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Hunting....
So if I read correctly what someone wrote....If I go hunt then I am more connected to the killing and therefore I am justified, like Eskimos that each fish? And PETA is fine with that?
Instead of hunting, I choose to work in a different industry and someone else does the "hunting" now known as factory farming.
The same with buying clothes, shoes, buying soaps, etc... We have evolved as a society where some will do the killing while others choose to pay for the killing.
What is lost in the production is the fact that a life was lost so someone could eat....so the respect or spiritual factor to it all I believe has been lost somewhere....and the connection to the killing is gone.
So if we go back in time and kill for food then we are fully justified and PETA will not harp about eating meat anymore, right? Quite frankly, if factory farming wasn't as bad as it is....then PETA wouldn't have a leg to stand on....all the videos are about pain and suffering. But if more farms would treat livestock with respect and find ways to kill with less painful methods....then we would not be "eating horror."
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RobertOn Animal-rights group makes the stupid claim that enviros must be vegetarians posted 2 years, 2 months ago 208 ResponsesMeal time...
To caniscandida.... yes leaving that part out didn't complete my whole story.... :-)
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RobertOn Animal-rights group makes the stupid claim that enviros must be vegetarians posted 2 years, 2 months ago 208 ResponsesMy Reasoning
Concerning my reasoning on stopping my vegetarian ways - I enjoy sharing a roasted chicken with my dogs. I know you may not understand...but it is my reason....I had one of my dogs die of cancer in 2005....one of the things I had stopped doing was eating meat at the time....do I wish I could go back and purchase him a roasted chicken and have fun sharing with him? Yes I do...before I stopped eating meat we used to do that several times a week. Dinners are about bonding. So I eat meat now and share with my other dogs as well. Could I have just bought the roasted chicken and gave to them and not eaten? Of course - but the chicken is already dead and my dogs enjoy the sharing as much as I do.
I do believe I make moral choices everyday....I can attempt to be as humane as possible by purchasing grain fed and cage free chickens and eggs. I can also petition my representatives to pass humane killing laws for animal farms and producers. I can support organizations that help animals in need. These are things we can do that can minimize animal suffering. Some of us, however, will minimize the suffering more than others.On Animal-rights group makes the stupid claim that enviros must be vegetarians posted 2 years, 2 months ago 208 Responses
Attacking PETA?
Someone stated many were attacking PETA - I may be one of those in reference....but I call it like I see it....if they are being hypocrites then I will call them on it. I would hope someone would do the same for me in order for me to change my behavior as warranted.
On Animal-rights group makes the stupid claim that enviros must be vegetarians posted 2 years, 2 months ago 208 ResponsesPoint about the Van of Death....
PETA has killed over 14,000 animals they could have helped found homes for with the approx $30 million they rake in each year. Instead, they opt for the cheap way out for these animals. 90% of animals brought to PETA are killed by them. I don't believe people that call PETA believe that is the fate of their pet they can longer take care of, or a stray they believe PETA could help find a good home.
Michael Vick killed far less - and he lost an NFL contract.
PETA kills 14,000 and no one seems to take notice? PETA shouldn't shout "animal rights" and "we have no right to kill them" when they are doctors of death themselves. I guess if they do it then it is fine.
Better programs, better processes, better education, etc... can bring about real change - not million dollar ads with Pam and friends. Use the money wisely and to help, not kill is what I'm trying to get at.
I used to support PETA, but do not any more for 4 reasons:
- Funds being used unwisely - marketing campaigns over helping homeless animals
- Wanting to ban breeds
- Wanting us to no longer have pets
- Killing dogs and cats and being hypocrites about it.
- Funds being used unwisely - marketing campaigns over helping homeless animals
Why I stopped being a Vegetarian
I stopped not because I don't like the horrors of factory farming. I do believe that can be improved. But because my dogs and cats eat meat. It made no sense to me to buy expensive brands of dog and cat food (made from high quality ingredients - like Kumpi or Orijen) and then I pull up to the table and eat a salad (or other veggie foods).
From the very beginning, humans have eaten meat. Animals eat meat. It is a cycle of life. Are we to assume PETA will next stop the cougars from killing their prey in Africa? No - it is absurd to think so. Death is not pretty but it is life. We all live...we all die. And we can minimize suffering as much as possible.I do enjoy veggie cooking and vegan chocolate chip cookies - my favorites - are at the Whole Foods Market. What I do, however, is balance with what is environmentally friendlier and more humane than other options out there.
A few things about PETA that I don't like:
(1) PETA doesn't even want us to own our dogs and cats. Sorry PETA - not following that logic.
(2) PETA wants to ban pit bulls - sorry - not banning a breed for a few bad people out there.
(3) The PETA bus drives up to pick up pets and they have been caught killing them in the vans and not finding them homes. Instead of spending millions on Pam Anderson ads....do some good for the dogs and cats instead of killing them.So, although PETA makes some very good points, they are not balanced themselves and should really reflect on what they support and don't. You can't have it both ways - don't kill and then kill and call it "humane."
Pet Food TalesOn Animal-rights group makes the stupid claim that enviros must be vegetarians posted 2 years, 2 months ago 208 Responses