<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom">
<channel>
	<title><![CDATA[Grist - Comment Feed for Kyoto stove wins $75,000 FT climate change innovation competition]]></title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.grist.org/rss/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<description>Grist Comment Feed</description>
	<language>en</language>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #1 by Delay And Deny</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:44:55 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/1</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				<p>Great idea...but I thought it was us 1st worlders and our cars that were causing Global Warming?&nbsp;&nbsp; Now you say it's been the hut dwellers all along??</p>
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				<p>Great idea...but I thought it was us 1st worlders and our cars that were causing Global Warming?&nbsp;&nbsp; Now you say it's been the hut dwellers all along??</p>
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #2 by RUserious</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:26:12 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/2</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				<p>I thought new had to be new to be new?</p><p>I am all for solar cookers (I have designed and built several of them myself), but, I am not thilled about someone winning a $75,000 prize for an invention that has been around for several hundred years.&nbsp; This solar box cooker looks like the one Napoleon's troops were using in the mid 1800's.&nbsp; The only apparent difference is cardboard instead of wood and plexiglass instead of glass.&nbsp; I wish I would have entered their competition!&nbsp;</p>
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				<p>I thought new had to be new to be new?</p><p>I am all for solar cookers (I have designed and built several of them myself), but, I am not thilled about someone winning a $75,000 prize for an invention that has been around for several hundred years.&nbsp; This solar box cooker looks like the one Napoleon's troops were using in the mid 1800's.&nbsp; The only apparent difference is cardboard instead of wood and plexiglass instead of glass.&nbsp; I wish I would have entered their competition!&nbsp;</p>
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #3 by amazingdrx</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:22:28 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/3</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				<p>Great stove design, any video available of it in action?<p>"The other finalists were Carbonscape, a joint New Zealand/UK venture to fix biomass carbon by turning wood into biocharâ€”a kind of charcoal that can be used as soil conditioner, buried as a carbon sink, or burnt as a highly-efficient fuel"<p>Wheeew, this points out EXACTLY what is wrong with biochar. Many misinformed people will believe that burning the biochar "as a highly-efficient fuel" will actually result in GHG savings.<p>twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/amazingdrx" rel="nofollow">@amazingdrxÂ <a href="http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog" rel="nofollow">blog</a></a></p></p></p></p>
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				<p>Great stove design, any video available of it in action?<p>"The other finalists were Carbonscape, a joint New Zealand/UK venture to fix biomass carbon by turning wood into biocharâ€”a kind of charcoal that can be used as soil conditioner, buried as a carbon sink, or burnt as a highly-efficient fuel"<p>Wheeew, this points out EXACTLY what is wrong with biochar. Many misinformed people will believe that burning the biochar "as a highly-efficient fuel" will actually result in GHG savings.<p>twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/amazingdrx" rel="nofollow">@amazingdrxÂ <a href="http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog" rel="nofollow">blog</a></a></p></p></p></p>
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #4 by Pangolin</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:11:15 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/4</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				<p>I'm going to show up next year with a juice can, rocket stove and kick patootie. Did I read this correctly or did somebody just win $75K for inventing the hay box? OK so it has some aluminum foil, black paint and  sheet of acrylic to get the temperature up a bit. A fine improvement over three stone fires on clear days for people otherwise unoccupied.  <br /><br />I get that it will reduce deforestation in extremely stressed areas but rocket stoves would do that and yield small amounts of biochar (see the runner up) that could be used to improve the productivity of kitchen gardens like these people (<a href="http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/node/1055" rel="nofollow">http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/node/1055) in India. Of course, ultimately feeding people doesn't reduce deforestation because they go and make more people. <br /><br />Could somebody please explain to me how this is going to prevent the burning of gigatons of coal? Anyone?</br></br></a></br></br></p>
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				<p>I'm going to show up next year with a juice can, rocket stove and kick patootie. Did I read this correctly or did somebody just win $75K for inventing the hay box? OK so it has some aluminum foil, black paint and  sheet of acrylic to get the temperature up a bit. A fine improvement over three stone fires on clear days for people otherwise unoccupied.  <br /><br />I get that it will reduce deforestation in extremely stressed areas but rocket stoves would do that and yield small amounts of biochar (see the runner up) that could be used to improve the productivity of kitchen gardens like these people (<a href="http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/node/1055" rel="nofollow">http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/node/1055) in India. Of course, ultimately feeding people doesn't reduce deforestation because they go and make more people. <br /><br />Could somebody please explain to me how this is going to prevent the burning of gigatons of coal? Anyone?</br></br></a></br></br></p>
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #5 by andrewbacon</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:29:24 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/5</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				<p>It's not just one or the other!Â  Damn the Western binary thinking!Â  Either the first worlders OR the hut dwellers - it couldn't possibly be a mix of the two?</p><p>There are millions of poor people in the "developing" world that go out and cut down forests to burn for fuel... the forests are a carbon sink, which is destroyed in this process, and the burning creates more greenhouse gases.</p><p>We are, despite this, still driving our cars and expelling greenhouse gases AT THE SAME TIME.Â  BOTH things are happening SIMULTANEOUSLY.Â  AT THE SAME TIME.</p>
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				<p>It's not just one or the other!Â  Damn the Western binary thinking!Â  Either the first worlders OR the hut dwellers - it couldn't possibly be a mix of the two?</p><p>There are millions of poor people in the "developing" world that go out and cut down forests to burn for fuel... the forests are a carbon sink, which is destroyed in this process, and the burning creates more greenhouse gases.</p><p>We are, despite this, still driving our cars and expelling greenhouse gases AT THE SAME TIME.Â  BOTH things are happening SIMULTANEOUSLY.Â  AT THE SAME TIME.</p>
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #6 by goldengirl</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:06:03 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/6</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				Me too! This has been around a very, very long time. And they didn't even change a thing!
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				Me too! This has been around a very, very long time. And they didn't even change a thing!
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #7 by goldengirl</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:06:50 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/7</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				Me too! This has been around a very, very long time. And they didn't even change a thing!
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				Me too! This has been around a very, very long time. And they didn't even change a thing!
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #8 by solarkismet</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:09:37 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/8</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				<p>Really not new; at all.<p>&nbsp;<p>There an entire organization that is dedicated to solar cookers and working to implement them in communities across the world:<p>&nbsp;<p>Solar Cookers International<p><a href="http://solarcookers.org/" rel="nofollow">http://solarcookers.org/</a></p></p></p></p></p></p>
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				<p>Really not new; at all.<p>&nbsp;<p>There an entire organization that is dedicated to solar cookers and working to implement them in communities across the world:<p>&nbsp;<p>Solar Cookers International<p><a href="http://solarcookers.org/" rel="nofollow">http://solarcookers.org/</a></p></p></p></p></p></p>
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #9 by bschalle</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:54:16 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/9</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				<p>I'll concur with this: Nothing new under the sun here.</p><p>I would have been more impressed if the grand prize winner won for his vastly successful marketing plan for this version of the solar cooker. It's great to be creative and improve the design of solar cookers to adapt to different communities so that people actually use them. With appropriate technology, the problem is always marketing.&nbsp;</p><p>It says in the article that the inventor hopes to bring the solar cooker to developing countries (maybe starting in Kenya, where he's based) to "build acceptiblity" for the product. I wish him the best of luck, because in my experience working with appropriate technology in Cameroon, that is by far the greatest challenge, not the design necessarily.&nbsp;</p>
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				<p>I'll concur with this: Nothing new under the sun here.</p><p>I would have been more impressed if the grand prize winner won for his vastly successful marketing plan for this version of the solar cooker. It's great to be creative and improve the design of solar cookers to adapt to different communities so that people actually use them. With appropriate technology, the problem is always marketing.&nbsp;</p><p>It says in the article that the inventor hopes to bring the solar cooker to developing countries (maybe starting in Kenya, where he's based) to "build acceptiblity" for the product. I wish him the best of luck, because in my experience working with appropriate technology in Cameroon, that is by far the greatest challenge, not the design necessarily.&nbsp;</p>
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #10 by jajagabor</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:36:34 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/10</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				I don't mind the person(s) getting the 75k for this, even though the idea is about as unique as collecting rainwater in a cistern or other container.  What I don't get is why there aren't any makers of one of these devices (maybe about 10-20 times scaled up) that heats water for a radiator system &#40;or radiant floor system&#41; for a house (or houses).  Cooking food and sterilizing water are great, of course, but why stop there?  Heating water with wood rather than coal etc. is also great, but why spend so much energy and time cutting wood?  At least use the wood as a backup . . . I mean this is the solar age, fellow greenies, or no?

Like the wood-fired "waterstoves" that abound in the market, a solar cooker that heated water would really slam-dunk one's energy costs for heat into maybe nothing (depending on the size of the cooker relative to the building it was meant to heat).  In any case, the sun if free, right?

Well, I guess I'll just have to wait while all the "genius" entrepreneurs out there get the same idea.
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				I don't mind the person(s) getting the 75k for this, even though the idea is about as unique as collecting rainwater in a cistern or other container.  What I don't get is why there aren't any makers of one of these devices (maybe about 10-20 times scaled up) that heats water for a radiator system &#40;or radiant floor system&#41; for a house (or houses).  Cooking food and sterilizing water are great, of course, but why stop there?  Heating water with wood rather than coal etc. is also great, but why spend so much energy and time cutting wood?  At least use the wood as a backup . . . I mean this is the solar age, fellow greenies, or no?

Like the wood-fired "waterstoves" that abound in the market, a solar cooker that heated water would really slam-dunk one's energy costs for heat into maybe nothing (depending on the size of the cooker relative to the building it was meant to heat).  In any case, the sun if free, right?

Well, I guess I'll just have to wait while all the "genius" entrepreneurs out there get the same idea.
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #11 by Delay And Deny</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:05:10 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/11</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				<p>Either the first worlders OR the hut dwellers - it couldn't possibly be a mix of the two?</p><p>Since both emit CO2, it's obviously a mix, but how much of a mix?&nbsp; The idea that the split in CO2 production of wood burning mud dwellers and car driving concrete dwellers would be 50/50 boggles the mind.</p><p>It's more likely to be an order of magnitude difference, by my guess...and also, by my guess, I'd pin the blame on the mud dwellers.&nbsp;&nbsp; Move everyone into clean, green exurbian spawl with modern kitchens and CO2 bloat goes away.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				<p>Either the first worlders OR the hut dwellers - it couldn't possibly be a mix of the two?</p><p>Since both emit CO2, it's obviously a mix, but how much of a mix?&nbsp; The idea that the split in CO2 production of wood burning mud dwellers and car driving concrete dwellers would be 50/50 boggles the mind.</p><p>It's more likely to be an order of magnitude difference, by my guess...and also, by my guess, I'd pin the blame on the mud dwellers.&nbsp;&nbsp; Move everyone into clean, green exurbian spawl with modern kitchens and CO2 bloat goes away.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #12 by andrewbacon</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:46:57 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/12</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				<p>ok, now you're killing me.&nbsp; Certainly not 50/50 either - the exact proportions&nbsp;are unknown to&nbsp;me.&nbsp; How about just fixing whatever problems we can find, including both of these?</p><p>Oh, and if I had to bet, I'd bet that it was mostly the first world's fault - we're the ones that have the machines to multiply productivity, and productivity = CO2.</p>
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				<p>ok, now you're killing me.&nbsp; Certainly not 50/50 either - the exact proportions&nbsp;are unknown to&nbsp;me.&nbsp; How about just fixing whatever problems we can find, including both of these?</p><p>Oh, and if I had to bet, I'd bet that it was mostly the first world's fault - we're the ones that have the machines to multiply productivity, and productivity = CO2.</p>
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #13 by A Siegel</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:08:31 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/13</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				<p>Absolutely agree.</p><p><br />How anyone could call this "innovative" is beyond me.</p><p><br />Great that $75k more is going to solar cookers, but it might have been better spent giving it to people who have actual experience tackling the challenges of gaining social acceptance of solar cookers in various environments. Solar Cooking International; SHE, Inc; etc ... There are people already making this work in the real world -- and even with systems that don't even cost $6.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Have to say that the article here is a joke. No reference to any of the organizations or other solar cooking organizations out there.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>No links to options for solar cooking in the developed world.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>No ...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>What a waste of a prize ... what a waste of a post ...</p></br></br>
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				<p>Absolutely agree.</p><p><br />How anyone could call this "innovative" is beyond me.</p><p><br />Great that $75k more is going to solar cookers, but it might have been better spent giving it to people who have actual experience tackling the challenges of gaining social acceptance of solar cookers in various environments. Solar Cooking International; SHE, Inc; etc ... There are people already making this work in the real world -- and even with systems that don't even cost $6.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Have to say that the article here is a joke. No reference to any of the organizations or other solar cooking organizations out there.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>No links to options for solar cooking in the developed world.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>No ...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>What a waste of a prize ... what a waste of a post ...</p></br></br>
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #14 by andrewbacon</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:21:05 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/14</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				I've seen solar ovens before, but not one that was made out of such common and inexpensive materials... there's gotta be a reason.
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				I've seen solar ovens before, but not one that was made out of such common and inexpensive materials... there's gotta be a reason.
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #15 by swan</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:00:30 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/15</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				From the Solar Cookers International website: "Since its founding in 1987, SCI has enabled 30,000 families in Africa to cook with the sun's energy, freeing women and children from the burdens of gathering firewood . . . ."

I think they should have donated the $75,000 to this group!
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				From the Solar Cookers International website: "Since its founding in 1987, SCI has enabled 30,000 families in Africa to cook with the sun's energy, freeing women and children from the burdens of gathering firewood . . . ."

I think they should have donated the $75,000 to this group!
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #16 by Ben Tuxworth</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 05:09:38 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/16</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				<p>Thanks for all these comments...</p><p>The problem with innovation is never a shortage of ideas - the patents offices have thousands and thousands of great ideas registered over the years, that never made it to market.&nbsp; Our competition was about finding innovations that were market ready and therefore promising as investment opportunities.&nbsp; We did know that there are variations on the&nbsp;solar oven idea already out there,&nbsp;but&nbsp;the innovative element of the Kyoto box&nbsp;was the simplicity of&nbsp;approach, using existing manufacturing&nbsp;processes (initially a cardboard factory in Kenya, now developing a&nbsp;more durable plastic version&nbsp;in Indonesia) and simple&nbsp;resources to offer a full kit. As a result these boxes are cheap enough to retail in Africa and have a significant impact - &nbsp;this&nbsp;could be cost neutral if carbon credits are factored in as part of an offset project.&nbsp;</p><p>And don't forget this was a competition -&nbsp;&nbsp;other organisations working in this area unfortunately did not apply to the Challenge.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you want to win the race you have to show up!&nbsp; The judges and&nbsp; the voting public saw merit in this idea ahead of the others on the basis of the idea and its planned path to market.&nbsp; Social acceptability is a big part of this challenge, and&nbsp; we'll follow up later in the year to see how&nbsp;the Kyoto box&nbsp;got on...</p><p></p>
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				<p>Thanks for all these comments...</p><p>The problem with innovation is never a shortage of ideas - the patents offices have thousands and thousands of great ideas registered over the years, that never made it to market.&nbsp; Our competition was about finding innovations that were market ready and therefore promising as investment opportunities.&nbsp; We did know that there are variations on the&nbsp;solar oven idea already out there,&nbsp;but&nbsp;the innovative element of the Kyoto box&nbsp;was the simplicity of&nbsp;approach, using existing manufacturing&nbsp;processes (initially a cardboard factory in Kenya, now developing a&nbsp;more durable plastic version&nbsp;in Indonesia) and simple&nbsp;resources to offer a full kit. As a result these boxes are cheap enough to retail in Africa and have a significant impact - &nbsp;this&nbsp;could be cost neutral if carbon credits are factored in as part of an offset project.&nbsp;</p><p>And don't forget this was a competition -&nbsp;&nbsp;other organisations working in this area unfortunately did not apply to the Challenge.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you want to win the race you have to show up!&nbsp; The judges and&nbsp; the voting public saw merit in this idea ahead of the others on the basis of the idea and its planned path to market.&nbsp; Social acceptability is a big part of this challenge, and&nbsp; we'll follow up later in the year to see how&nbsp;the Kyoto box&nbsp;got on...</p><p></p>
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
		<item>
            <title>Comment #17 by swan</title>
			<link>http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 05:48:17 -0700</pubDate>
			<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.grist.org/article/2009-04-09-kyoto-stove-wins-competition/17</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[
				<p>I think this article and the discussion serves as a perfect example of what's wrong with the competitive attitude when critical issues are at hand. If all the people working on this issue would work TOGETHER - what a radical idea! - we would progress toward the goal a lot quicker. The only thing that is going to save this planet for humans is if we learn to co-operate . . . . learning to live in harmony with the natural world . . . <a href="http://goodwordswan.wildflowerstew.com" rel="nofollow">goodwordswan&nbsp;. . . .<p>&nbsp;</p></a></p>
			]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[
				<p>I think this article and the discussion serves as a perfect example of what's wrong with the competitive attitude when critical issues are at hand. If all the people working on this issue would work TOGETHER - what a radical idea! - we would progress toward the goal a lot quicker. The only thing that is going to save this planet for humans is if we learn to co-operate . . . . learning to live in harmony with the natural world . . . <a href="http://goodwordswan.wildflowerstew.com" rel="nofollow">goodwordswan&nbsp;. . . .<p>&nbsp;</p></a></p>
			]]></content:encoded>
		</item>
    
 </channel>
</rss>