Comments ViridianSeattle has made

Excellent - our local example already chimed in!

Rob - that's an excellent question. I think that:

a) it is somewhat effective strategy to have shills post pro-pollution propaganda on green sites

b) and the folks "just trying to make next quarters numbers" (regardless of how many bodies they have to climb over in the process ;-) don't even have to pay them (directly)

Jabby above is a fine example of the breed. You can get that sort of crank for free by simply spending money on targeted advertising. All you have to do is create an identity for them to assume (I haven't looked too closely, but I think our little friend here has embraced "rugged individualist standing against the elitist environmentalists", though there are always new counterfactual ID's being rolled out, so it's hard to tell. He, of course, has no idea. If he had the gift of introspection he wouldn't be wasting his time here... :-)

I'm not sure what the best strategy for dealing with these sort of social idiot savants is, though. Jabby, for instance, isn't actively abusive, and I'd guess that for regulars like me he's actually kind of comforting (you figure if your opponents are that clueless you have a good chance of winning - in much the same way lots of liberals secretly like having Mallard Filmore around as long as we don't have to actually read it ).

I suppose there is a possibility that he's passing disinformation to newbies, though. Perhaps some sort of tag could be attached to posters that lie all the time? Probably more trouble than it's worth, really.

I guess I vote that we keep him as a sort of mascot... :-)On Global temps may drop this year but, alas, world still warming posted 1 year, 8 months ago 132 Responses

Lutz has a record - make it known

You can't work with Lutz. You can only put pressure on him. If he thinks he might lose his job, then (and only maybe then) will he change policy.

Being CEO of a big American car company means you're making policy decisions that mean thousands of Americans will needlessly die this year so you can increase short term profits. (They'll die from crash incompatibility (too many light trucks instead of sedans/station wagons and minivans), lung and heart disease because of dirty diesels in trucks (diesel particulate loopholes), etc, etc, whatever.)

Lutz doesn't even care that he's probably doomed much of the American car industry by his short-sighted approach to product development and brand management.

His me-first you-die approach has worked really well for him. (He is after all, rich and CEO of a major corp - so what's not to like?)

Dead people? Somebody else's problem.

When you're dealing with someone like that "why can't we all just get along" isn't exactly going to get any traction.

In the medium and long term, Lutz is and has been bad news for the American auto industry.

That fact should be at the core of every outward-facing Green commentary on Lutz. The fact that he's bad for American health and the  ecosystem and the climate and pedestrians and cyclists and your grandmother and whatever else ought to be mentioned after that main fact is rammed home.

(Just read all the fan-boy posts on the GM blog and our own jb above. These folks don't care about anyone else. Until we can make the case about how screwed they've been by this guy, they're not going to care about Lutz.)On GM's Lutz can think whatever he wants, but the record shows his actions hurt the climate fight posted 1 year, 9 months ago 10 Responses