector, could not give a damn about the future past the date of their life expectancy or retirement.  The only thing they care about is the next election or the next quarterly report.  The generations that are to come, won't be voting for them, and won't be buying their products or services.  To hell with them.  Which is precisely where the report says we will be sending them.     

Randy Cunningham  Cleveland OH

 

]]> You gotta be kidding to think this report will have its desired impact on those who must be moved inorder to derail our merry trip over the falls.  First, a significant percentage of Congress - moslty in the Republican camp - do not believe in science.  Second, a significant number of  Americans don't believe in science.  Third, too many of our leaders in the private and public sector, could not give a damn about the future past the date of their life expectancy or retirement.  The only thing they care about is the next election or the next quarterly report.  The generations that are to come, won't be voting for them, and won't be buying their products or services.  To hell with them.  Which is precisely where the report says we will be sending them.     

Randy Cunningham  Cleveland OH

 

]]> Comment #3 by setb http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/ Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:01:49 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/3 Better than nothing-- but I hope this is just the beginning.

]]> Better than nothing-- but I hope this is just the beginning.

]]> Comment #4 by Anna Haynes http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/ Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:11:59 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/4 "Relax ... it's only the end of the world!"
"What's so funny about drought, blight and coastal flooding?"
"Things that are funny:
    * Probably untrue, but still funny: PETA mad at Obama for killing fly
    * Protesters get goosed
    * Poo-pourri"

While I'm pretty sure this witzelsucht-afflicted Grist writer is a warm-hearted, good, wonderful person, his/her efforts need to be redirected to the "cute and inconsequential" subsections of Grist, not visible on the front page, so people who see global climate disruption as a crisis don't have our concerns trivialized.

Barring that, could we have a Gristmill "home page" again, please, so we don't have to wade through the fluffy stuff?

 

 






]]> "Relax ... it's only the end of the world!"
"What's so funny about drought, blight and coastal flooding?"
"Things that are funny:
    * Probably untrue, but still funny: PETA mad at Obama for killing fly
    * Protesters get goosed
    * Poo-pourri"

While I'm pretty sure this witzelsucht-afflicted Grist writer is a warm-hearted, good, wonderful person, his/her efforts need to be redirected to the "cute and inconsequential" subsections of Grist, not visible on the front page, so people who see global climate disruption as a crisis don't have our concerns trivialized.

Barring that, could we have a Gristmill "home page" again, please, so we don't have to wade through the fluffy stuff?

 

 






]]> Comment #5 by nmveit http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/ Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:52:55 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/5 I rarely add a comment, but I felt like I needed to reply to this one.

While I am not the author of this article, I think it is pretty obvious that the title "Relax......it's only the end of the world!" is aimed at those who for many many years now have been ignoring the scientific facts and mere idea of climate change.  Those that have been telling scientists and activists alike to relax......it's not a problem.....it's a natural occurrence.....blah blah blah!  The author Kate Sheppard is clearly on the side of science and facts.  So Anna Haynes, maybe instead of putting down someone who is clearly an advocate of climate change (obvious throughout the article), you could better direct your energy toward those who need to be educated in the facts and science behind global warming.  I too am very passionate about a range of environmental issues (not just global warming), however I choose to focus on the facts and science, rather than 'slinging mud' at people and the issues.  There's enough people out there that are in opposition to environmental issues that 'sling mud' at the people fighting for these causes, we don't need more of them.  The many environmental issues that exist need people that are passionate about them, like you, but that approach the issues with knowledge, facts, science, and respect.

]]> I rarely add a comment, but I felt like I needed to reply to this one.

While I am not the author of this article, I think it is pretty obvious that the title "Relax......it's only the end of the world!" is aimed at those who for many many years now have been ignoring the scientific facts and mere idea of climate change.  Those that have been telling scientists and activists alike to relax......it's not a problem.....it's a natural occurrence.....blah blah blah!  The author Kate Sheppard is clearly on the side of science and facts.  So Anna Haynes, maybe instead of putting down someone who is clearly an advocate of climate change (obvious throughout the article), you could better direct your energy toward those who need to be educated in the facts and science behind global warming.  I too am very passionate about a range of environmental issues (not just global warming), however I choose to focus on the facts and science, rather than 'slinging mud' at people and the issues.  There's enough people out there that are in opposition to environmental issues that 'sling mud' at the people fighting for these causes, we don't need more of them.  The many environmental issues that exist need people that are passionate about them, like you, but that approach the issues with knowledge, facts, science, and respect.

]]> Comment #6 by Anna Haynes http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/ Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:02:02 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/6 The jokey-jokey tone is a consistent problem at Grist - I didn't mean to single out this one headline, or this one author.  If you're trying to wake up a slumbering populace to a civilization-threatening danger, treating it, consistently, as a joking matter, is not the way to go.  Can you imagine this tone being used regarding Pearl Harbor?  9/11?  by your doctor when informing you that you've got a life-threatening disease?  IMO it's not constructive.

 

]]> The jokey-jokey tone is a consistent problem at Grist - I didn't mean to single out this one headline, or this one author.  If you're trying to wake up a slumbering populace to a civilization-threatening danger, treating it, consistently, as a joking matter, is not the way to go.  Can you imagine this tone being used regarding Pearl Harbor?  9/11?  by your doctor when informing you that you've got a life-threatening disease?  IMO it's not constructive.

 

]]> Comment #7 by nmveit http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/ Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:03:32 -0700 http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06-16-climate-science-impacts-usa/7 Actually......it's not a jokey-jokey tone.  It's called sarcasm!  And I understand that some people get and like sarcasm, while others just don't get it or like it.  Difference of opinion, and I respect that you just don't like sarcasm.  However, my point was to shift the focus from the miniscule one-liners, titles, or headlines to the more important, larger picture.  The only part of this article that is sarcastic is the headline......the rest of the article is informative, serious, and definitely relaying the message that the global warming issue has been ignored and/or made irrelevant for far to long.  She states the facts, which is absolutely constructive!  She is most definitely NOT treating climate change as a joke!  Have you even read the rest of the article?  You are making this claim that the author is treating the issue of climate change as a joking matter strictly based on the headline.  And obviously you don't like the sarcastic headline, but that shouldn't be the deciding factor of whether an article is informative.  This article has a plethera of information, as do many of her and other Grist author's articles.  I think you are taking the headline out of context and completely missing the point of the article, as many many politicians and publicity do on a daily basis and it's ridiculous!  It's obvious that the headline was not geared toward global warming activists, but if that is what you want to keep thinking, then so be it.  I, on the other hand, choose to try and not let trivial little things get to me.  Approaching things rationally and with a level head is the most effective way to handle things, but maybe that's just me!  That's all I have to say on this ridiculous, unsubstantiated claim!

]]> Actually......it's not a jokey-jokey tone.  It's called sarcasm!  And I understand that some people get and like sarcasm, while others just don't get it or like it.  Difference of opinion, and I respect that you just don't like sarcasm.  However, my point was to shift the focus from the miniscule one-liners, titles, or headlines to the more important, larger picture.  The only part of this article that is sarcastic is the headline......the rest of the article is informative, serious, and definitely relaying the message that the global warming issue has been ignored and/or made irrelevant for far to long.  She states the facts, which is absolutely constructive!  She is most definitely NOT treating climate change as a joke!  Have you even read the rest of the article?  You are making this claim that the author is treating the issue of climate change as a joking matter strictly based on the headline.  And obviously you don't like the sarcastic headline, but that shouldn't be the deciding factor of whether an article is informative.  This article has a plethera of information, as do many of her and other Grist author's articles.  I think you are taking the headline out of context and completely missing the point of the article, as many many politicians and publicity do on a daily basis and it's ridiculous!  It's obvious that the headline was not geared toward global warming activists, but if that is what you want to keep thinking, then so be it.  I, on the other hand, choose to try and not let trivial little things get to me.  Approaching things rationally and with a level head is the most effective way to handle things, but maybe that's just me!  That's all I have to say on this ridiculous, unsubstantiated claim!

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