Comments Jianguo Xu has made

  • All we need is a long cycle life battery

    Gar, You quote of electric vehicles need 200 miles or range is probably right but irrelevent. I for one expect PHEV to come into being first. We are talking about 20-60 miles of electric range. Say for the sake of discussion, 60 miles of range for the PHEV of our discussion. You are right that the current NiMH battery cannot last tens of thousands of cycles. But what if someone can extend that life to what is needed. What if I tell you that I know someone who I believe has a way of doing it, and that such a battery is going to be cheaper than NiMH battery, at least no more expensive?

    Assume at mass production the battery cost can be $400/kWH (mass production cost of $250/kWH has been quoted by EPRI for NiMH batteries for EV applications), and we need 20 kWH of capacity. This gives a battery cost of $8,000 per car. At $3/gal fuel cost, this is competitive. Plus, if you use the vehicle for V2G applications, you will have give some credit to the vehicles.

    My point is we are not far - all we need is to make the battery long lasting enough. And that may be within our grasp. All what it takes is time and money for the development of the technology.

    My understanding is this is a forum for alternative energy solutions. Most of what we are talking about are not yet economical. Therefore, R & D money is needed in areas that are promising. We need to identify them. Besides, the current pricing structure does not price in the environmenal impact of eneryg use. If in future  pricing of energy will correctly reflect the true life time cost that includes the environmental and health impact of fuel use, then we will see the economic numbers for these alternative energy solutions much better looking. On It's not the key to making renewables work posted 2 years, 11 months ago 23 Responses

  • need for long life batteries

    Gar, you are right in pointing out the need for long cycle life batteries. Excellent point.

    Your conclusion, however, is based on the current NiMH battery. Progresses are being made in this direction. As Scatter pointed out, Altainano disclosed that their batteries can last over 15,000 cycles. I am not going to judge Altairnano's credibility. Nor am I going to say that their battery is good enough for PHEV applications. My point is: your point is a very good one on the need for a long cycle life battery. However, we cannot judge future based on the current technology, assuming we will not make the necessary progress.On It's not the key to making renewables work posted 2 years, 11 months ago 23 Responses

  • Solar thermal for heating and cooling

    While electricity generation from concentrated solar thermal or multijunction PV may play an important role in the future, another important area that is already commercial is solar thermal heating, especially for heating water.

    Here is why it makes sense: assume concentrated solar thermal or PV has a net efficiency of 33.3%, including the transmission losses (we are not there yet, but may be close). Assume for heating or cooling in buildings and homes, we have a coefficiency of performance (COP) of 3. We get a "round trip" efficiency of 1. More importantly, the capital cost is very high.

    The current simple solar water heaters of course do not have an efficiency of greater than 100%. However, if a thermally activated heat pump with an COP of, say, 2.0 for space heating and 1.3 for air conditioning, is used, then the overall COP can be greater than 1, beating the more expensive version.

    Of course, there are other sources of energy we should use in solving space heating/air conditioning energy source issue. Geothermal simply stands out among them. Combining geothermal energy with solar thermal heat pump is a great way of greatly reducing energy consumption in HVAC area. My understanding is that space heating and cooling consumes close to 1/3 of the total energy  consumption of the society. Therefore, we are not talking about a small issue - it is almost as important as that of transportation.On It's cheaper than photovoltaic posted 2 years, 12 months ago 34 Responses

  • PHEV and EV for storing electricity

    When plug-in HEV with 60 miles of electric range and electric vehicles become widespread, at least a significant portion of the capacities of their batteries can be used for storing electricity produced from solar (and wind) energy, and/or used as the means for load leveling of the electrical grid. You are talking about up to 20 kWh of storage by cars alone for each car when all the vehicles have 60 miles of EV range. If there will be 100 million PHEV/EV in this country, the storage capacity can be as high as 20 x 100 = 2 billion kWh/day.

    For wind energy storage, the battery may be able to charge and discharge a few times a day as a means of load leveling.

    I guess 2 billion kWh/day is likely enough to make up the shortage in nights in this country - remember we will always be able to generate a significant portion of the electricity during nights from wind, hydropower, nuclear, and other types of power plants.

    The key is to develop rechargeable batteries with very long cycle life and a reasonable cost, I believe. On Efficiency is the key posted 3 years ago 31 Responses

  • Multijunction PV - solar concentrator

    Multijunction PV can reach efficiencies of over 30%. As a matter of fact, some of them already approach 40%. It is likely that 50-60% can be reached sometime in future. These devices can be used in conjunction with solar concentrators which can greatly reduce the cost of the PV cells. The PV cells are typically 1 cm x 1 cm in size. Therefore, the concentrator can be 30 cm x 30 cm each for a 900 sun concentrator. This makes the concentrators much simpler to build than those used in solar thermal plants.

    Currently Boeing and Emcore are the leading companies in producing multijunction PV's.On It's cheaper than photovoltaic posted 3 years ago 34 Responses

  • Rechargeable batteries for vehicles

    It is well known that the specific energy of a rechargeable battery is far below that of gasoline. Many people consider this the major drawback that prevents rechargeable batteries from solving the transportation fuel problem.

    According to the 2002 EPRI technical report titled "Comparing the benefits and impacts of hybrid electric vehicle options for compact sedan and sport utility vehicles", a compact plug-in hybrid vehicle with 60 miles of pure electric range (HEV60) needs a battery with 15.5 kWh of battery. With NiMH batteries the mass of the batteries will be about 218 kg (at 71.1 WH/kg), and the total mass is 259 kg including the pack tray, pack hardware, and thermal management system. Additionally, there will be close to 50 kg of additional electrical traction system mass. This is partly compensated with the about 80 kg reduction in engine system, 40 kg reduction in transmission system, among the others. The net result is that the mass of the compact car is increased by 172 kg from 1209 kg of the conventional vehicle to 1381 kg of the HEV60. That is equivalent to the mass of two adults. What it means is, at 71 WH/kg, the specific energy of the NiMH battery is reasonably high for making a HEV60 realistic. That explains why safety, cost, and life of the automotive battery are the key issues for the automotive batteries today.

    Note if HEV60 becomes dominant, we can reduce the consumption of liquid fuel by about 85%. That means if the known oil deposits in the world are enough to run the vehicles of the world for 35-50 years with the conventional cars, they will be enough to run HEV60's for 230-330 years at the current rate of car mileage, or perhaps close to 150 years considering that more car mileage will likely be added as economy of the world grows. This does not include the potentials of obtaining liquid fuel from other sources, such as that from natural gas, coal, tar sands, oil shale, as well as bio-diesel. Therefore, the rechargeable battery technology of today should be enough to solve the transportation fuel problem of the world for the foreseeable future, as long as the battery can run the life of the vehicle without an increase in the cost of the battery per WH.

    After PHEV becomes dominant, it is possible to install charging rails, or cables, or other means of passing electrical energy to vehicles from the grid along the major highways, such that the cars running on these highways can charge their batteries at the same time they draw the juice for running the vehicles from the grid. The cost of installing such a charging infrastructure is likely to be relatively small. For example, for the Lehigh valley of Eastern Pennsylvania, the cost of installing charging rails on expressway sections of I-78, I-476, US 22, Routes 33, 309, 378, 222, 145, and 611, in the 25 mile radius of Allentown, Pennsylvania,is likely to cost significantly less than that of constructing the Rte 222 bypass (an ongoing project) from the intersection with I-78 and Breinigsville, and Rte 33 extension from US 22 to I-78 (finished a few years ago). In return, the commuter and other cars and trucks will be able to eliminate the internal combustion engine, the fuel tank, the catalytic converter, the muffler, the radiator and other parts of the engine cooling system, the fuel pump and other parts of the fuel system, and the hassles associated with filling fuel and engine maintenance, including oil change and air filter change. What is needed is the wide use of vehicles with enough energy storage. A battery with 60 miles of energy storage is likely to be enough for most parts of this country, and perhaps most parts of the world, once the expressways are fitted with the charging rails or cables mentioned above. Therefore, the transition from plug-in HEV to pure electric vehicle may take place automatically once PHEV becomes dominant.

    Or maybe it is not really necessary to wait for all the vehicles to become PHEVs before construction of such charging rails will take place?

    Will there be other power trains that may replace battery electric in the future - in 100 years, 150 years? Possibly, but it is not of my concern. After all, not many people had expected the wide use of cell phones, flat panel displays, personal computers, internet, color TVs and air transportation 100 years ago. Along the same vein, nobody can rule out the potential that miniaturized fusion reactors or some unknown type of energy conversion and storage devices may run vehicles 150 years from now. However, one thing seems to be certain: whatever that will cause the replacement of battery electric cars should not be the exhaustion of liquid hydrocarbon fuels.

    Note while I explained how rechargeable battery can solve the transportation fuel problem, I by no means mean that rechargeable battery is the only solution to the problem. As a matter of fact, I believe that before the cost of rechargeable battery is low enough, and/or the battery life is long enough, and/or the society evaluates the environmental damage due to vehicle emissions highly enough, plug-in hybrid cars may not take off, while other types of fuel efficient power trains may enter and even dominate the car engine market in the near future. Such solutions may include (clean) diesel engine, lean burn engines such as that using the Plasmatron technology under development at MIT, Miller cycle engine if a low cost supercharger can be developed, and perhaps in combination with such mechanical energy storage means as compressed air, flywheel etc.  
    On How to transform personal transportation with existing tools posted 3 years ago 29 Responses