Comments BChameides has made

  • Evidence that the technology is here

    David, have you seen Stephen Pacala and Robert Socolow's paper from Science? In it they demonstrate that the problem can be addressed with at least 15 existing technologies and policy options (called "wedges"). No single wedge can get us where we need to be, but a combination of about seven can. I discuss their paper more in depth in a recent post I did responding to Samuelson's Op-Ed.

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    On It's seductive -- and wrong posted 2 years, 9 months ago 54 Responses
  • Environmental Defense Integrity

    Hi greenfire. I want to respond to your post asking about conflicts of interest at Environmental Defense.

    Sorry, there's neither smoke nor fire here. Environmental Defense is strictly nonpartisan. We take pride in the fact that we partner with unlikely allies to reach important environmental goals such as the elimination of Styrofoam packaging in fast food restaurants (McDonalds), and the development of a new generation of clean and more efficient delivery trucks (FedEx).

    We are also proud of the role we played in launching the Environmental Resources Trust (ERT), a non-profit organization dedicated to developing market mechanisms to address environmental problems. Note that once ERT reached maturity, Environmental Defense severed all official ties with it. No member of our Board or staff currently works for or serves on the Board of ERT. (See the list of current ERT board members.)

    Environmental Defense adheres to strict ethical guidelines. We meet all 20 standards for charity accountability set by the Better Business Bureau's Wise Giving Alliance (see report). The fifth standard specifically bars any transaction in which a board or staff member has a conflicting material interest.

    Environmental Defense also does not accept money or donations from any business or corporation that we partner with, that stands to gain materially from the work we do, or that's directly responsible for pollution. For details, see Environmental Defense's Corporate Guidelines.

    Our only agenda is the environment. Environmental Defense's advocacy of cap-and-trade is based on our long-standing commitment to fighting global warming, and our belief that the best way to do so is with appropriate markets incentives.

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    On A guest essay from Environmental Defense posted 2 years, 9 months ago 41 Responses
  • vapor tax

    jabailo brings up the idea of a "vapor tax" to address global warming, noting that water vapor is the most important greenhouse gas. Probably this was just in jest - the readers of Grist tend to be sophisticated, and understand that water vapor is an amplifying effect of global warming. For those of you who don't, here's a brief summary of the issue (scroll down to myth #3).

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    On A guest essay from Environmental Defense posted 2 years, 9 months ago 41 Responses
  • response to Jason's points

    Jason brings up some interesting points. Let me see if I can address them.


    1. Leakage refers to the tendency for emissions to "leak" from a capped system to an uncapped system. This happens when manufacturers move production to an uncapped country so they can meet demand without incurring the increased costs of the cap. It is important to note that Nordhaus only brings this up as a problem for Kyoto, where developed economies are capped and developing are not. Within the US, cap leakage would not, by definition, be a problem.
    2. In the absence of an international regime, there would be a tendency for leakage outside the US. But the same would occur for a carbon tax! If some countries had a carbon tax and others did not, there would be a tendency for production and emissions to move to the countries without the tax. That's why we need an international regime. And the best way to make that happen is for the US to have its own meaningful climate policy. Hopefully, we can all, at least, agree on that.

    3. Difficulties re monitoring, enforcement: Yes there are complications associated with implementing cap-and-trade, but they are manageable. I'm not trying to say cap and trade won't be complicated, but a tax is no walk in the park either.
    4. Grandfathering: There are a variety of ways to implement a cap-and-trade, and not all are based on allocating allowances based on historical emissions. Systems can even be developed that reward early actors, and penalize companies that try to game the system by jacking up their emissions at the last minute.
    5. Costs: Both a tax and a cap-and-trade can raise costs. It's a question of which is the most cost-effective path - history suggests it is cap-and-trade. And finally don't forget we are talking about avoiding dangerous climate change. ONLY a cap can guarantee that we will meet emissions targets.


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    On A guest essay from Environmental Defense posted 2 years, 9 months ago 41 Responses
  • Some responses

    Wow, looks like my post caused quite a stir. Discussion is the name of the game, so thanks for the warm welcome to Grist. A lot to respond to, buy here are few key points --

    First, how a cap-and-trade differs from a tax in terms of consequences... Nordhaus is a world-class economist, but even he never addresses the fact that a carbon tax cannot meet the essential need of good climate legislation: a guarantee that specific emission targets will be met.

    No one knows what level of taxation will cause the necessary behavioral changes to get the carbon emissions cuts we need. I'm not a political expert or an economist, but it's a safe bet that the tax will have to be very high - a non-starter in Congress. Given that climate change is urgent, we should go for the option that (1) guarantees the results we need, and (2) can pass Congress.  

    Secondly, it's not a question of who you trust, but which mechanism can work most effectively. The market - not individual CEOs, but thousands of venture capitalists, entrepreneurs, and traders looking for profit - does a better job at finding and funding solutions. They also have access to a lot more money. And as for government subsidies - look at the historical facts: Congress has been picking favored energy technologies for subsidies for decades, and it hasn't solved the problem.

    Cap-and-trade is not just theory. We used it to address acid rain and we met targets ahead of schedule and at 30% of costs. At the time there were lots of people, businesses and environmentalists, who said it would never work, it would be an economic disaster. As it turned out, they were wrong.

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    On A guest essay from Environmental Defense posted 2 years, 9 months ago 41 Responses