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            <title>Comment #1 by Stentor</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 07:40:27 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>pretty good</strong></p><p>I'm with you on everything except #8 (it may be a fad among a subset) and #20. Although I think my desire for #16 to be true is clouding my judgment.</p>
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				<p><strong>pretty good</strong></p><p>I'm with you on everything except #8 (it may be a fad among a subset) and #20. Although I think my desire for #16 to be true is clouding my judgment.</p>
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            <title>Comment #2 by Biodiversivist</title>
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				<p><strong>If number 8 pans out<p>the fad will propagate down the food chain, which could be a good thing. McMansions today are bigger and built better than the real mansions of old. All because everyone wants a mansion for their very own, the market has found ways to give them one, at affordable prices. Time for a new fad. 

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>If number 8 pans out<p>the fad will propagate down the food chain, which could be a good thing. McMansions today are bigger and built better than the real mansions of old. All because everyone wants a mansion for their very own, the market has found ways to give them one, at affordable prices. Time for a new fad. 

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #3 by willa</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:18:35 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>big houses</strong></p><p>Actually, BioD, house size is somewhat cyclical. &nbsp;The small houses of the early to mid 20th century were neither anomalous nor more normal than today's larger houses. &nbsp;In the late 19th century, particularly, middle-class houses were upwards of 2000 square feet, just as they are now, although admittedly the number of residents tended to be larger, since to be middle-class in 1880 you had to be able to afford "help", often of the live-in variety.</p><p>
It also isn't really true that houses used to be built better or worse than they are now. &nbsp;The houses that are still around from previous periods tend to be better built than the average new house; that's why they're still here. &nbsp;In fact, a great many houses were and are constructed shoddily to satisfy customers who want more than they can afford, and those houses aren't around for long in any era. &nbsp;</p><p>
One thing that's going to limit the longevity of both the McMansions themselves and of the fad making such things desirable will be the technological overconfidence that goes into such a &nbsp;project. &nbsp;Rich people, and wannabe-rich people, may not care when they buy a new house what it will look like in 20 years, but they will sure care 20 years later. &nbsp;Bad designs only continue to be desirable until their obvious and disastrous flaws become apparent and sufficient to overwhelm the perceived advantages, which is why you don't see a lot of bubble skylights anymore. &nbsp;When the big ugly houses built in the last ten years start to decay, people will look at even well-maintained examples and see decay. &nbsp;Only when the tackiness of the decay exceeds the status conveyed by the size and the "village" effect of the interminable collections of pointless extra roof pitches will people really want something else.</p>
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				<p><strong>big houses</strong></p><p>Actually, BioD, house size is somewhat cyclical. &nbsp;The small houses of the early to mid 20th century were neither anomalous nor more normal than today's larger houses. &nbsp;In the late 19th century, particularly, middle-class houses were upwards of 2000 square feet, just as they are now, although admittedly the number of residents tended to be larger, since to be middle-class in 1880 you had to be able to afford "help", often of the live-in variety.</p><p>
It also isn't really true that houses used to be built better or worse than they are now. &nbsp;The houses that are still around from previous periods tend to be better built than the average new house; that's why they're still here. &nbsp;In fact, a great many houses were and are constructed shoddily to satisfy customers who want more than they can afford, and those houses aren't around for long in any era. &nbsp;</p><p>
One thing that's going to limit the longevity of both the McMansions themselves and of the fad making such things desirable will be the technological overconfidence that goes into such a &nbsp;project. &nbsp;Rich people, and wannabe-rich people, may not care when they buy a new house what it will look like in 20 years, but they will sure care 20 years later. &nbsp;Bad designs only continue to be desirable until their obvious and disastrous flaws become apparent and sufficient to overwhelm the perceived advantages, which is why you don't see a lot of bubble skylights anymore. &nbsp;When the big ugly houses built in the last ten years start to decay, people will look at even well-maintained examples and see decay. &nbsp;Only when the tackiness of the decay exceeds the status conveyed by the size and the "village" effect of the interminable collections of pointless extra roof pitches will people really want something else.</p>
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            <title>Comment #4 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 15:12:38 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Nice post Willa<p>Some of the worst designed houses I have ever seen were done by inexperienced architects trying to make their mark. The biggest mistake a home owner can make is to hire an architect who hopes to use their home to advance a career. Any design that deviates from standard building practices risks problems. In the engineering world, that is called a prototype, or mockup. I have never seen a prototype without problems. Of course, once an idea has been tested and proved, it isn't a prototype anymore. That is what experience is about. Nobody wants to be named in a law suit, and lawsuits are all too common in the building industry. Let the rich guys flush out all of the problems.<p>
Experienced contractors have learned this the hard way and that is why they are hesitant to try new ideas like mounting solar panels on perfectly good roofs.<p>
The worst design seen in Seattle is the stucco sided home with a flat roof. The style has come up from California and is the dumbest design possible for a place where it rains for months at a time. <p>
Modern building codes and building permits make sure houses meet minimum standards that are much higher than typical houses of old built without those things. I am intimately familiar with the thousands of century old houses that populate the single family zoned neighborhoods surrounding downtown Seattle. All new houses are better built. This includes the plumbing, wiring, and windows. Plywood is far superior in shear to tounge and groove, sheetrock is far superior to lathe and plaster. All joists rafters and beams meet code defined deflection criteria. Footings are also far bigger. Put on a good roof, siding and the rest is just for show. &nbsp;

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Nice post Willa<p>Some of the worst designed houses I have ever seen were done by inexperienced architects trying to make their mark. The biggest mistake a home owner can make is to hire an architect who hopes to use their home to advance a career. Any design that deviates from standard building practices risks problems. In the engineering world, that is called a prototype, or mockup. I have never seen a prototype without problems. Of course, once an idea has been tested and proved, it isn't a prototype anymore. That is what experience is about. Nobody wants to be named in a law suit, and lawsuits are all too common in the building industry. Let the rich guys flush out all of the problems.<p>
Experienced contractors have learned this the hard way and that is why they are hesitant to try new ideas like mounting solar panels on perfectly good roofs.<p>
The worst design seen in Seattle is the stucco sided home with a flat roof. The style has come up from California and is the dumbest design possible for a place where it rains for months at a time. <p>
Modern building codes and building permits make sure houses meet minimum standards that are much higher than typical houses of old built without those things. I am intimately familiar with the thousands of century old houses that populate the single family zoned neighborhoods surrounding downtown Seattle. All new houses are better built. This includes the plumbing, wiring, and windows. Plywood is far superior in shear to tounge and groove, sheetrock is far superior to lathe and plaster. All joists rafters and beams meet code defined deflection criteria. Footings are also far bigger. Put on a good roof, siding and the rest is just for show. &nbsp;

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #5 by GMB</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:25:54 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Evidence?</strong></p><p>No.20 is plainly idiotic. </p><p>
Since the data doesn't support the likelihood of catastrophic global warming the people who are onto this scientific fraud will multiply even as the costly policies that you crowd have foisted upon us are being applied.</p><p>
Come up with the evidence champ and you won't need to be a smartarse.</p>
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				<p><strong>Evidence?</strong></p><p>No.20 is plainly idiotic. </p><p>
Since the data doesn't support the likelihood of catastrophic global warming the people who are onto this scientific fraud will multiply even as the costly policies that you crowd have foisted upon us are being applied.</p><p>
Come up with the evidence champ and you won't need to be a smartarse.</p>
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            <title>Comment #6 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 07:06:50 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>GMB<p>You will hardly find a more tolerant forum. All views are welcome, but polite, well articulated and defended ones are especially valued. Tolerance of diverse viewpoints is the strength of this site. Humor, sarcastic and otherwise is icing on the cake.<p>
People also get angry and disagree which is healthy, but generally they work real hard to respect other posters. Call it the Grismill culture. Take some advice, resist the urge to use words like idiot, champ, and smartarse when referring to your debate opponents. Most of us learned not to do that in elementary school via the "bounces off me, sticks to you rule." <p>
State your arguments, defend them and cite your sources. Your arguments will stand or fall depending on how well you can do that. In all honesty, comments like the above are worthless. A bunch of words strung together, no argument, no sources, just worthless. You do know what a troll is right? You don't want to be labeled as a troll right? No one at this forum is angered by your short, empty comments, and most certainly they are not being swayed by them, so my advice is to either take it up a notch or find something more useful to do with your time ...seriously. 

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>GMB<p>You will hardly find a more tolerant forum. All views are welcome, but polite, well articulated and defended ones are especially valued. Tolerance of diverse viewpoints is the strength of this site. Humor, sarcastic and otherwise is icing on the cake.<p>
People also get angry and disagree which is healthy, but generally they work real hard to respect other posters. Call it the Grismill culture. Take some advice, resist the urge to use words like idiot, champ, and smartarse when referring to your debate opponents. Most of us learned not to do that in elementary school via the "bounces off me, sticks to you rule." <p>
State your arguments, defend them and cite your sources. Your arguments will stand or fall depending on how well you can do that. In all honesty, comments like the above are worthless. A bunch of words strung together, no argument, no sources, just worthless. You do know what a troll is right? You don't want to be labeled as a troll right? No one at this forum is angered by your short, empty comments, and most certainly they are not being swayed by them, so my advice is to either take it up a notch or find something more useful to do with your time ...seriously. 

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #7 by GMB</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 07:20:24 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>It Was Well-Argued And Well-Defended</strong></p><p>I'm waiting for an authentic counter-attack so I can counter-attack back. Only then will you see just how well defended the truth can be.</p><p>
As for politeness you cqn forget that for starters. Your movement is not merely fraudulent. You actually want to impose costs on the rest of us. And you spend all your time slandering people who disagree.</p><p>
Don't tell me about polite Gristmill culture siince thats a lie. I've just seen abuse of Inhofe and Bob Carter. Two people smart enough to find you clowns out and brave enough to try and combat your malevolence.</p><p>
I don't need to cite any sources. Because you guys won't come up with any evidence. And you all know that we are in an ice age.</p><p>
You guys are just playing silly-buggers. </p>
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				<p><strong>It Was Well-Argued And Well-Defended</strong></p><p>I'm waiting for an authentic counter-attack so I can counter-attack back. Only then will you see just how well defended the truth can be.</p><p>
As for politeness you cqn forget that for starters. Your movement is not merely fraudulent. You actually want to impose costs on the rest of us. And you spend all your time slandering people who disagree.</p><p>
Don't tell me about polite Gristmill culture siince thats a lie. I've just seen abuse of Inhofe and Bob Carter. Two people smart enough to find you clowns out and brave enough to try and combat your malevolence.</p><p>
I don't need to cite any sources. Because you guys won't come up with any evidence. And you all know that we are in an ice age.</p><p>
You guys are just playing silly-buggers. </p>
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            <title>Comment #8 by GMB</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 07:27:03 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Hypocrite</strong></p><p>A careful reading of what you said reveals a sort of rolling thunder of insults.</p><p>
"All views are welcome, but polite, well articulated and defended ones are especially valued. Tolerance of diverse viewpoints is the strength of this site. Humor, sarcastic and otherwise is icing on the cake."</p><p>
Here you are really making a lying claim that I'm not explaiining myself clearly. And you are reserving the right for sarcasm to one side only.</p><p>
Now look you guys are doing the wrong thing and perpetuating a fraud that will be immensely costly. That has already been immensely costly.</p><p>
So its time you put up a case in open debate and not instead tried to set things up in advance to close it down.</p><p>
Now have you got some evidence fella?</p><p>
Have you got some evidence for the likelihood of catastrophic warming? As opposed to catastrophic cooling?</p><p>
Well lets hear it then?</p>
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				<p><strong>Hypocrite</strong></p><p>A careful reading of what you said reveals a sort of rolling thunder of insults.</p><p>
"All views are welcome, but polite, well articulated and defended ones are especially valued. Tolerance of diverse viewpoints is the strength of this site. Humor, sarcastic and otherwise is icing on the cake."</p><p>
Here you are really making a lying claim that I'm not explaiining myself clearly. And you are reserving the right for sarcasm to one side only.</p><p>
Now look you guys are doing the wrong thing and perpetuating a fraud that will be immensely costly. That has already been immensely costly.</p><p>
So its time you put up a case in open debate and not instead tried to set things up in advance to close it down.</p><p>
Now have you got some evidence fella?</p><p>
Have you got some evidence for the likelihood of catastrophic warming? As opposed to catastrophic cooling?</p><p>
Well lets hear it then?</p>
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            <title>Comment #9 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 11:38:15 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>GMB<p>I like English accents, they always sound so polite, even in anger. A lot of great stuff has come off that island, Darwin, Monty Python.<p>
I try to avoid the global warming discussions because it is being handled really well by others. Go <a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics" rel="nofollow">here for example. Grab yourself a pint some night, sit back and read it. It is probably more than you want to &nbsp;hear, and it isn't possible that everything is correct, but the arguments are many and most are well defended. Maybe your challenge to a debate will be taken up, but not by me.<p>
I put up one post on the topic <a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/10/30/132332/18" rel="nofollow">here.<p>
Keep in mind that very few people here fit the environmentalist stereotype you have in your head, whatever it is, in its totality or at all, just as I am sure you don't fit the conservative redneck stereotype.<p>
Wouldn't it have been fun to be a fly on the wall to watch the attacks on Darwin when he first published Origins? Believe it or not, the vast majority of Americans don't buy it to this &nbsp;day. If they can't be convinced &nbsp;of that, what chance is there of convincing everyone that global warming is a reality?

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></a></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>GMB<p>I like English accents, they always sound so polite, even in anger. A lot of great stuff has come off that island, Darwin, Monty Python.<p>
I try to avoid the global warming discussions because it is being handled really well by others. Go <a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics" rel="nofollow">here for example. Grab yourself a pint some night, sit back and read it. It is probably more than you want to &nbsp;hear, and it isn't possible that everything is correct, but the arguments are many and most are well defended. Maybe your challenge to a debate will be taken up, but not by me.<p>
I put up one post on the topic <a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/10/30/132332/18" rel="nofollow">here.<p>
Keep in mind that very few people here fit the environmentalist stereotype you have in your head, whatever it is, in its totality or at all, just as I am sure you don't fit the conservative redneck stereotype.<p>
Wouldn't it have been fun to be a fly on the wall to watch the attacks on Darwin when he first published Origins? Believe it or not, the vast majority of Americans don't buy it to this &nbsp;day. If they can't be convinced &nbsp;of that, what chance is there of convincing everyone that global warming is a reality?

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></p></a></p></a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #10 by bookerly</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 13:01:44 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Trolls</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Dear BioD,</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;GMB is clearly a troll. &nbsp;One species that is certainly not endangered. &nbsp;If he wanted to discuss Global Warming or see any of the evidence, Grist has done more to discuss the issue at a very basic elementary level than ANY place I've seen.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;You linked to the series, it continues. &nbsp;It doesn't take much intelligence to find it if one really wants to. &nbsp;Anyway, your politeness to trolls is a credit to you. (smile).</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;As to the list, I would not bet on either 15 or 16, but they certainly would be high on my wish list.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Personally, I am lousy at predicting the future, so will leave that to those who are wiser and have better foresight!</p><p>
patrick</br></p>
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				<p><strong>Trolls</strong></p><p><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Dear BioD,</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;GMB is clearly a troll. &nbsp;One species that is certainly not endangered. &nbsp;If he wanted to discuss Global Warming or see any of the evidence, Grist has done more to discuss the issue at a very basic elementary level than ANY place I've seen.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;You linked to the series, it continues. &nbsp;It doesn't take much intelligence to find it if one really wants to. &nbsp;Anyway, your politeness to trolls is a credit to you. (smile).</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;As to the list, I would not bet on either 15 or 16, but they certainly would be high on my wish list.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Personally, I am lousy at predicting the future, so will leave that to those who are wiser and have better foresight!</p><p>
patrick</br></p>
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            <title>Comment #11 by Biodiversivist</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 13:44:51 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>That would not be me<p>I once predicted that personal computers were a temporary fad. In engineering we used them hard as word processors to write code and also for spreadsheets, but what use did your average homeowner have for those things? All your average Joe needed was a word processor and platform for video games. Then the Internet came along. It's those unknown unknowns that nail you every time.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>That would not be me<p>I once predicted that personal computers were a temporary fad. In engineering we used them hard as word processors to write code and also for spreadsheets, but what use did your average homeowner have for those things? All your average Joe needed was a word processor and platform for video games. Then the Internet came along. It's those unknown unknowns that nail you every time.

<p>In the end, it all comes down to biodiversity. <a href="http://www.poisondarts.net" rel="nofollow">Poison Darts--Protecting the biodiversity of our world</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #12 by froggy</title>
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				<p><strong>my 2cents</strong></p><p>1 Carbon trading will become a buzzword.</p><p>
2 Alt energy stocks become even hotter.</p><p>
3 Global warming turns into a major political issue and Al will have to enter the race. maybe as not THE guy but he will throw his ever growing political power to sway the Dem. candidate. They will need Al to win. </p><p>
4 Green becomes the new black.

<p>froggy</p></p>
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				<p><strong>my 2cents</strong></p><p>1 Carbon trading will become a buzzword.</p><p>
2 Alt energy stocks become even hotter.</p><p>
3 Global warming turns into a major political issue and Al will have to enter the race. maybe as not THE guy but he will throw his ever growing political power to sway the Dem. candidate. They will need Al to win. </p><p>
4 Green becomes the new black.

<p>froggy</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #13 by GMB</title>
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				<p><strong>Put thy Troll-brand away good sir....</strong></p><p>It burns the flesh. And its only pressed upon those heretical non-persons who will not take non-evidence for an answer when talking to alarmists.</p><p>
Now since I've found you out.....</p><p>
Have you sir... got any evidence for the likelihood of catastrophic global warming?</p><p>
NO????</p><p>
I.... DIDN'T..... THINKSO!!!!</p>
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				<p><strong>Put thy Troll-brand away good sir....</strong></p><p>It burns the flesh. And its only pressed upon those heretical non-persons who will not take non-evidence for an answer when talking to alarmists.</p><p>
Now since I've found you out.....</p><p>
Have you sir... got any evidence for the likelihood of catastrophic global warming?</p><p>
NO????</p><p>
I.... DIDN'T..... THINKSO!!!!</p>
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            <title>Comment #14 by GMB</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 01:07:43 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>I Checked You Links Biodiversivist!</strong></p><p>But it just links alarmist-denialists being smug smartasses</p><p>
No evidence to be found there.</p><p>
No evidence of anything but cultic behaviour.</p>
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				<p><strong>I Checked You Links Biodiversivist!</strong></p><p>But it just links alarmist-denialists being smug smartasses</p><p>
No evidence to be found there.</p><p>
No evidence of anything but cultic behaviour.</p>
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            <title>Comment #15 by amazingdrx</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 02:08:59 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Prediction</strong></p><p>Media will notice that do-it-your-selfers have already solved the climate/energy problem with conservation, renewables, and plugin serial hybrid car conversions. &nbsp;</p><p>
You tube combined with blogs will provide the initial publicity to make that happen.</p><p>
Government will ignore it all. &nbsp;Corporations will put up even bigger mass media smokescreens featuring &nbsp;"new, safer, waste recycling" nuclear reactors, "clean' coal, fuel farming, and the new, improved hydrogen powered economy!!

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Prediction</strong></p><p>Media will notice that do-it-your-selfers have already solved the climate/energy problem with conservation, renewables, and plugin serial hybrid car conversions. &nbsp;</p><p>
You tube combined with blogs will provide the initial publicity to make that happen.</p><p>
Government will ignore it all. &nbsp;Corporations will put up even bigger mass media smokescreens featuring &nbsp;"new, safer, waste recycling" nuclear reactors, "clean' coal, fuel farming, and the new, improved hydrogen powered economy!!

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #16 by amazingdrx</title>
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				<p><strong>Argument?</strong></p><p>Is this the alleged "argument' you meant?</p><p>
"Since the data doesn't support the likelihood of catastrophic global warming the people who are onto this scientific fraud will multiply even as the costly policies that you crowd have foisted upon us are being applied."</p><p>
I don't see any argument there at all. &nbsp;Or evidence.</p><p>
On the other hand we have a correlation of interaction between GHG levels and temperature going back 100s of thousands of years verified by all the peer reviewed research.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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				<p><strong>Argument?</strong></p><p>Is this the alleged "argument' you meant?</p><p>
"Since the data doesn't support the likelihood of catastrophic global warming the people who are onto this scientific fraud will multiply even as the costly policies that you crowd have foisted upon us are being applied."</p><p>
I don't see any argument there at all. &nbsp;Or evidence.</p><p>
On the other hand we have a correlation of interaction between GHG levels and temperature going back 100s of thousands of years verified by all the peer reviewed research.

<p>http://amazngdrx.blogharbor.com/blog</p></p>
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            <title>Comment #17 by swozniak</title>
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				<p><strong>Rainforests and carbon offsets<p>#23 (because it's a cool number!).<p>
More people will contribute to carbon offsets, but overlook news that only re-planting &nbsp;tropical rainforests (not Northern Hemisphere forests) will help capture excess CO2.<p>
So adopt an acre from <a href="http://www.http://www.nature.org/joinanddonate/adoptanacre/" rel="nofollow">Nature Conservancy. 

<p>Shawn
<a href="http://thegoodthebadandthegreen.com" rel="nofollow">http://thegoodthebadandthegreen.com</a></p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Rainforests and carbon offsets<p>#23 (because it's a cool number!).<p>
More people will contribute to carbon offsets, but overlook news that only re-planting &nbsp;tropical rainforests (not Northern Hemisphere forests) will help capture excess CO2.<p>
So adopt an acre from <a href="http://www.http://www.nature.org/joinanddonate/adoptanacre/" rel="nofollow">Nature Conservancy. 

<p>Shawn
<a href="http://thegoodthebadandthegreen.com" rel="nofollow">http://thegoodthebadandthegreen.com</a></p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #18 by willa</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:39:05 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>construction, again<p>Skipping the trolling and back to your reply to my previous post, BioD, I should add that I am not saying new houses are better built. &nbsp;In fact, any 100-year-old house that's still around is likely better built than the vast majority of what's being built today; in theory, the houses being built today that are still going to be around in 100 years are going to be the best houses we're building now, just like only the best 100-year-old houses are around now. &nbsp;If that made any sense. &nbsp;Boy, I need editing tonight--or sleep, one of the two.<p>
I hate sheetrock with an unholy passion. &nbsp;Lath and plaster kicks ass. &nbsp;Likewise plywood vs t&amp;g. &nbsp;So you won't get me to agree with you on that &nbsp;Houses need to move and breathe and be repairable, rather than having to have entire sections replaced at once.<p>
But it should be illegal to build Mediterranean-style houses in the Apcific Northwest. &nbsp;It should be illegal to build frame houses in the desert. &nbsp;Etc, etc. &nbsp;'Course, it should also be illegal to put vinyl siding on a perfectly intact clapboard house that just needs paint, given how vinyl does nothing to insulate, rots the wood, and can actually take away the wood siding's natural r-value by keeping it damp. &nbsp;No, I'm not one for modern materials.<p>
You might enjoy reading some preservation literature, and some related architecture stuff. &nbsp;The National Park Service has some great <a href="http://www.cr.nps.gov/hps/TPS/briefs/presbhom.htm" rel="nofollow">Preservation Briefs, some of which go into energy issues in old buildings. &nbsp;I also highly recommend Stewart Brand's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/How-Buildings-Learn-Happens-Theyre/dp/0140139966/sr=8-1/qid=1167806210/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-4482640-8060133?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books" rel="nofollow"> How Buildings Learn, which is mostly a sort of iconoclastic look at how architects can be dumb, and how buildings can succeed anyway. &nbsp;He was a Whole-Earth-Catalog person, so that tells you a bit about him--and he is a little nutty, but in a good way. &nbsp;That book had some of my preservation classmates pretty steamed, but I enjoyed it!</a></a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>construction, again<p>Skipping the trolling and back to your reply to my previous post, BioD, I should add that I am not saying new houses are better built. &nbsp;In fact, any 100-year-old house that's still around is likely better built than the vast majority of what's being built today; in theory, the houses being built today that are still going to be around in 100 years are going to be the best houses we're building now, just like only the best 100-year-old houses are around now. &nbsp;If that made any sense. &nbsp;Boy, I need editing tonight--or sleep, one of the two.<p>
I hate sheetrock with an unholy passion. &nbsp;Lath and plaster kicks ass. &nbsp;Likewise plywood vs t&amp;g. &nbsp;So you won't get me to agree with you on that &nbsp;Houses need to move and breathe and be repairable, rather than having to have entire sections replaced at once.<p>
But it should be illegal to build Mediterranean-style houses in the Apcific Northwest. &nbsp;It should be illegal to build frame houses in the desert. &nbsp;Etc, etc. &nbsp;'Course, it should also be illegal to put vinyl siding on a perfectly intact clapboard house that just needs paint, given how vinyl does nothing to insulate, rots the wood, and can actually take away the wood siding's natural r-value by keeping it damp. &nbsp;No, I'm not one for modern materials.<p>
You might enjoy reading some preservation literature, and some related architecture stuff. &nbsp;The National Park Service has some great <a href="http://www.cr.nps.gov/hps/TPS/briefs/presbhom.htm" rel="nofollow">Preservation Briefs, some of which go into energy issues in old buildings. &nbsp;I also highly recommend Stewart Brand's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/How-Buildings-Learn-Happens-Theyre/dp/0140139966/sr=8-1/qid=1167806210/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-4482640-8060133?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books" rel="nofollow"> How Buildings Learn, which is mostly a sort of iconoclastic look at how architects can be dumb, and how buildings can succeed anyway. &nbsp;He was a Whole-Earth-Catalog person, so that tells you a bit about him--and he is a little nutty, but in a good way. &nbsp;That book had some of my preservation classmates pretty steamed, but I enjoyed it!</a></a></p></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #19 by silvergryph</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:11:18 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Optimist<p>Being an optimist, here's a prediction:<p>
A groundswell of private citizens making (and demanding) real environmental changes in their lives will do more to beat prediction #2 than all the international meetings of countries with and without the intention of doing anything about climate change.<p>
Another, less optimistic prediction: &nbsp;Arctic sea life will watch in horror as the <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/12/29/canada.arctic.ap/index.html" rel="nofollow">ice island the size of Manhattan which broke off of Ellesmere Island shears off oil rigs in the Beaufort Sea in the summer. &nbsp;<p>
If that isn't a sign...</p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Optimist<p>Being an optimist, here's a prediction:<p>
A groundswell of private citizens making (and demanding) real environmental changes in their lives will do more to beat prediction #2 than all the international meetings of countries with and without the intention of doing anything about climate change.<p>
Another, less optimistic prediction: &nbsp;Arctic sea life will watch in horror as the <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/12/29/canada.arctic.ap/index.html" rel="nofollow">ice island the size of Manhattan which broke off of Ellesmere Island shears off oil rigs in the Beaufort Sea in the summer. &nbsp;<p>
If that isn't a sign...</p></a></p></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #20 by JohnF</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 06:45:48 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Root causes<p>I'm going to predict increasing discussion of the root causes of our ecological plight. In my view they are: population growth and corporate economic growth in interaction with per capita consumption rates. This is one prediction I'm <a href="http://" rel="nofollow">trying to make happen. :)</a></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Root causes<p>I'm going to predict increasing discussion of the root causes of our ecological plight. In my view they are: population growth and corporate economic growth in interaction with per capita consumption rates. This is one prediction I'm <a href="http://" rel="nofollow">trying to make happen. :)</a></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #21 by sunflower</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 07:29:26 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Reading tea leaves.</strong></p><p>Adm. William Fallon (the point guy on Iran) to replace Gen. John Abizaid as the head of U.S. Central Command is an indication of an attack on Iran and off-shore oil facilities. &nbsp;So I predict the SOTU from Bush will be about making oil from coal with CO2 sequestration. &nbsp;As usual, I hope I am wrong.<br>
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				<p><strong>Reading tea leaves.</strong></p><p>Adm. William Fallon (the point guy on Iran) to replace Gen. John Abizaid as the head of U.S. Central Command is an indication of an attack on Iran and off-shore oil facilities. &nbsp;So I predict the SOTU from Bush will be about making oil from coal with CO2 sequestration. &nbsp;As usual, I hope I am wrong.<br>
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            <title>Comment #22 by JohnF</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 14:48:57 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Root causes (redux)<p>The URL in my post just a little above did not come out right. Let's try again.<p>
I predict more discussion of the root causes of our ecological plight. And I'm <a href="http://growthmadness.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">trying to make that happen (those root causes = population growth and corporate economic growth in interaction with per capita consumption rates)</a></p></p></strong></p>
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				<p><strong>Root causes (redux)<p>The URL in my post just a little above did not come out right. Let's try again.<p>
I predict more discussion of the root causes of our ecological plight. And I'm <a href="http://growthmadness.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">trying to make that happen (those root causes = population growth and corporate economic growth in interaction with per capita consumption rates)</a></p></p></strong></p>
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            <title>Comment #23 by Storm Dragon</title>
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				<p><strong>A little something of my own</strong></p><p>Here are three predictions about that proposed ecological disaster, the U.S.-Mexico border fence.</p><p>


Most likely scenario-the fence remains unfunded, &nbsp;preventing its construction for the present, but keeping it as a potential menace for the future.</p><p>
Optomistic scenario-environmental groups and activists all over the country awaken to the danger and raise a tremendous outcry. Under pressure from the people, Congress consigns this appalling project to the rubbish bin, and sets to work crafting an immigration policy that might actually do some good &nbsp; in the world.</p><p>
Pessemistic scenario-construction on the fence gets underway, effectively damaging or destroying &nbsp;wilderness areas in the southwest, ending all hope of the return of the jaguar, and doing incalculable harm to the ocelot, the desert bighorn, and the Sonoran pronghorn. &nbsp;Meanwhile, illegal immigration into the U.S. continues, as desperate people find new ways to enter the country.</p><p>


It's up to us. &nbsp;Which is it going to be? </p>
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				<p><strong>A little something of my own</strong></p><p>Here are three predictions about that proposed ecological disaster, the U.S.-Mexico border fence.</p><p>


Most likely scenario-the fence remains unfunded, &nbsp;preventing its construction for the present, but keeping it as a potential menace for the future.</p><p>
Optomistic scenario-environmental groups and activists all over the country awaken to the danger and raise a tremendous outcry. Under pressure from the people, Congress consigns this appalling project to the rubbish bin, and sets to work crafting an immigration policy that might actually do some good &nbsp; in the world.</p><p>
Pessemistic scenario-construction on the fence gets underway, effectively damaging or destroying &nbsp;wilderness areas in the southwest, ending all hope of the return of the jaguar, and doing incalculable harm to the ocelot, the desert bighorn, and the Sonoran pronghorn. &nbsp;Meanwhile, illegal immigration into the U.S. continues, as desperate people find new ways to enter the country.</p><p>


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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:40:08 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>Immigration Fence</strong></p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp;Dear Storm Dragon,</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Your option number one is interesting, but I suspect that it is unlikely, since Congress may feel a need to throw some red meat (in the form a fence) to the attack dogs of the right.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I suspect that we will see some sort of so-called "immigration reform" from the current Congress. &nbsp;It will probably follow the path of a lot of labor contracts, in that it will protect the current immigrants (through some sort of token requirement that they do something before being put on the path of naturalization), while sacrificing future immigrants (by creating and codifying a second class status for them and ensuring that they have no rights while here and are more easily shipped back.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(This will do nothing about future undocumented workers, who will be left to fend for themselves for least the near term. &nbsp;Congress will pretend that only people who are already here and those willing to come in semi-servitude actually exist.)</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;So, a combination of two and three is most likely (not the good parts).</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Frankly, no one in American (pretty much) cares about the American poor, so it is unreasonable to expect them to care about poor people who can't vote.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;patrick</p>
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				<p><strong>Immigration Fence</strong></p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp;Dear Storm Dragon,</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Your option number one is interesting, but I suspect that it is unlikely, since Congress may feel a need to throw some red meat (in the form a fence) to the attack dogs of the right.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I suspect that we will see some sort of so-called "immigration reform" from the current Congress. &nbsp;It will probably follow the path of a lot of labor contracts, in that it will protect the current immigrants (through some sort of token requirement that they do something before being put on the path of naturalization), while sacrificing future immigrants (by creating and codifying a second class status for them and ensuring that they have no rights while here and are more easily shipped back.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(This will do nothing about future undocumented workers, who will be left to fend for themselves for least the near term. &nbsp;Congress will pretend that only people who are already here and those willing to come in semi-servitude actually exist.)</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;So, a combination of two and three is most likely (not the good parts).</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Frankly, no one in American (pretty much) cares about the American poor, so it is unreasonable to expect them to care about poor people who can't vote.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;patrick</p>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:08:14 -0800</pubDate>
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				<p><strong>My Predictions<p><br>
Here's my 2007 Predictions<p>
(1) People will read the <a href="http://www.andrill.org" rel="nofollow">ANDRILL studies that clearly show the ice shelf has grown and retreated at least 50 times in the past and that global climate change is a regular, natural thing.<p>
(2) People in Boston and New York City will be featured in a documentary saying things like "I hate snow" and "warm weather in December...cool!"<p>
(3) Fusion will have a breakthrough as will fuel cells and solar and oil prices will plummet as people realize that oil is no longer necessary.<p>
(4) The Democrats will whine about "reform" and then promptly try to create as many subsidies for "biofuels" (read: agribusiness) as ever. &nbsp; They will try to raise taxes to fund their backers with frontman Al Gore leading the way.<p>
(5) People will start questioning the energy usage of billionaires (who often appear in Grist telling us one-bedroom apartment dwellers to "save energy"). &nbsp; Their eyes will open to who really steals the resources of the earth, and who is using them minimally.<p>
(6) Bush will get all the recognition he deserves for funding real alternative energy projects -- hydrogen -- and making the breakthroughs described in (3) possible. <p>
(7) Al Gore should win an Oscar...for Best Actor in a Comedy. &nbsp; But George Bush should win a Nobel Prize for taking the hard path and leading us to true energy breakthroughs...that let us, as Mitsui Kaku describes, make ourselves into a Level 1 Society (having the power of a sun at our disposal).<p>
(8) Green Acres, Petticoat Junction and Beverly Hillbillies, will not be so damned relevent! (Sorry, that was Gil Scott Heron's prediction). &nbsp;Next.

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				<p><strong>My Predictions<p><br>
Here's my 2007 Predictions<p>
(1) People will read the <a href="http://www.andrill.org" rel="nofollow">ANDRILL studies that clearly show the ice shelf has grown and retreated at least 50 times in the past and that global climate change is a regular, natural thing.<p>
(2) People in Boston and New York City will be featured in a documentary saying things like "I hate snow" and "warm weather in December...cool!"<p>
(3) Fusion will have a breakthrough as will fuel cells and solar and oil prices will plummet as people realize that oil is no longer necessary.<p>
(4) The Democrats will whine about "reform" and then promptly try to create as many subsidies for "biofuels" (read: agribusiness) as ever. &nbsp; They will try to raise taxes to fund their backers with frontman Al Gore leading the way.<p>
(5) People will start questioning the energy usage of billionaires (who often appear in Grist telling us one-bedroom apartment dwellers to "save energy"). &nbsp; Their eyes will open to who really steals the resources of the earth, and who is using them minimally.<p>
(6) Bush will get all the recognition he deserves for funding real alternative energy projects -- hydrogen -- and making the breakthroughs described in (3) possible. <p>
(7) Al Gore should win an Oscar...for Best Actor in a Comedy. &nbsp; But George Bush should win a Nobel Prize for taking the hard path and leading us to true energy breakthroughs...that let us, as Mitsui Kaku describes, make ourselves into a Level 1 Society (having the power of a sun at our disposal).<p>
(8) Green Acres, Petticoat Junction and Beverly Hillbillies, will not be so damned relevent! (Sorry, that was Gil Scott Heron's prediction). &nbsp;Next.

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