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            <title>Comment #1 by Spence</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:33:22 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Chinese cars are coming, no doubt, and China has a lot of incentives to leapfrog existing technology and bring electric cars to market (they have next to no domestic oil production). But if I were a betting man, I'd place my money on BYD being the first company to crack the U.S. with a Chinese plug-in fully street legal four wheeler. They are promising a vehicle that would be significantly cheaper as well.</p><p>I hope these dudes have some deep pockets either way, cuz it's gonna take a lot of investment to break into the U.S. It took Hyundai a solid decade of sales and marketing before people started really considering Korean cars, and they were one of the biggest auto manufacturers in the world at the time. No one wants to take a chance on a car company that might not be around in a decade.</p>
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				<p>Chinese cars are coming, no doubt, and China has a lot of incentives to leapfrog existing technology and bring electric cars to market (they have next to no domestic oil production). But if I were a betting man, I'd place my money on BYD being the first company to crack the U.S. with a Chinese plug-in fully street legal four wheeler. They are promising a vehicle that would be significantly cheaper as well.</p><p>I hope these dudes have some deep pockets either way, cuz it's gonna take a lot of investment to break into the U.S. It took Hyundai a solid decade of sales and marketing before people started really considering Korean cars, and they were one of the biggest auto manufacturers in the world at the time. No one wants to take a chance on a car company that might not be around in a decade.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by ukr50</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:48:44 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Did they say anything about charging stations? &nbsp;With some plug-ins you have to buy a home charging station.</p>
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				<p>Did they say anything about charging stations? &nbsp;With some plug-ins you have to buy a home charging station.</p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by Alida Antonia Cornelius</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 04:20:55 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>So many many people commute far distances to go to work, sometimes 70 miles each way. These cars MAY appeal to city folk with money, but without charging stations in every parking garage, I don't see them becoming mainstream any time soon or even within five years.</p><p>And another problem with cars today, you have to have a degree in engineering to tinker with them yourself if there is a minor problem with them.</p><p>A graduate from IIT of Madras once told me, "The country which develops a battery to store solar energy will rule the world."</p><p>That's the battery I am waiting for.</p>
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				<p>So many many people commute far distances to go to work, sometimes 70 miles each way. These cars MAY appeal to city folk with money, but without charging stations in every parking garage, I don't see them becoming mainstream any time soon or even within five years.</p><p>And another problem with cars today, you have to have a degree in engineering to tinker with them yourself if there is a minor problem with them.</p><p>A graduate from IIT of Madras once told me, "The country which develops a battery to store solar energy will rule the world."</p><p>That's the battery I am waiting for.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by joeburge</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:45:58 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Oil=Bad, Electric=Good?&nbsp;</p><p>So Electricity is free?&nbsp; Forty-Eight percent of electricity is produced from coal, twenty percent from Natural Gas, and Nineteen percent from Nuclear (2007 data).&nbsp; Just because you don't see it pumped out of the ground does not mean it is "Free"?&nbsp; Until "We" stop driving to the store, or sitting in the parking lot with the AC running, it doesn't matter if we are burning petroleum, or an energy transport made from petroleum?</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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				<p>Oil=Bad, Electric=Good?&nbsp;</p><p>So Electricity is free?&nbsp; Forty-Eight percent of electricity is produced from coal, twenty percent from Natural Gas, and Nineteen percent from Nuclear (2007 data).&nbsp; Just because you don't see it pumped out of the ground does not mean it is "Free"?&nbsp; Until "We" stop driving to the store, or sitting in the parking lot with the AC running, it doesn't matter if we are burning petroleum, or an energy transport made from petroleum?</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by joeburge</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:53:54 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>Why not a CAV?&nbsp;</p><p>That stands for "Compressed Air Vehicle"&nbsp;</p><p>http://www.mdi.lu/english/</p><p>These are the first possibly carbon-less vehicles.&nbsp; But no one is touting this technology, why not?&nbsp; They get the same performance, require a new infrastructure investment, and a paradigm shift in thinking.&nbsp; But unlike electric, we are not trading one evil for another to prolong the petroleum slide.</p>
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				<p>Why not a CAV?&nbsp;</p><p>That stands for "Compressed Air Vehicle"&nbsp;</p><p>http://www.mdi.lu/english/</p><p>These are the first possibly carbon-less vehicles.&nbsp; But no one is touting this technology, why not?&nbsp; They get the same performance, require a new infrastructure investment, and a paradigm shift in thinking.&nbsp; But unlike electric, we are not trading one evil for another to prolong the petroleum slide.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Catmoves</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:09:24 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>A China made $45,000 car? Gee whiz, Batman, they can't even make a $20 lamp without having it recalled. For funsies, maybe they'll let me know when hell freezes over?</p>
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				<p>A China made $45,000 car? Gee whiz, Batman, they can't even make a $20 lamp without having it recalled. For funsies, maybe they'll let me know when hell freezes over?</p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by Alida Antonia Cornelius</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:32:12 -0700</pubDate>
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				<p>LOL!</p><p>You got it right!</p><p> </p>
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				<p>LOL!</p><p>You got it right!</p><p> </p>
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